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Topic: Synastry: Is it common people preferring moon square moon or unaspected?
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LinaG Newflake Posts: 23 From: Brazil,Italy, Slovenia Registered: Mar 2013
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posted November 04, 2016 07:32 PM
Hi, something is puzzling me, how many astrologers talk about soul mate and amazing aspects for love of moon conjunct sun (woman/men and vice versa) or moon conjunct moon and soft aspects.But,I personally don't agree. I like Moon square Moon in synastry. I have Moon in Capricorn conj Venus and Jupiter without any hard aspect to it. I enjoy particularly men with Moon in Aries. I can't understand or deal well with men with moon in Pisces, Virgo or Scorpio for too long. It never works out. Moon in cancer annoys me too, is too unstable. I like people with moon in Capricorn conjunct my moon but all of them are friends (male and female), I never feel anything else romantically. So I don't think is always true. For romantic relationships, I think my moon feels a challenge is better, for friendship moon soft aspects or conjunct moon is good I think though, specially conjunction. Another aspect that I feel almost repulsion is sun in Capricorn conjunct my moon/Venus/Jupiter. I don't enjoy those Capricorn men in a romantic setting at all. Never feel any attraction to any of them I know. I even tried once when I was young but called quits in 2 days. Actually I feel repulsed by them , they sometimes tried to be more than friends and I felt always very uncomfortable/annoyed. Same for moon in Sagittarius conjunct my sun. Usually they want to be around but I don't want to be around them (even my own sister, she has moon conj my sun and I always pushed her away since we were small kids, poor thing). Same for sag moon men, I also have never had any interest but they usually behave in an unsettling way, very pushy/stalk behavior, like flirting or showing physical attraction when I was unavailable being committed to somebody else(despite social conventions, like one was a boss at work, another best friend of my partner). So dunno but I really love cancer sun men they are my Achilles heel, specifically sun opposite my moon, or leo and gemini sun men. Also moons square/no aspect to my moon. (My longest term bf was moon in Aquarius not touching my moon and my current one has moon in Aries). How can you guys explain this? Anybody else has similar experiences? (My moon has no aspects to outer planets if this means anything) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29897 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2016 06:30 AM
Individual preference. It all comes down to the chartmake up. In your case a stellium of Moon-Venus-Jupiter, which btw exxplains the attraction to Aries Moon quite a bit, as this is a Martian Moon and would be attractive to your Moon-Venus-conjunction and Mars is exalted in Capricorn, so maybe that plays into it as well, a certain liking for this placement. Personally for me I love men`s Moon on my Sun, but the other way round Sun on my Moon seems to have a strictly friendship-vibration to me.
My Sun is conjunct Mercury, my DESC-ruler, so in my case part of my partner pattern, and apart from that unaspected. my Moon is almost unaspected if it weren`t for the exact quinkunx to Saturn, a sextile to chiron and semisextile to Juno. Conjunctions to it emphasize especially the quinkunx to Saturn, which seems to be easier for friendships, though I love the Saturnian vibe, just as much as I love the Jupiter one. Interestingly it seems I have a preference of Sun and Moon in Aries, sextile my Moon, compared to all other placements where my Moon would be aspects (though Moon in Taurus happened once before, too, which of course squares my Moon, but sextiles my Saturn; but generally I seem to fare quite well with saturn-squares to luminaries, much better than Sun or Moon squaring my Moon. Squares to my Sun are not a problem at all, though I don`t particulary seek it out. But my Sun is so relaxed I guess, it doesn`t mind the tension).
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted November 05, 2016 07:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Individual preference. It all comes down to the chartmake up. In your case a stellium of Moon-Venus-Jupiter, which btw exxplains the attraction to Aries Moon quite a bit, as this is a Martian Moon and would be attractive to your Moon-Venus-conjunction and Mars is exalted in Capricorn, so maybe that plays into it as well, a certain liking for this placement. Personally for me I love men`s Moon on my Sun, but the other way round Sun on my Moon seems to have a strictly friendship-vibration to me.
My Sun is conjunct Mercury, my DESC-ruler, so in my case part of my partner pattern, and apart from that unaspected. my Moon is almost unaspected if it weren`t for the exact quinkunx to Saturn, a sextile to chiron and semisextile to Juno. Conjunctions to it emphasize especially the quinkunx to Saturn, which seems to be easier for friendships, though I love the Saturnian vibe, just as much as I love the Jupiter one. Interestingly it seems I have a preference of Sun and Moon in Aries, sextile my Moon, compared to all other placements where my Moon would be aspects (though Moon in Taurus happened once before, too, which of course squares my Moon, but sextiles my Saturn; but generally I seem to fare quite well with saturn-squares to luminaries, much better than Sun or Moon squaring my Moon. Squares to my Sun are not a problem at all, though I don`t particulary seek it out. But my Sun is so relaxed I guess, it doesn`t mind the tension).
