posted October 17, 2016 04:33 PM            

* emotional empathy can be similar to the telepathic aspects, but with the focus on "pain" or extreme joy in some case. the feelings can appear out of the blue while your mind is busy elsewhere, but you can clearly sense that your partner is deeply happy or sad or even terrified over something.

posted October 17, 2016 05:45 PM            

On the other hand oftentimes when I get a very urgent feeling like I would really really really like to hear from him or what he`s been up to, within hours he will post something on his facebook. AT least 8 out of 10 of those times.

And I usually know when he responded to me, by the way it feels inside my solar plexus.

It`s a bit bizarre actually. Sometimes feels like mind-sharing almost. lol)

What is the reason astrologically?

I am not sure, but my usual suspects in our synastry are

° my Mercury conjunct his Moon (and Sun) and widely his NEptune
° his MErcury conjunct my Neptune-Node exact and also conjunct my ASC
° his Pallas-Psyche conjunct my Psyche

and in our composite

° Mercury conjunct Neptune
° Pallas in Aquarius trine Pluto

Not sure if alll of that is really strong enough (my Moon is in his 12th house though, maybe that?)

posted October 17, 2016 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I also remember that I was miraculously hit by an endless wave of intoxication, some hormonal boost I think, out of nothing at one day, and only later learned that exactly that moment his first son was being born.

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wow this is so goosebumps inducing!

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
On the other hand oftentimes when I get a very urgent feeling like I would really really really like to hear from him or what he`s been up to, within hours he will post something on his facebook. AT least 8 out of 10 of those times.

And I usually know when he responded to me, by the way it feels inside my solar plexus.

It`s a bit bizarre actually. Sometimes feels like mind-sharing almost. lol)

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this is exactly what I have seen a few couples or people who used to be a couple have! it's indeed fantastic!

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
my Mercury conjunct his Moon (and Sun) and widely his NEptune

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I can totally understand how telepathic the moon/mercury and mercury/sun connections are, but I always doubted they could be responsible for the physical aspect of the experience. but seeing you mentioning it, maybe it actually is?

posted October 18, 2016 07:52 AM            

"wow this is so goosebumps inducing!"
Yes, too me it was, too. Never felt like that before nor afterwards.
Only comparable feeling was when my little nephew was born a few weeks ago, but it still felt a bit different.

"this is exactly what I have seen a few couples or people who used to be a couple have! it's indeed fantastic!"
Yes, but that`s the weirdest thing. We aren`t a couple and never have been one. We are, as you could call it, "casual aquaintances", though even that category is strange.
I guess there is no category for us. lol

Just that we are`n`t actually that close to explain or make this kind of connection understandable, and yet it`s there.

And yes i was hesitating myself about paying so much attention to those aspects, but as Yun said, maybe we need to take Moon more serious in that regard (and Sun as well).
Still in our case there is an interconnection with the angles as my Mercury-Sun is on his MC and his Mercury on my ASC, plus my Mercury squares his ASC. And the ruler of his ASC is in my ASC-sign, conjunct my Mercury (square his ASC); and the ruler of my ASC is in his ASC-sign, square his Mercury (on my ASC).

posted October 18, 2016 10:39 AM            

Before we had planets beyond Saturn, the Moon represented the Plutonian qualities of death and rebirth, Neptunian qualities of artistry and profound illusions, the dream state and confusion, as in Tarot... actually tarot is a good place to go in our minds probably if we want to remember to take these lights seriously. The Sun is almost too brilliant to see clearly when we look at it directly. We just see how it illuminates every aspect of our being...

The Moon is not just our feelings, not just our somatic body, which in itself is a huge deal... the Moon is not passive either, or easily glossed over, but a mysterious and sometimes devastating force which brings itself to bear on every aspect of life on earth in forceful ways, just like the Sun...

The Sun is harder to talk about. But it is so bound up with our physical body and life force that it's literally impossible to extract its significance or effects from a chart symbolically or from a living being, either. It is literally the thing which illuminates all of us and everything, and gives the light necessary for our physical bodies to exist. Esoterically, as quintessence, the fifth element, it is the divine which animates all things. In astrology we talk about earth, air, fire, and water,,, well, there is a fifth element, and while Leo may be a Sun sign, the Sun is more than fire....

posted October 18, 2016 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The connections to the angles would be very important too, Ceri, yes.

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posted October 18, 2016 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
The Moon and Sun (as per Dawn, again!) should be studied in depth, their meanings understood minutely, before we ever start wondering what a quincunx to Neptune could mean... they certainly can affect our physical bodies! If not they, whom? They are integral to our being, the most integral, other than earth itself... Not that the planets don't have serious weight and significance, they do!--but Dawn stressed yesterday, too: "these aren't planets," she said. "I want people to stop calling them planets!" Lol.

