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Topic: When Composite Aspects Gives You Headaches
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comica23
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posted May 05, 2009 07:28 PM
  
Great composite aspects, bad composite aspects.. While the great ones feels great, the bad ones can drive us crazy sometimes.. Well, in my case, I have a nice composite, yet a few bad aspects would give me headaches from time to time, specially the Moon square Neptune one. >_<;So guys, what are your thoughts/experiences about good/bad aspects in composites?? And how do you deal with the bad ones?? IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted May 05, 2009 07:57 PM
The worst I've experienced was an unaspected Sun in the Composite. The relationship had no real identity.Moon square Uranus is annoying. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted May 05, 2009 08:01 PM
This one is hands down Venus square Uranus, because the relationship has no real stability to it..its there today gone tomorrow type of situation. Or too many planets in the 6th house, it just doesn't feel right.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 05, 2009 08:38 PM
Curious about the 6th house composite, why is it so bad? What if the whole composite has wonderful and lovely aspects otherwise?
For me, it's been composite Saturn square Mars and Venus. Both together were like hell. Slows everything down to a grinding halt.
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posted May 05, 2009 08:41 PM
Venus aspecting Saturn and Capricorn and Aquarius anywhere..lol
Moon square Saturn 
Moon in aquarius is very uncomfortable for me and too uncomfortable for me to deal with on a day to day basis. I remember when I had this in a composite with someone, the weirdest sh-t happened to us during 1 week(weird road trip). I never wanted to hang out again.(aquarius moon and rising in the composite).Neptune/pisces just causes a lot of lies and confusion about truth. I have pisces rising in a composite with someone, and feel like they lie about everything. Deception seems the focus. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted May 05, 2009 09:18 PM
Auch it seems like negative aspects to outer planets are harder to deal with.. Uranus can bring instability, while Neptune can bring confusions/deceptions.Somehow, Saturn seems to represent the man while Moon seems to represent the woman, so any aspect between these two seems meaningful. quote:
Curious about the 6th house composite, why is it so bad? What if the whole composite has wonderful and lovely aspects otherwise?
Hmm it seems that the 6th house can give a feeling of "being at service of" (bigger sense of duty and responsibility to work things). But well, in my case, I have Saturn and Pluto there, with Saturn on the DC. It seems that this position means hesitation towards commitment (being almost at the 7th house yet not in the 7th house). But well, there are other nice aspects, so it never seemed to be a problem.IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 05, 2009 10:13 PM
"It seems that this position means hesitation towards commitment (being almost at the 7th house yet not in the 7th house)."You know, I think that's probably the most articulate description of 6th house composite I've ever read. Nicely done. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted May 05, 2009 10:43 PM
Comica your description of it is spot on...MVM if there was mabe only one planet in 6th house an the rest were in more romantic houses, I would be more tolerant and be willing to work with it. But when there are three or more planets there(especially Sun, Venus, or Moon)then I feel like I always have something to prove in the relationship. I personally find it frustrating. It seems more out of duty than love, an thats not my cup of tea  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 05, 2009 11:29 PM
I think if two people have 6th house stelliums it's rather hard to avoid having one in a 6th house composite LOL.
Both people are caretakers to an extent, which can be a lovely thing.
Comica's description feels so right to me because I have this with someone now (and we both have 6th house stelliums) - Sun, Venus, Mercury in the 6th and going into the 7th there's Pluto and Uranus. The composite itself without the house thing is lovely - Sun conjunct Venus, Venus conjunct Pluto, Moon conjunct Mars (well, I like that aspect anyway lol), Pluto conjunct Sun and Dsc, Jupiter in nice aspects, and only smooth aspects from Saturn, and no really funny Uranus or Neptune stuff.
It looks great on paper and feels good too.
But the hesitation of it being in this ALMOST state as Comica says is dead-on. It's like something feels like it's missing, that is true.
So it just makes total sense to me.....interesting. But I think in general 6th house composite can be healing. The general association with Virgo/6th house/service is soooooo freakin' boring lol. I feel there's more to it. There's a selflessness and a sense of healing to the 6th house, and I know for me and him this has been a very healing, regenerative relationship especially after both our divorces. I just don't see it 'going' anywhere past that point, because the thing feels like it's serving a very specific purpose. At any rate, it sure is interesting. As for Saturn stuff, I had a Grand Cross with someone in composite, complete with the Saturnine madness. The thing was so deep and connected and yet never went anywhere but stayed in a deadlock. I think in romantic relationships if you're not used to those energies or if your own chart is not friendly to them, then certain restraining aspects can be particularly hard to deal with.
Even the same can be said of smooth aspects if you have a challenging natal chart.
PS - amowls talked about Sun with no aspects, and I have to agree that peregrine planets do also set off a red flag for me in composites.
