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Faith
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posted October 06, 2016 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 06, 2016 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just about to say - looks wonderfuuuullll to me with that Sun-Venus-Moon-Jupiter thing........and then I saw Saturn

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posted October 06, 2016 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha yeah...a slight problem.

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posted October 06, 2016 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody's personal planet close up the grand cross?

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posted October 06, 2016 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi yungang, thanks for looking.

No, no planets there.

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posted October 06, 2016 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 06, 2016 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
phew looks very very intense with the Sun-Venus opposed to Moon, definitely strong emotional draw, but maybe also a bit see-sawing,
With Uranus on the Mercury/Venus-mp possibly electric communications (and flirt?).

But then there is also the square to Saturn, which could go either way, provide glue, or keeping things stuck and not allowing growth and stifling the good feelings even.

And with Chiron conjunct Moon, opposing Sun-Venus, there definitely is a vibration of the "wounded healer" there. maybe you both will be confonted with areas of vulnerability and where you might feel wounded or raw and easily hurt. Which could lead to a lot of healing, if you can endure the quiet intensity of this and the honesty Chiron demands to really look at what is going on on an emotional level between you.

If either of you cannot address these feelings or be that honest with yourselves and each other, this might lead to a lot of hurt feelings I fear.

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posted October 06, 2016 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh and it is worse than a fatal attraction chart (though BML is interestingly placed I admit) - it is aiming at a core level, maybe even the soul of you both.


Who would be hit strongest, could be seen from conjunction to the composite placements, esp. the Tsquare.


Oh and I can lend you my Draco Pluto on 28 Cap if you need something for the pattern completion. (would maybe take a bit pressure off this poor Saturn, which is just so fearful of all this emotional attraction and electric affections and stimulating thoughts and soul-ful sensitivity and vulnerability with each other)


Is this the "other one"?

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posted October 06, 2016 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Readytochill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How did those Saturn squares manifest, Faith? Don't want to make this about myself but I have that and a grand cross with a Cap that I'm on and off with. Hm, I'm curious who this person was to you hehe

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Does anybody's personal planet close up the grand cross?

What's the purpose or what happens when someone's personal planets close up a Composite grand cross?

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posted October 06, 2016 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm by no means an expert or even a dilatant on composites. What does the synastry show on attraction?

I do know that the hard aspects are very attractive in their own right. They challenge us to work out the kinks in our own souls or in each other's. Venus Saturn square can be handled with careful watering and attention. Or to put it another way, you have to keep putting work into love (the very definition of Saturn and Venus). Saturn moon and Saturn Chiron, I know from the opposition and the conjunction respectively. Lots of unintended bruises there but also Saturn wants to be the protector and the moon loves it. But I'm not sure the square is as forgiving.

I know there's much more here and I'm sure you already broke it down. My general impression is that there just wasn't any corner of this relationship that was a shelter from the effort. No place to rest and be yourselves as a couple.

Edit: well there is Mars Pluto trine as a pull... Not much of a resting spot though...

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posted October 06, 2016 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GB

just my impression, too!

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posted October 06, 2016 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you all so much!

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posted October 06, 2016 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Haha yeah...a slight problem.

Wait so you have Sun conjunct Venus opposing Moon conjunct Chiron in the 8th forming a tsquare with Saturn which is known to glue people together but is also the planet of limitations and karma..

What I see is two people who will always love each other like it or not but can't be together and can only be friends and not act out their deep feelings and sexual attraction..

These people are karmically programmed to care for each other but be stuck in the friend zone.

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posted October 06, 2016 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
phew looks very very intense with the Sun-Venus opposed to Moon, definitely strong emotional draw, but maybe also a bit see-sawing,
With Uranus on the Mercury/Venus-mp possibly electric communications (and flirt?).

But then there is also the square to Saturn, which could go either way, provide glue, or keeping things stuck and not allowing growth and stifling the good feelings even.

And with Chiron conjunct Moon, opposing Sun-Venus, there definitely is a vibration of the "wounded healer" there. maybe you both will be confonted with areas of vulnerability and where you might feel wounded or raw and easily hurt. Which could lead to a lot of healing, if you can endure the quiet intensity of this and the honesty Chiron demands to really look at what is going on on an emotional level between you.

If either of you cannot address these feelings or be that honest with yourselves and each other, this might lead to a lot of hurt feelings I fear.


Her interpretations sounds spot on too!

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posted October 06, 2016 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 06, 2016 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 06, 2016 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 06, 2016 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 08, 2016 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Vertex is close to your moon, is it not?

And close to the DSC, to boot.

Moon-Chiron being squared by ole Saturn is a bummer. But does Jupiter being there soften up the vibe somewhat? As in, even if there was hurt, which is inevitable, there's no hard feelings?

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posted October 08, 2016 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 08, 2016 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm sorry. Haven't heard about this guy before, maybe that in itself is very telling..
I was thinking the Uranus-Mars/Atropos quincunx might also have something to do with how it ended. Not sure how to interpret that though.

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this is one of those very rare type of charts which shows "true love" which can lead to tragedy if the two become a couple. it's as if the world brings them together to show them that someone else just like them exists, and then asks them to each go their own way.

not easy to forget people who give us such composites. but that's the point of it. you crossing paths with them can teach you to change your previous way of life. sometimes they have the same job as yours and after knowing them, you decide that you don't wanna end up like them so you change your job. you will somehow always remember them as a "warning" to not step into wrong directions.

it can play our the other way too. you may be going in a path which isn't to your benefit, and after knowing them, you will decide to follow in their path, like following their religion or taking on their job.

some common patterns in such relationship:
- squares/oppositions from saturn to the sun, chiron or the AC
- squares/oppositions from the sun to chiron
- vertex on the DC or in the 7th
- a rather scattered chart
- the sun/venus conjunction (if venus is before sun, the female will have a hard time getting over it, and if the sun is before venus, the male will have a hard time forgetting about it)
- the sun, the moon or mars or venus in the 9th. there is usually a theme of long-distance, different religions or master-student involved

* mars/neptune aspects aren't common but in any composite, they denote a high potential for abuse (mostly on the man's part) or lack of compassion in general

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posted October 08, 2016 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 08, 2016 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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