Before we had planets beyond Saturn, the Moon represented the Plutonian qualities of death and rebirth, Neptunian qualities of artistry and profound illusions, the dream state and confusion, as in Tarot... actually tarot is a good place to go in our minds probably if we want to remember to take these lights seriously. The Sun is almost too brilliant to see clearly when we look at it directly. We just see how it illuminates every aspect of our being...

The Moon is not just our feelings, not just our somatic body, which in itself is a huge deal... the Moon is not passive either, or easily glossed over, but a mysterious and sometimes devastating force which brings itself to bear on every aspect of life on earth in forceful ways, just like the Sun...

The Sun is harder to talk about. But it is so bound up with our physical body and life force that it's literally impossible to extract its significance or effects from a chart symbolically or from a living being, either. It is literally the thing which illuminates all of us and everything, and gives the light necessary for our physical bodies to exist. Esoterically, as quintessence, the fifth element, it is the divine which animates all things. In astrology we talk about earth, air, fire, and water,,, well, there is a fifth element, and while Leo may be a Sun sign, the Sun is more than fire....

That's my ramble/note taking post-class uesyerday/kind of like homework, hope it's ok on this thread!

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lots of NEW and interesting ideas in one post!

posted October 18, 2016 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
I think the midpoints hold importance as well, especially the sun/moon.

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Definitely! It's all about their interaction, this is why the progressed Sun/Moon phase is so incredibly important to describe where we're at.

The Moon/Saturn interaction is also incredibly important, as it involves the work from the inner self (the 4th house cusp) which manifests tangibly in the outer world (Saturn and the 10th). When we can see our inner reality reflected in the outer world, we are truly satisfied....

The Astrology and Alchemy course Dawn offers is highly recommended... I don't know if she'll offer another Astro + Alchemy 1, but I would highly recommend working with her in any capacity.

posted October 18, 2016 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Girlwiththerainysoul,

"wow this is so goosebumps inducing!"
Yes, too me it was, too. Never felt like that before nor afterwards.
Only comparable feeling was when my little nephew was born a few weeks ago, but it still felt a bit different.

"this is exactly what I have seen a few couples or people who used to be a couple have! it's indeed fantastic!"
Yes, but that`s the weirdest thing. We aren`t a couple and never have been one. We are, as you could call it, "casual aquaintances", though even that category is strange.
I guess there is no category for us. lol

Just that we are`n`t actually that close to explain or make this kind of connection understandable, and yet it`s there.

And yes i was hesitating myself about paying so much attention to those aspects, but as Yun said, maybe we need to take Moon more serious in that regard (and Sun as well).
Still in our case there is an interconnection with the angles as my Mercury-Sun is on his MC and his Mercury on my ASC, plus my Mercury squares his ASC. And the ruler of his ASC is in my ASC-sign, conjunct my Mercury (square his ASC); and the ruler of my ASC is in his ASC-sign, square his Mercury (on my ASC).

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I'm curious, how did you get your "casual acquaintance's" time of birth? You must be good.

posted October 18, 2016 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I'm curious, how did you get your "casual acquaintance's" time of birth? You must be good.

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actualyl, well, that was a bit of a crazy story,
I saw him perform on stage, and was wondering about his ASC, so I went up to the stagedoor (which I NEVER do, well not until then at least. lol), and asked him.

Well actually by then I thought I was silly,c razy and wanted to leave but he just came through the door and ignoring the nice girls adoring him headed straight towards me, and before I knew it I was pulled into a strange bizarre dimension, trying to persuade him to believe me that I was REALLY not wearing the fragrance he thought he had detected, which made him sniff at my hair (which was a first time for me, having a man sniffing me up, practically within th efirst 10 minutes of meeting. lol), but I figured if he could sniff my hair, I could ask him about his birthtime. He totally confused me (as there was something rather instinctual-physical about the way he reacted to me or acted around me, and I was not able to deal with that - AQua Moon and all, trying to despearately pull that meeting up on an intellectual even if crazy level).

Anyway I asked him, and also told him I was interested in knowing his Ascendant/ horoscope (and no I DON`T do that usually! And I pray to the heavens above, by now he has forgotten all about our first meeting - well I managed to go into hiding for 2 years afterwardrs. lol) - well the moment I had said it, was one of the most interesting in my life, cause all the chattering around us suddenly died down (there were other performers, other people talking to them).
Well of course he did not know his birthtime, I said that it was too bad, and wanted to say bye and leave, when he told me to not leave but wait a few moments (it was the best moment to get rid of that crazy woman - me- but he chose otherwise that moment), then took out his mobile and called his parents to ask for his birthtime, in the middle of the night.

