posted November 29, 2016 06:19 PM            

Over the last year it's been a series of letting me in then pushing me out. He talks to me every day. This last time he says he can't trust me. He absolutely positively won't let me go, but he's not even nice to me!

Usually he's just butt hurt and I can smooth it over, this time it's taking forever. Why not just let me go? Ugh!

Me:
Sun - Pisces
Moon - aqua
Mercury - Pisces
Mars - Taurus
Venus - Cap

I know very little about cancer

posted November 29, 2016 10:58 PM            

He's very emotionally manipulative but I'm hooked. I just want it to be better and be good like it was but I'm not sure how to get it back there with him. He goes in and out of his shell, typically I just wait it out.

Right now we have a big business deal on the line that he could make more money without me in it, he refuses to let me out. He could be hateful and cut me out because the investor is his, but he won't. It's like he wants to keep me here knowing I'm hurting. He keeps saying "after this deal, neither of us will ever have to worry about money again, I'm not letting you give up on this". He could do it without me and be set financially for life, but he insists on including me. If I complain about him slacking off and not working hard enough, a couple days later he'll randomly bring it back up and say "you said I wasn't doing anything last week and that wasn't the case, I was working on blah blah blah". But why do all of this if he doesn't want me? I don't know why he insists on taking care of my financial problems. I don't know why he won't let me go. I don't know why he gets offended when I complain about his work ethic and has to prove what he was working on.

posted November 29, 2016 11:32 PM            

I have three cancer sun males that are close to me and EACH ONE is emotionally manipulative and can be very mean! Not sure if that's a coincidence, but I don't believe in coincidence.

Having said that, I am a Pisces moon and have done a LOT of work on myself. (I'm female and my moon still gets the best of e sometimes and in the worst ways, it's a constant struggle)

posted November 30, 2016 05:19 AM            

cancer energy is VERY self protective, and just like the ocean waves, it approaches for a while and then retreats. when a man has cancer mars, you will literally have to mother him most of the time, especially since his moon is also the same as your sun sign. he's looking for lots of support and reassurance, and his bitchiness is probably not directed at you, it's just how he must be often, but you should know better by observing him over a considerable time.

posted November 30, 2016 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by liz45750:
It's like he wants me to say sorry, then when I do he kicks me when I'm down lol... then when I say F this, I'm out, he can't handle it...

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posted November 30, 2016 01:53 PM            

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Originally posted by panzi:
He treated her very nice only when she was indifferent and cold and bitchy with him.

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This is exactly how I feel about him! My aqua moon can be pretty detached when I consciously try to be detached, but sometimes I just want to lose myself in that Pisces and tell someone over and over how perfect I think they are, lol. I guess everything in moderation. I could probably afford to just kick that moon into over drive when he gets out of line and remind myself it's not bc he doesn't care, but that's how he needs treated.

And really, I guess it's good for me to do that from time to time with anyone because I lose myself in people.

posted November 30, 2016 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
that my friend, happens to a lot of pisces sun/moon people by almost all other signs, especially scorpio! is he by any chance scorpio ascendant? if not, there seems to be significant pluto involved in synastry.

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posted November 30, 2016 02:05 PM            

At 1pm he sent me a pic of a phone payment receipt from 8:30 am (I get notification of payments and he knows this) and said:
I just paid $230
Remaining balance is $281.16
So -$115 from what I owe you on the hoodies you bought

Obviously he's looking for reasons to talk. Thank you guys for reminding me this is just how cancer men are

posted November 30, 2016 04:52 PM            

Not everyone gets to see this side of them though. I think only those special few who get to the core of a Cancer see how vulnerable they really are - how clingy they can be. How "lost" they can seem without that "mothering" they crave.

posted November 30, 2016 09:35 PM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
From what I've observed knowing them (including my brother who is one) I feel like Cancer men are deep down eternal children in some ways, needing a "mother" figure in any form whether it be their actual mothers being influential in their lives or their girlfriends/wives stepping into that role. They need warm, caring attention while also that stern disciplinarian who will put them in their place when they get out of line (without completely tearing them down). They need to feel that sense of "unconditional love" a mother would give in that they can misbehave, but they will still be loved at the end of the day. Hence that odd behaviour of acting out, only to be remorseful once they've been disciplined - "sorry Mom."

Not everyone gets to see this side of them though. I think only those special few who get to the core of a Cancer see how vulnerable they really are - how clingy they can be. How "lost" they can seem without that "mothering" they crave.

