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SunAscendant
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posted September 29, 2016 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal Venus is EXACTLY conjunct a guy's 9th harmonic Venus/Juno conjunction. The 9th harmonic apparently is important because it points to the type of person you'll likely choose as a marriage partner.

My mom's 9th harmonic Ascendant conjuncts my dad's natal sun!

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strawberryaa
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posted September 30, 2016 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for strawberryaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to find 9th harmonic venus? Never heard of it

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posted September 30, 2016 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pretty cool hey!

My 9H mars/juno is conjunct soulmates 9H venus/eros/psyche, moons are also in the same sign. My 9H sun is conjunct his 9H mars and same sign as ASC and natal sun/venus. Our 9H mercuries are conjunct.
His 9H NN/IC conjuncts my Natal ASC. My 9H ASC conjuncts his Natal mars. Other cool stuff happening but that's the crux

On astro, select Harmonic Chart under drop down menu where it says 'Please select a chart type' and then where it says 'Start date for charts marked with *:' place a 9 in the box next to it.

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posted September 30, 2016 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my n Saturn conjuncts my guys 9H Sun, Vertex Moon conjunction. And his 9h Saturn conjuncts my 9H Sun.


So far that does not look so romantic, does it?

but my 9H mars conjuncts his natal Sun, his 9H Pluto conjuncts my sun/jupiter mp, and his 9h ASC conjuncts my natal SN.

And our 9H moons are conjunct, so that's good! Our moons don't talk to each other in traditional synastry, so maybe this helps us somewhat.

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posted September 30, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/004290.html

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posted September 30, 2016 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Koniucha
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posted September 30, 2016 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Koniucha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There sure are a lot of different charts

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EmGem
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posted September 30, 2016 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mereiposa:
my n Saturn conjuncts my guys 9H Sun, Vertex Moon conjunction. And his 9h Saturn conjuncts my 9H Sun.


So far that does not look so romantic, does it?

but my 9H mars conjuncts his natal Sun, his 9H Pluto conjuncts my sun/jupiter mp, and his 9h ASC conjuncts my natal SN.

And our 9H moons are conjunct, so that's good! Our moons don't talk to each other in traditional synastry, so maybe this helps us somewhat.


Lots of glue with that Saturn Dw mereiposa! And sun/mars is def good for sexual attraction. I have this in tropical synastry. Lots of chemistry. Your NN on his DSC 👍 Moons conjunct is beautiful! So both your souls are meant to move towards that 💖

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posted October 01, 2016 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious.

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my chart:

his name: 4°36 Taurus
my name: 2°50 Gemini
Eros: 8°55 Cap
Psyche:6°18 Taurus
Amor: 19°12 Aries
Valentine 13°19 Cap

his chart:

his name: 3°54 Aries
my name: 22°29 Virgo
Eros: 15°07 Virgo
Psyche:16°58 Taurus
Amor: 21°31 Pisces
Valentine 26°22 Sag


well, my name in my 9th harmonic chart is in partile conjunction with the ASC - couldn`t get any clearer about identity! lol
Also in the 9th harmonic chart this comes up with an orb of only 21 minutes, which means in the natal chart my name is in a 9th harmonic aspect with ASC by only about 3 minutes of orb (the orb of conjunctions in the 9th harmonic chart has to be divided by 9, to arrive at the orb that the actual aspect in the natal chart makes, which also means whenever you see a wide conjunction of 9 degrees in a 9th harmonic chart, you are really dealing with a natal 9th harmonic aspect - trine, novile, binovile or conjunction- within only one degree of orb, natally!)

Oppositions in the 9th harmonic chart, really are 18th harmonic aspects in the natal chart, and so on, if any other aspect but the conjunction from 9th harmoninc to 9th harmonic we are dealing of course with minor aspects and higher harmonics.

opposition: 18th harmonic (multiples of 20°)
trine: 27th harmonic
square: 36th harmonic
and so on.


I think unless being a harmonic astrologer only very rarely these are being used, though I think I remember Cochrane pointing out the 36th harmonic to be of importance especially, but then again he IS a harmonic astrologer.


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yungang_grotto
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posted October 01, 2016 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, fascinating that you have the 9th harmonic Venus-Venus opposition... We have that too.

And of course you're upping the ante, bringing up.36th harmonic , now you've got me going, and we have the conjunction of Venus in.that chart, and node-Venus and node-Sun conjunctions (yet.. argh.. trying to convince myself this isn't "the one" after all)-I wonder what the significance of the 36th harmonic is, according to the harmonic astrologer? I certainly am not a harmonic astrologer, although I'm interested. I know 36 would be the triple trine, 3x the 9th, so extra potent... I've always had a thing for multiples of 3, and 9 especially...