How does that Saturn quincunx feel, Ceridwen? How does it differ from the square? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29897 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2016 07:56 AM
I don´t have the square, so I guess it`s hard to say. Hm, sometimes a bit emotionally insecure? Like I want to have something, a plan maybe, so I know I am doing emotionally right? Which is irrational of course, as emotions do not ask about "right" or "wrong". But mostly it is about me reflecting a lot about my own emotions I think and modifying my behaviour accordingly. Also feels like I am often putting too much restriction on my own emotional and especially intimate expression (Moon rules 8th, Saturn is in 8th) than anyone would ever ask me to. Quite selfcritical, to the point of delusion (yes you can even delude you into thinking that someone does NOT like you, when they clearly do. lol) I`d say though I am a work in progress, and I am happiest when I am working on myself somehow. And no, I don`t feel repressed (by others), lonely, isolated, treated unfairly; my parents are very supportive people, too. So most of all I think it is an occasional feeling of insecurity and having to adapt or modify certain things, hence always watching/ observing myself, which can sometimes be too much. I can be quite structured in my working, too, and then out of nowwhere do something that makes the structure collapse, so I have to begin a new (well if it had been solid, it would not have collapsed, so it is good it did in these cases, so I could re-do it and to the better).
This is what darkstar astrology writes, and yes I cannot count how often I have surprised my colleagues with remarks noone ever expected of me. lol
"Moon quincunx Saturn is the quintessential eccentric headmistress or master. They command respect because they carry a rock-solid air of authority and a stoic approach to life. What the quincunx adds to this aspect is a sense of humour and an unusual approach to problem-solving. Moon quincunx Saturn may seem to take the traditional approach to management, but they have the knack of throwing a curve ball into situations which throw people sideways. Their employees/children quickly adjust themselves when Moon quincunx Saturn gives them a beaming smile combined with a “you will obey” stare. These folk have a great technical ability, they are natural scientists and methodical in every thing they do. This is an unexpectedly creative combination because Saturn crystallises the Moon’s imagination through the adjusting and juxtaposing energy of the quincunx. It had a very sculptural feel about it, intuition forms matter."
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LinaG Newflake Posts: 23 From: Brazil,Italy, Slovenia Registered: Mar 2013
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posted November 05, 2016 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Individual preference. It all comes down to the chartmake up. In your case a stellium of Moon-Venus-Jupiter, which btw exxplains the attraction to Aries Moon quite a bit, as this is a Martian Moon and would be attractive to your Moon-Venus-conjunction and Mars is exalted in Capricorn, so maybe that plays into it as well, a certain liking for this placement. Personally for me I love men`s Moon on my Sun, but the other way round Sun on my Moon seems to have a strictly friendship-vibration to me.
My Sun is conjunct Mercury, my DESC-ruler, so in my case part of my partner pattern, and apart from that unaspected. my Moon is almost unaspected if it weren`t for the exact quinkunx to Saturn, a sextile to chiron and semisextile to Juno. Conjunctions to it emphasize especially the quinkunx to Saturn, which seems to be easier for friendships, though I love the Saturnian vibe, just as much as I love the Jupiter one. Interestingly it seems I have a preference of Sun and Moon in Aries, sextile my Moon, compared to all other placements where my Moon would be aspects (though Moon in Taurus happened once before, too, which of course squares my Moon, but sextiles my Saturn; but generally I seem to fare quite well with saturn-squares to luminaries, much better than Sun or Moon squaring my Moon. Squares to my Sun are not a problem at all, though I don`t particulary seek it out. But my Sun is so relaxed I guess, it doesn`t mind the tension).
Interesting another person that feels sun conjunct their moon is more like friendship. I have read so much about it like is a romantic soulmate aspect. Never experienced it. I like woman with sun moon in capricorn. But the men with sun in capricorn is like sending me running to the hills.Maybe is the "flavor" of the moon like you said in Capricorn that would like a more "aries" moon. Makes sense to me. Since we have to fight to have emotional satisfaction in life as moon in capricorn, maybe we feel like we have to "battle and struggle" with a relationship in the emotional area. How does your moon feel in relationship? The needs or the flavor of it?
