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yungang_grotto
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posted October 14, 2016 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those of you who have had Pluto heavy composites...

I am reading Rob Hand and he notes the likelihood of manipulation with the Pluto conjunct South Node especially, and I guess it rings a bell. Now I'm.just meditating on my own Pluto nature and how it manifests in general, I've been releasing control in good ways in huge parts of my life but now noticing too why it is wise to maintain it in certain regards; primarily just staying centred... not sure how else to describe it, and too many other chart factors play into my experience to aptly sum up right now...

But as for the Pluto heavy composites... I'm talking lots of hard aspects...

Would manipulation have been a keyword for those relationships? Did you manipulate one another? How? Why? Was it indicative of your own personal control dramas? How strong or active is your personal Pluto and how is your relationship with personal power, control, and domination by and of others? Big questions, I know.

Would you say that manipulation was a cause of the break up of such relationships, and if they haven't broken up, what have you been able to do to avoid manipulating one another? Or are you ok with being manipulated? Can you view this in a healthy way? Or is manipulation totally not descriptive of the relationship? You can see I'm hung up on this one right now.

More generally...

When you look back, did you change one another profoundly?

List your Pluto aspects in the composite, please~ and just include as much relevant astrological info as you can-- I'll do the same soon and answer my own questions if I can!

Thank you!

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thegrinning_cat
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posted October 15, 2016 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thegrinning_cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lately I realized that every meaningful relationship I had, had Pluto square Moon in Composite.
I have it with my mother and it makes sense to me, because I always kept on looking for similar relationships with friends or lovers.

For me, Pluto/Moon was extremely symbiotic.
At first, this felt great - I shared everything, gave my whole self in the relationship. I could endlessly talk about my deepest anxieties. I was not alone in this world!
I wanted to merge with the person, we bought the same things, had the same looks.

Then the problems started.
Pluto/Moon allowed no difference and no space.
And no change. And no new people.
Having no room of one's own felt like a burden.
My mother used to search my diaries if I wrote something bad about her and then punished me for it.
Friends kept texting me messages all the time and get angry when I didn't reply instantly.
I felt extremely dependent, because the people knew so much about me, I was afraid of leaving them.
They could share my secrets. Or disgrace me publicly.
And although I hated the relationship, I felt unable to leave it. Because it felt so massively important.
These people fundamentally changed my life - and I changed theirs.
But where do we go from there?
You want to be the only one who brings change to the person you love. That's what my mother thought as well.
But when my teenage friends gave me inspiration for new styles and haircuts, she only cried severely.
And got very, very angry.
There's one thing she always screamed at me: You don't see how much other people are manipulating you!
You changed into something I don't recognize anymore.

But the actual manipulation was of course just happening while saying this to me.
I left home when I was 17, because I couldn't take it anymore.
Similar thing with two very great and dramatic friendships.
At the end they just wanted to hurt me, because they felt I wanted to go elsewhere - and they wanted to stay where they are with me.

I don't miss them. It was a painful experience.
But I learned to trust in myself and care more for being a self instead of just giving into the warm easy lies of symbiosis.

My Mom and I talk again and today, after so many years of fighting and my going through a therapy - we have a working relationship.
Intimate but not to close, because I don't allow it.
She would like to move me back in but I refuse to even sleep over at my parents house, because the whole compulsive thing starts again then.

I have Moon trine Pluto exact in my Natal.
Venus is conjunct Pluto at 8 degrees.
My Sun and Mercury are in the 8th House.
MC is in Scorpio conjunct Saturn.

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"What will survive of us is love"

Sun -- VIRGO 25*
Moon -- GEMINI 28*
in a T-Square with 12th House Neptune

ASC -- CAPRICORN
VENUS -- LIBRA
MARS -- SAGRITARIUS

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comdoc
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posted October 15, 2016 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure if you would qualify this as Pluto heavy. With former fiance I had a glorious Tantric multi-year intimate relationship: 1 year bodies together.

My natal Leo Pluto in 12H (ruler of 4th), but part of stellium which extends to the ASC. Heavily aspected. I'm laissez faire, very open to intimacy and personal transformation.

Her natal 8H Libra Pluto sext 6H Leo Moon (conj my Aries Sun ruler Mars rising) and 10H Sag Neptune. She revels in intimate sensual body contact.

We are both powerfully sexual, spiritual, and determined. During courtship, she forcefully (nonphysical) eliminated another prospective mate.

Composite angular 4H Virgo Pluto trine 12H Taurus Sun-Cupid-Mercury, and square 2H Gemini Venus, and sextile 6H Scorpio Neptune. 8H Amor, Lust-SN.

Experience was more of both being manipulated by Higher Power. One of my two most powerful sexualoving relationships. Tantric intimacy manifested from halfway around the world. Definitely bigtime transformed us both. She told me "God wants us to be together in the future"!

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