In a word, for a woman to successfully be with any Cancer man, they need to be STRONG. It is a common misbelief that a Cancer man would need a meek woman to compliment his emotional ways. No. They need someone who will accept them for they are, pick them up when they fall and still love them at the end of the day. Someone who they feel they can rely on and who will dish out as much *constructive* criticism as they do warmth and affection. Just like a mother.

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posted December 01, 2016 12:49 AM            

We both have a very hard time trusting each other and would be self protective and do things that make the other feel let down.

posted December 01, 2016 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
From what I've observed knowing them (including my brother who is one) I feel like Cancer men are deep down eternal children in some ways, needing a "mother" figure in any form whether it be their actual mothers being influential in their lives or their girlfriends/wives stepping into that role. They need warm, caring attention while also that stern disciplinarian who will put them in their place when they get out of line (without completely tearing them down). They need to feel that sense of "unconditional love" a mother would give in that they can misbehave, but they will still be loved at the end of the day. Hence that odd behaviour of acting out, only to be remorseful once they've been disciplined - "sorry Mom."

Not everyone gets to see this side of them though. I think only those special few who get to the core of a Cancer see how vulnerable they really are - how clingy they can be. How "lost" they can seem without that "mothering" they crave.

In a word, for a woman to successfully be with any Cancer man, they need to be STRONG. It is a common misbelief that a Cancer man would need a meek woman to compliment his emotional ways. No. They need someone who will accept them for they are, pick them up when they fall and still love them at the end of the day. Someone who they feel they can rely on and who will dish out as much *constructive* criticism as they do warmth and affection. Just like a mother.

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This is perfect. I've been with 1 Cancer Sun and 1 Cancer Asc. Both long-term relationships where we were living together almost immediately. And I took care of them. Physically and emotionally. I've only had a few Cancer influenced (Sun/Moon/Asc) male friends, and while they each had their own distinct personalities, they all shared the need to be the center of attention for the women in their lives. Not necessarily needing their ladies to be showering them with affection, but they would act out for attention or a reprimand. Like a little boy would do almost. I really hope noone takes offense, but they are like the zodiac's perpetual momma's boys. Which there is nothing wrong with, show me a man who loves his mother who doesnt show the same love and respect to his girlfriend or wife. I resect that wholeheartedly.

With the Cancer Sun, after the first year, I felt he wanted to control me and nothing more. But he was trying to control me to take care of him. Conditioning me, if you will. He had a terrible trauma early in his life losing his mother. So in a way I can at least understand his actions. His mother passed when he was 8 and she was the most important person in his life according to all of his family. He wanted to recreate that.

The Cancer Asc tried to act like he just needed someone to take care of him. Cook his meals, clean his house, remind him to be an adult. He was starved for real love and affection when I met him, which I gave gladly and willingly. Damn his beautiful Virgo Moon. They get me every stinking time. What he really needed was to be nurtured and encouraged. Sometimes with a firm hand.

I'm a Pisces Sun/Merc with a Taurus Moon and while logic would say Cancer would do well with these signs in an intimate relationship... ugh, I do not agree. I don't think Pisces has the stamina. I made it 4 years with the Cancer Sun and 5 with the Cancer Asc and honestly, it was very draining for me. It could my my Mars/Uranus conjunction afflicting my Moon, but I feel it more just drained me rather than my feelings changing. While I'm very nurturing and loving and will lend an ear and shoulder to anyone who needs it, I need this in return. And usually my partner is my confidante. With both my Cancer influenced partners it felt like I was their rock all the time but if I needed someone my feelings were a bother. So I gave and gave and got barely anything in return. Just enough to keep me hanging on.

posted December 01, 2016 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by liz45750:
How can you build trust back with a cancer?

We both have a very hard time trusting each other and would be self protective and do things that make the other feel let down.

Long story short he says we need to build trust again but I'm not sure how if he won't let me close like I was before.

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Something I've learned in my "older" age. It *shouldn't* be that hard. It either works or it doesn't.

You as a pisces, need to FEEL good & secure in a relationship- or it won't be right. Sure, there will be peaks of happiness and frustration, but take it from me: You should not have to question intentions, and often. Sounds to me like you are carrying 80% of the relationship here, and that's a BAD dynamic. Bene there, done that. I won't settle for anything less than magic at this point. I don't mean to sound harsh, but you sound like a sweetheart (I am too and proud to admit that) BUT that makes us more susceptible to getting stomped on.