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MoonMystic
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posted December 09, 2016 01:49 AM
  
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ana_bee
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posted December 09, 2016 05:12 AM
My best friend has someone she just can't get over. In synastry her Gemini Venus conj his NN exactly. They've had an on/off thing for the last 6 years. Whenever they got too close, he was always the one pulling away.. Then coming back after a while. They would also meet under most curious circumstances. Sometimes not hearing from each other for almost a year, then meeting on the street in a different city. He moved to Canada last year with his fiancé. He would never commit to anyone, then he met this woman and suddenly he was sure. My girlfriend was devastated. It really hurt her a lot! I don`t know the other woman personally, so I can`t say anything about their charts. My best friend and him they`ve had pretty nice compatibility aspects.. but I heard and experienced that planet/north node aspects always pose a challenge to the node person, even with a planet like venus! The first reaction is incredible fascination on the node person`s part, but that notion can quickly turn into a very icky feeling.. almost as if repulsed by the planet person. My best friend has a venus square node aspect in her natal chart and a venus square saturn aspect.. so she has some issues to work on. Meeting him activated all of this. So I guess the unrequitted love aspect would be venus conj someones north node - if the north node person is more south node oriented! Another example from my personal experience: A friend of mine I was very much in love with. His saturn conj my SN, my ASC conj his SN. 10 years later and I`m still thinking about him now and then..although it`s not romantic anymore. I got over it. But it took me a very long time. We were and still are incompatible in every sense! Copletely different world views and values. No common ground emotionally. But I guess the Node aspects kept us somehow locked. And we were young. He was my first love. We could never make it work. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 12:38 PM
I would say Moon/Pluto.------------------
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted December 09, 2016 06:00 PM
My ex's Venus conjuncts my NN exactly in Aries. She will find ways to contact me or try to seep into my life somehow. I'll always love her and I don't wish any ill will on her, but the general theme of our relationship was her selfishness. IP: Logged |
ScorpieScorp
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posted December 09, 2016 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I would say Moon/Pluto.
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Ami Anne
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posted December 09, 2016 07:42 PM
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Can you expand on why?
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MoonMystic
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posted December 09, 2016 09:17 PM
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Orange
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posted December 09, 2016 09:48 PM
his Venus conjuncts my North Node, and my ASCand my Nodes lay across his asc/dsc, with my South Node on his ASC. I dunno, we are still in love..its been almost 3 years now IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted December 09, 2016 09:57 PM
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CosmiqPhuz
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posted December 09, 2016 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
That one sounds like a fire that yearns to burn. Over, over and over. No getting over eachother completely.
Yes, unfortunately. I can only speak for myself, but she stole a piece of my heart and I don't think I'll ever get it back. On top of our Venus-NN conjunction - my Venus conjunct her Moon and Pluto closely, and my Pluto conjunct her Moon closely. All in Scorpio. Both our Ascendants are the same sign a few degrees apart - so all our houses are about aligned. We also had a lovely trine between our Mercuries - hers in Pisces, mine in Scorpio. Despite those aspects, my Mars opposed her Sun and Venus. Her Venus squared my Neptune. She also has Venus square Uranus natally. Her Saturn sextiled my Venus, but that probably wasn't enough glue I guess. She wrote me a letter hinting at the possibility of reconnecting. Although a part of me yearns for that, I know it would hurt me too much to see her. I can't look at her the same way... IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted December 10, 2016 11:58 AM
I would say hard Neptune aspect might be involved. Even Chiron. Yep, Pluto to some extend. IP: Logged |
tessacha
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posted December 10, 2016 07:45 PM
What about sun conjunct Pluto? IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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posted December 11, 2016 08:49 PM
I know a guy I have my venus conjunct his nn and his venus conjunct my nn. My saturn also conjuncts his venus. I met him by a friend a few years ago and we hung out from time to time for about 9 months then he movied away. After a few years I heard from him, total shocker and he said he was moving back this way this year. My venus is in gemini and his is in virgo. IP: Logged |
peony
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posted December 12, 2016 12:46 AM
Saturn-Neptune aspects in synastry. There are threads on this you can find with the LL search engine. I've read many people's accounts of this contact. The sense I get from many people's experiences, including mine, is the feeling of being haunted by the encounter, of it being fated, but star-crossed lovers. Here's a link to an article about this aspect. http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted December 12, 2016 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by peony:
Saturn-Neptune aspects in synastry. There are threads on this you can find with the LL search engine. I've read many people's accounts of this contact. The sense I get from many people's experiences, including mine, is the feeling of being haunted by the encounter, of it being fated, but star-crossed lovers. Here's a link to an article about this aspect. http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html
Ugh, I have the square in synastry with someone and I agree IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted December 13, 2016 02:21 PM
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted December 13, 2016 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by peony:
Saturn-Neptune aspects in synastry. There are threads on this you can find with the LL search engine. I've read many people's accounts of this contact. The sense I get from many people's experiences, including mine, is the feeling of being haunted by the encounter, of it being fated, but star-crossed lovers. Here's a link to an article about this aspect. http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html
my only sibling (she's 20 months younger) and I have our saturn square both our parents' neptune. it must be significant. I think neptune makes saturn feel guilty over certain responsibilities which aren't for the saturn person to worry. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted December 13, 2016 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Curious if it can be seen - hearts never healed from heartbreak or there are never ending love aspects towards the other. Has anyone explored this one?