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blue moon
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posted May 06, 2009 02:27 AM
I'd go for the word tense rather than bad. Tense is where we get to work through learning lessons and end up dynamic. I'm thinking more here natal and synastry. I don't go in for composites much. I couldn't tell you what was on mine without looking and I have been with him for 16 years. IP: Logged |
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posted May 06, 2009 02:32 AM
If two people are not used to the 6th house, 6th house stelliums in Composites are effing awful. It feels like the relationship is totally one sided.The unaspected Sun I mentioned was in the 5th house, most of the other planets were in the 6th in the Composite I experienced. Including Venus conjunct Neptune. Talk about not knowing where you stood ever. With that guy, whenever we said goodbye to each other for the day I never knew if I was ever going to see him again. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted May 06, 2009 09:17 AM
Wow the 6th house placement seems to be so common here. O.o But by the way, what was the sign in which those 6th house planets where? The signs in which the planets are in a composite can also give some hints about how the energies are.IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted May 06, 2009 09:24 AM
By the way, anyone here have experienced Saturn or Pluto square Sun?? How does it manifest??IP: Logged |
Dancing Maenad
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posted October 05, 2016 09:17 PM
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yungang_grotto
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posted October 05, 2016 10:53 PM
Sigh... I really appreciated reading this. I have a 6th house composite, too. Well, Venus in Leo in the 6th, opposite a 12th house stellium. And then in Davison it becomes a 6th house stellium of Sun, Mercury, and Venus.Always almost, always, not quite. In taoism that's ideal; at the point of completion, things begin to decay... so the long lasting things are those which are not yet finished... Still, it's a hard thing... it's nice to feel like a relationship has "arrived"... but I sense that my partner and I are meant to actually be of service to the world, and that the,state of tension and iincompleteness in our relationship is certainly destined... I think to be of service, one needs to be aware that one's work is never done... He does have a natal 6th house stellium, and I have south node, part of fortune, and juno in Virgo... Virgo is on his 5th house cusp, and we both understand the. importance of humility and true service very well... The feeling of self erasure and the lopsidedness I do wonder about... it is certainly present. It is like in the 6th we are just about at that point where we are willing to give our separate self up, but we are exercising that self to it's maximum, to tie up all loose ends and squeeze out all the juice of our inner experience in service to the other first, or for our own dharma, or something... and THEN we can enter into a contract, or begin to work it out... first our affairs must be in order. Our relationship definitely has the tone of getting affairs in order, which in our case could be a long term task, because we both have a lot of work to do on earth, in service of the earth itself etc... IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 08, 2016 12:06 PM
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Faith
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posted October 08, 2016 05:46 PM
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thingsgoneby
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posted October 08, 2016 09:32 PM
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- the sun opposite or square chiron (* very common in romantic or "true love" relationships which often end in tragedy)
Is this true for synastry as well? May I ask in what way it plays out? In which way do these "true love" relationships end in tragedy?  IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 09, 2016 01:52 AM
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thegrinning_cat
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posted October 09, 2016 05:46 AM
Thank you for this great insight!What if Venus comes into the Chiron/Sun Constellation? Sun conjunct Uranus and Venus opposite Chiron. How would you interpret this? IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 09, 2016 06:35 AM
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thegrinning_cat
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posted October 09, 2016 08:15 AM
Thank you, girlwiththerainysoul! Sorry! Yes this is a composite constellation of a couple I know...they are both complaining about intimacy issues and a tension between closeness and distance.
He cheated her and flees into work. She does a lot passive aggressive stuff and disrespects his success and projects, because she is unhappy with her failed career. (Which has to do with her becoming pregnant and then depressed) Unfortunately I don't know her birth time.
I don't get, why they stay together. He seems to be extremely dependent on her, although he also suffers from the relationship.
They both treat each other badly - so I was wondering if the Chiron constellation would cause this  IP: Logged |
thingsgoneby
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posted October 09, 2016 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
the syanstry is different. most people can control their own natal aspects to a good degree if they choose to, so a person's sun squaring your chiron only means that each "unintentionally" and only by their presence alone, points out the other person's deepest flaws and insecurities. No, each partner will mostly likely not talk about it and will deal with their pain privately. It sure feels painful, but if there are other strong and nice aspects in synastry, this one can become much easier to be dealt with and may actually prove productive.
Thank you, you always give the best answers! <3 IP: Logged |
fireandice
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posted October 09, 2016 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
[B]the "worst" aspects in a composite in my opinion are:
- the sun opposite or square chiron (* very common in romantic or "true love" relationships which often end in tragedy)
B]
What about the sun conjunct chiron? Or even more precise - chiron conjunct a composite stellium of sun, mars, venus and mercury? Btw, a big thank you to all you experts and knowledgable people in Composites and Synastry for sharing your knowlegde and time so generously! I've been reading your analyses for years. IP: Logged |
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