posted September 18, 2016 12:33 PM            

The other person's Venus (in Gemini) squares my Moon (in Virgo) and the other person's Mercury (in Gemini) squares my Moon (in Virgo). I have Sun in Gemini. The other person has "a lot" of Virgo in their chart (Mars, Uranus, Pluto / Ceres, Juno, Vesta).

posted September 18, 2016 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
I have Venus square Moon and Mercury square Moon with someone. How would aspects like that play out if they are in signs that I/the other person are familiar with/like, or that heavily influences or natal charts?

The other person's Venus (in Gemini) squares my Moon (in Virgo) and the other person's Mercury (in Gemini) squares my Moon (in Virgo). I have Sun in Gemini. The other person has "a lot" of Virgo in their chart (Mars, Uranus, Pluto / Ceres, Juno, Vesta).

Would squares like that be easier to deal with if they're in signs whose energy you are comfortable with? What are your experiences?

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posted September 18, 2016 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

yes this is my experience too. although the only way it can really work in the long run is that the two have complementary respective aspects between male/female planetary bodies. for instance, if you are female and have moon square sun, they must have venus square mars. if you have sun square pluto, they must have venus square pluto. (oppositions and conjunctions can work too).

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Thank you, girlwiththerainysoul! Do you mean in the natal chart? Unfortunately I don't think we have that. In what way would it change the relationship dynamic?

posted September 19, 2016 12:44 AM            

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Do you mean in the natal chart? Unfortunately I don't think we have that. In what way would it change the relationship dynamic?
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yes, they must each have a natal aspect which complements a specific aspect of the other.

posted September 19, 2016 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:

I was thinking about the Venus square Moon aspect, some people say it's really bad while other's say it isn't a bad aspect per se, that it speaks for some sort of external obstacle. What are your opinions on Venus square Moon?

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well, I have natal venus square moon too! so I may be biased, but the description above fits me. I, as a person who is living this aspect, don't think of it as something horrible, while if someone who doesn't have it, hears about how this aspect plays out in daily life, they will most likely be terrified and thankful that they don't have it!

I hold this aspect responsible for my tough relationships with women in general, specifically my own mother.

I also don't want children of my own, and this was one of the main reasons my relationships with two men I loved very much and was engaged with one and nearly engaged with the other, ended with lots of hurt feelings.

I have problem with the whole idea of "fake" femininity too. having to wear make up or high heels, or having to make your voice sound sweet, to appear feminine and attract male's attention in this way. I remember when I was 12-13 and was about to become a "young lady!", my mother begging me to wear make up and behave more ladylike! this continued until I was 19! and she cried for this a few times too and told me that I was behaving like this to punish her or torture her or something like that! and her reasoning was that she didn't want me to be myself, because she didn't want people to talk behind my back and say how did a mother like that, raise a daughter like that!

I was also born via c-section and I don't really have a close relationship with my mother. when I was a baby, I apparently refused to drink her breast milk, and when I was young girl, still under her control, she would always force me to eat, but later I when I grew up, I made my migraine an excuse to cook my own meals. it's not that her cooking is bad, I just have a weird feeling eating what she cooks.
I also don't look anything like her, and am more like my dad's sister. I remember her once complaining that when I was a baby, people always wondered how she could be my mother, and that they assumed she was my nanny!

my two best friends are this tomboyish, butch type of girls who share the same idea with me about the definition of femininity (one has sun conjunct moon, the other has venus square mars), I have been best friends with one of them for 13 years, and the other for 7 years. my parents never approved of them for this very reason. I had another bestie at high school who was again this tomboyish girl, and we loved each other so much, but one day when I had invited her over, my mother told her something aweful and she left our house and refused to talk to me. she soon moved to another school too. after almost 10 years, I still miss her badly and she still refuses to reconnect. and I think I will always know my mother responsible for this.

honestly I don't know whether this aspect is harder to have if you are a man or a woman. I have two cousins who are brothers and they both have this. the older brother, married this famously slutty girl, without his parents' approval, at the age 21. his two sisters always complain that this girl has attempted many times to seduce their husbands! after almost 12 years of marriage, they don't have a child and my cousin has apparently said to my aunt that his wife is unable to become pregnant (something wrong with her uterus) but that he very much prefers this, because "the sight of pregnant women has always disgusted him!". his wife is a make-up addict too but he can do nothing to change it. but I have heard him complain that she spends too much time getting ready, or him making fun of her "feminine" dress or her high heels!

the younger brother, is very attractive like his brother. he is 27 now, and I alone know a few girls who have wanted to force themselves upon him, but he has only ever had one girlfriend, with whom he got engaged, but soon broke it off because she was "emotionally weak"!

posted September 19, 2016 03:37 PM            

I was confused seeing these aspects (Venus square Moon and Mercury square Moon) in our synastry. Part of why I’m attracted to him is the way he expresses himself. I love his voice, his mind and his aesthetic taste, and I’ve never felt such an immediate, instinctive ”simpatico” with someone. So these two are rather surprising. But we don’t know each other well enough to really evaluate how these aspects would come into play.