But yeah, that was our first meeting.

posted October 19, 2016 06:59 AM            

about my story?
Well it`s been many years ago (8 years to be precise. lol).
And back then I wasn`t able to deal with the impact it left on me, but also not able to stay away for REAL.
Never did I imagine he would recognize me, but he did, again and again and again, until even I could not deny it anylonger. (Well he did on one concert blurt out that I was driving him crazy, and on the next concert actually came down to me, teasing me a little and informed the whole crowd that we already knew each other - I mean seriously? How could I have gone on stubbornly insisting he did not remember me, when not only his action proved otherwise, but he really pretty much SPELLED it so that even I would get it. lol)

But back then at first meeting it was just, too much for me, at that point, and I remember the night after that, when I was thinking I was having a stroke or dying or something. I suppose something DID die, or my consciousness shifted, or something like that.

Anyway Ambrosia?

Well our first meeting chart has AMBROSIA on 23 Taurus, near but not near enough to Venus (4 degrees); however Venus was conjunct Sun/Ambrosia by 0°23, and widely conjunct both.

AMBROSIA itself was
sextile Vertex
trine Jupiter 1°18
sextile Uranus 1°14
square Neptune 0°52
square Node 1°33

Tr AMBROSIA
square my BML 1°06
square my Psyche 0°39
sextile my Eros-Vertex (about 2 degrees)

trine his Venus 2°32
opposite his Uranus 0°01
square his Pallas 0°57
trine his White Moon 1°43
square his Psyche 1°50

conjunct composite Juno 1°04
opposite c-Valentine 0°11
opposite c-Lust 1°20
trine c-Moon 0°31
square c-Psyche 1°15
sextile c-Ceres 0°03
square c-Saturn 1°32
quinkunx c-Mars 0°15

in the composite
AMBROSIA and KARMA are conjunct (0°15) on 9 Leo (on my Draco Chiron!) in 7th house.
I like the SAbian of this
Early Morning Dew Sparkles As Sunlight Floods The Field

The night we met Tr Mars was conjunct by 2 degrees applyling

Anyway,
Tr Sun on the first meeting was also conjunct my natal Ambrosia with 31 minutes of orb (2 Gemini)

His natal Ambrosia is on 17 Libra (conjunct our composite Pluto on 15 Libra and c-NN and c-Amor and c-Cupido on 20 Libra, right on my natal DNA on 20 Libra).

it wasn`t strongly actvated except for the exact quinkunx of Tr Valentine on 17 Taurus (which coincidentally fell exact onto my name in my chart. lol)

Well the last time we met, Tr White Moon (on my Draco Sun and his Draco Lilith) was exactly opposing his natal Ambrosia with Pluto squaring it, leaving 16 Cancer as the open spot (which coincidentally is where my Saturn falls and my progressed DESC is just about 2 degrees away).

Did I mention recently when we met he seemed a tad "in-tense"?

But anyway why were you asking about Ambrosia in th efirst place?

posted October 19, 2016 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

The Astrology and Alchemy course Dawn offers is highly recommended... I don't know if she'll offer another Astro + Alchemy 1, but I would highly recommend working with her in any capacity.

However I'll share what I can when I can!

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oh if this is the same Dawn who has this amazing blog (can't remember the name but it's definitely in my bookmarks), then it's so great that you're taking her courses!

posted October 19, 2016 01:37 PM            

Moon - Neptune is especially magical. No words necessary.

posted October 19, 2016 01:56 PM            

Yes, Dawn Bodrogi from Inner Wheel blog I think.
One of the very rare times I almost completely agree with another astrologer`s view.
And definitely agree on that with her.

I liked her suggestion taking - temporarily- the outers out of the chart and just see what Sun-Saturn are doing. That is a VERY eye-opening-exercise I must admit (after that we of course re-installing the outers into the chart).

posted October 19, 2016 03:14 PM            

well, look at what it was doing! It's the nectar of the gods, right? To do with smell I think, very much so, but a smell which doesn't even necessarily exist on the physical plane which he is smelling on you!! That is ambrosia.. It's just classic Ambrosia, I was certain it would figure somehow in your relationship, and Mars conjunct composite Ambrosia makes sense, given his boldness in actually sniffing you.

Conjunct Karma, so interesting...

I'm sorry it overwhelmed you though... it sounds very intense. Hopefully the opening up has been good overall?