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It's interesting that so many of you in this thread have noted correlations between the 9th harmonic and the radix/natal chart of your partners, or vice versa. I've also noticed significant overlays from 9th harmonic-natal. Have been wanting to ask folks about their observations and here is the thread! So great...

I have been able to find one reference on the net to the validity of comparing the Rasi (natal) and Navamsa (9th harmonic) to determine compatibility.. so I know there's some validity, and in practice it seems to pan out somewhat...

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posted October 01, 2016 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well no harmonic astrologer would compare the 9th to the natal - it is apples and oranges.
9th harmonic aspects within the harmonic charts are just an elaboration of minor aspects that are present in the natal and the harmonic chart is just a way to make it easier to see, however the signs are purely symbolical/ coincidental.

from a harmonic astrology perspective


from a Vedic perspective they do compare 9th to natal, and I also noticed certian overlays, be it coincidence or not.

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mereiposa
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posted October 01, 2016 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I know you are not supposed to compare 9th to natal, but it is interesting.

With my ex husband, his H9 sun trines my natal Venus. His H9 Pluto on my natal sun, his H9 Juno on my natal sun/moon midpoint. We don't have strong 9th harmonic connections really otherwise... so I feel like there is something there.

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posted October 01, 2016 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Vedic astrologers do the comparision.

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posted October 01, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about trines? My ex-husbands H9 Venus trines my H9 Venus. I would think that is important, given that Moon, Venus, and Juno are significant.


I am looking at my family members and their spouses.

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posted October 01, 2016 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know what is weird? In the charts I have looked at (so friends and family) four have their sun at 9 Cap, which trines my natal Venus.

But looking at the charts in my friends and family records, they all share conjunctions or trines to my natal chart at repetitive signs and degrees.

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posted October 01, 2016 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
Lots of glue with that Saturn Dw mereiposa! And sun/mars is def good for sexual attraction. I have this in tropical synastry. Lots of chemistry. Your NN on his DSC 👍 Moons conjunct is beautiful! So both your souls are meant to move towards that 💖


Boo, read it wrong. Our moons are not conjunct, but my H9 Sun is opposite his H9 Moon. His H9 moon is within 8 degrees of my natal Venus though, and my H9 AC, and it is conjunct H9 MC. No idea what any of this means, though!

Just as well, I am trying to step away from him. I think he's not my one, but man, it's hard to walk away.

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posted October 01, 2016 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting

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posted October 01, 2016 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious.

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Yes it does.

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posted October 01, 2016 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Unfortunately astro.com does not allow for 9th synastry, so I had to do it in Solar fire, which most here might be unaccustomed to read; however I think the overlays in the 9th harmonic chart are pretty obvious.

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posted October 02, 2016 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SunAscendant,

sorry, your picture is so large I can`t see anything.


Have you found a way to display the 9th harmonic charts of both person in a synastry wheel on astro.com?

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posted October 02, 2016 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Does the 9th Harmonic synastry repeats some of the tropical synastry, yes? Because I see that the DW tropical Sun- Venus opposition we have in the synastry repeats again in the 9th harmonic.



If the opposition has very close orbs, then it will stay intact through most harmonic charts.


If both of you have a Sun-Moon in the 9th harmonic that means that there is a 9th harmonic aspect in each natal between Sun and Moon (conjunction, opposition, trine, novile - 40°- or binovile 80°)

And it should come up in the 9th harmonic composite as well.

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posted October 02, 2016 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yun,

I was wrong, he was talking about the 30th harmonic as so important.

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 02, 2016 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah.

(scurrying off)

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yungang_grotto
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posted October 02, 2016 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well... 9th harmonic composites sure are fun.

In our 9h composite, the Sun is conjunct White Moon Selena.. and you know how I loooove White Moon Selena...

(so much).

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posted October 02, 2016 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Sun-Sun opposition and Juno-Juno conjunction stand out, as well at the Node conjunction and a few other things.

Can we count trines? I kind of don't think so? But it's fun to read these charts just like normal, and the Venus Venus trine is nice.

Saturn opposite Moon... yeah... that makes sense... poor guy.

But Moon sextile Moon

anyway...

Can't help noticing the way things in this chart correspond to our draconic and natal charts too... his Venus here is conjunct his draconic Sun (and my draconic Moon by 5 degrees). And his 30th harmonic Sun here is conjunct his draconic Moon, our draconic composite Sun-Venus-Mercury stellium, and my draconic Sun/Moon midpoint. So that's cool.

Hey wait.... why didn't I include the Sun/Moon midpoint here? oh well...

It maybe goes without saying but I my VenusSelenaVertex conjunction here.

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