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29897 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2016 10:07 AM
yes, but someone else`s Moon on my Sun feels VERY romantic to me, so not even in my own chart I could say it`s one way or the other. Hmm, my Moon apparently does not want too many aspects actually. And prefers the sextile in most cases (and the septile or biseptile, but that might be cause my natal Sun-Moon-aspect is a septile)
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Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29897 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2016 10:24 AM
As for the Sun-Moon or Moon-Moon or Sun-Sun-interaspects between couples I looked at some my parents (happily married for over 40 years, still very affectionate with each other) ----------------------------------------------
Sun square Sun 1 degree his Moon opposite her Sun 2 degrees No Moon-Moonaspects, but both Moons in Earth-signs my best friend and her husband (married for 10 years, together for about 15, 4 kids) ----------------------------------------------
his Sun square her Moon 2 degrees Moon sextile Moon partile both Suns in earth trine and in wide trine (5°15) my brother and his girlfriend (been together for 10 years, living together about 5 years, not sure. had their first child in august) --------------------------------------------- No aspects between either Suns or Moons. Moons in incompatible signs both Suns in Pisces
while no luminary aspect, there is her Sun conjunct his ASC 1 degree her Moon conjunct his DESC partile
and some random celebrity examples:
Paul Newman - Joanne Woodward (marriage of over 50 years) ----------------------------------------------- no aspects between Suns and Moons at the chosen orb, however
his Moon about 6 degrees off her Sun and also about 6 degrees off her Moon, so widely conjunct each, and also his Moon falling onto her Sun/Moon-mp
A Sun-Moon-interchange between their charts (his Sun in Aqua and Moon in Pisces, her Sun in Pisces and Moon in Aqua)
Robert Browning and Elizabeth Barrett Browning (poets, quite a romantic story actually) ----------------------------------------------- Sun sextile Sun 1 degree Moons in opposing signs, widely opposite (6-7 degrees) her Moon widely conj. his DESC (5-6 degrees) seems most people go for compatible Moons though at least. Not all of course.
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LinaG Newflake Posts: 23 From: Brazil,Italy, Slovenia Registered: Mar 2013
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posted November 05, 2016 10:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: As for the Sun-Moon or Moon-Moon or Sun-Sun-interaspects between couples I looked at some my parents (happily married for over 40 years, still very affectionate with each other)
Interesting, I would like to know how they feel about it, because some people are married for sometime but are unhappy, so I would like to see how different moon people deals with different aspects, could be an interesting research. I don't think is cookie cutter. Another example, a man, a director where I worked had: Sun conj my Mars Venus Jupiter conjunct my Moon and Venus Moon Neptune conj my Sun North Node conjunct my Venus Jupiter Moon All in sign, and doesn't sound like a soulmate relationship? But was not, he wanted to force me to work as his private assistant, transfer me to his office and even though he was married constantly offer the key to his vacation house or asked me for dinner/lunch. He never treated me bad, actually I think he thought he was treating me well even though I said no and that I thought it was not appropriate. He was a very corrupt political man though and got in prison later. I never felt one ounce of attraction or likeness, only "let me get away from this, and I can't stand being around you". So I think sometimes astrological aspects don't affect everybody the same. That is why I made the thread, I would love to know how different moons/suns react to similar aspects. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Moderator Posts: 29897 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted November 05, 2016 11:23 AM
My parents are very happy with each other, and hardly spent a day apart (in fact at one time my Dad had to work abroad for 6 weeks, where he could only come home at the weekends, and it was hellish for both of them,they spent most of the evenings on the phone with each other, and at that time had been married for over 20 years already I think). Well seems in your director`s case the synastry worked well enough, after all he was taken with you.
But really, it all does not mean much, unless you have a good grasp for the natals in question and what everyone needs and even if so, there are just no guarantees, though I usually see synastry play out always, just not in cookbook style. But if you have strong dynamic aspects with each other you will notice each other - however isolated aspects can never give a real answer. IP: Logged |
LinaG Newflake Posts: 23 From: Brazil,Italy, Slovenia Registered: Mar 2013
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posted November 07, 2016 11:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: My parents are very happy with each other, and hardly spent a day apart (in fact at one time my Dad had to work abroad for 6 weeks, where he could only come home at the weekends, and it was hellish for both of them,they spent most of the evenings on the phone with each other, and at that time had been married for over 20 years already I think). Well seems in your director`s case the synastry worked well enough, after all he was taken with you.
But really, it all does not mean much, unless you have a good grasp for the natals in question and what everyone needs and even if so, there are just no guarantees, though I usually see synastry play out always, just not in cookbook style. But if you have strong dynamic aspects with each other you will notice each other - however isolated aspects can never give a real answer.
Makes sense, I don't think synastry means it will work great. And maybe sometimes can be one sided or cause intense feelings but of both repulse or romance. You think this is possible? IP: Logged | |