I have this dichotomy in my natal chart, since I’m Gemini Sun/Virgo Moon, and the way I communicate and love is heavily influenced by my Sun/Moon sign, why I don’t know why his Venus/Mercury in Gemini would be at all bothersome to me. I understand the Gemini way of going about things. He, as well, is very much Virgo in his approach. So I’m highly uncertain how these squares would affect us. But maybe it’s not only about the signs, but the squares in themselves.

I’m still torn on how to interpret the Venus square Moon though. Based on your description of the Venus/Moon square in the natal chart it doesn’t sound pleasant at all. Though, I wonder what kind of energy it would cause in a relationship? I found some quotes on Lindaland where people said it’s a powerful aspect, while others, as said, don't like the aspect at all.

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"I love hard moon-venus aspects, to me its just as powerful as moon-mars aspects just in a different way. I feel lot of loyalty and commitment from it."

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"The square or opposition is best imo! sooo loving”

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"I have read the hard aspects are not helpful in a relationship. However what you are saying rings true to me! We have tons of passion and positive emotions and romance. There are mutually intense feelings of protection we also feel for each other and what we bring out in each other.”

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posted September 21, 2016 02:40 PM            

the aspects in a person's natal chart mostly shows the situations they were born in (in my case, my mother having to sacrifice her job for me, or in my cousins' case, my aunt admitting to never have kissed her children or grandchildren, because she's just that type of person, and plus, having given birth to one of them in her 40s and having a rather large age difference with him). in a natal chart, the person can control their aspects a little or totally (depending on their age, and/or how much their soul has grown), so when you see a venus/mars square or venus/moon square in a person's chart, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are horrible people. the majority of them get better with age as they learn how to learn from and deal with their squares.

but the aspects that exist in a composite or synastry can NEVER be changed. but they also mean totally different things.

squares in synastry and composite, means an ever-present challenge that keeps the relationship interesting and leads to constant learning from one another. that is why the two stay loyal to one another. REALLY great square aspects in a composite include moon square pluto, and venus square mars.

oppositions in synastry and more importantly the composite, denote extreme attractions and possible obstacles.

posted September 21, 2016 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by thingsgoneby:
"I love hard moon-venus aspects, to me its just as powerful as moon-mars aspects just in a different way. I feel lot of loyalty and commitment from it."

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lol! is there a chance they were talking about the composite and synastry? because yeah, I have this aspect with synastry with 3 very good friends:

1. a female friend I met at the age 12 and we are best friends for 13 years now. my venus squares her moon.

2. my other best female friend, I met her at the age 18 and we are besties for 7 years now. her venus squares my moon.

3. a very close male friend of 6 years. again his venus squares my moon.

4. with my "play ground boyfriend" of more than 20 years, and we are very close friends today, his mars squares her my moon, and I feel very devoted to him (not sure it is anything romantic), not sure he feels the same way though!

5. I have had 2 experiences with friends' moons opposite my venus too, but those relationships never lasted as much as I wanted them too. I think that aspect is harder on the moon person. I have it with my male bestie and with my childhood male friend though (they have conjunct moons, but one's venus and the other's mars also squares my moon, and that can be why we have lasted...I also briefly dated 2 men who have their mars opposite to my moon..I felt extremely attarcted to them but somehow deep down never felt secure and cared for

6. with an ex bf, I have my mars opposite his moon, I can say that he has been very loyal even though we no longer date. but we are very good friends and I believe we will stay so.

7. with my ex fiance, we had a double whammy moon/mars square. it was a really good aspect in our synastry. created lots of lasting attraction for 3 years and we felt extremely devoted and loyal to each other, although we had hard aspects (my neptune square his moon, his mars conjunct my venus, my chiron square his moon, my nessus opposite his moon, his nessus conjunct my AC, his saturn opppsite my sun, and more importantly incompatible moons, his in aries and mine in pisces) which finally led to our breakup