this feeling could be moon/neptune or venus/neptune; more hard aspects than harmonious. sometimes even sun/neptune. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic
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posted December 14, 2016 02:33 AM
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted December 14, 2016 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
GirlWithTheRainySoul,You are right. His Neptune opposes my moon, sun and even Venus. Yet somehow we were in deep love but it was he who most easily closed the door. This facet does show one sidedness. Thanks for that suggestion, it was most helpful. Edit: this is bizarre. I rechecked our synastry for other asteroids and now those oppositions have vanished.
you are welcome, glad I could be of help about the onesidedness, I think the neptune person feels this eternal love mixed with pain also, maybe even stronger. but it's often too much for the other planet person to handle. there must be other supportive synastry aspects to overcome hard neptune aspects.
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peony
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posted December 16, 2016 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
Curious if it can be seen - hearts never healed from heartbreak or there are never ending love aspects towards the other. Has anyone explored this one?
Oh, yes. I wouldn't say "never," but I would say there's a precise correlation with Saturn-Neptune conjunctions and hard aspects. I know someone who was betrayed in a most painful way by the woman he loved. Betrayal being one of the themes possible with Saturn-Neptune as well. He has a Saturn-Neptune conjunction square Moon, and his heartbreak is not healed yet. I don't know how long it takes to get over a heartbreak of this magnitude. It may take him a few more lifetimes but it will. As for never ending love aspects towards someone, I agree with girlwiththerainysoul. This person and I have a Moon-Neptune square DW and Neptune square Venus in synastry. I have a natal Venus-Neptune square. Despite the heartbreak or because of it, my faith in the "holiness of the heart's affections" remains unbroken. What I mean by "because of it," is heartbreak can lead to heart opening. What "breaks" are the protective devices around the heart. Also, Love draws us together, lifetime after lifetime. The driving force of this solar system is moving towards Love's consummation, so in the long run, the fulfillment of Love is our destiny because we're a part of this cosmic Being. quote:
Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
this feeling could be moon/neptune or venus/neptune; more hard aspects than harmonious.sometimes even sun/neptune.
Spot on re Moon-Neptune and Venus-Neptune. No experience with Sun-Neptune. IP: Logged |
peony
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posted December 16, 2016 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
my only sibling (she's 20 months younger) and I have our saturn square both our parents' neptune. it must be significant.I think neptune makes saturn feel guilty over certain responsibilities which aren't for the saturn person to worry.
Was there some frailty or failing on your parents' part? I wonder if they let you and your sister down in some way. IP: Logged |
AwakenSky16
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posted December 16, 2016 08:12 AM
Aspect sun/Neptune :
My sun/his neptune (I think he gave me the great illusion/idealization): after some months and conversations, I fall in love because : "he's the man that I always look for and wanted !". unconditionally ! I think it was like looking in a mirroir but with an sublime halo of illusion : because he's Neptune ! (+ attraction,ESP...). I am not awaken yet...
I read that when Sun is in love with Neptune, this one tries to be something that he isn't himself to stay and still pleasant to the sun. He tries to adapt himself to the partner visions... Not really good at least when he realizes he can't be this and he may escape from the relationship, Because he doesn't feel good enough. He did it...
At the same time, I was conscious that he was adapting himself and I didn't want him to be anything than himself, didn't want he erases what he was ... : He could thought that I couldn't appreciate his efforts. I think this aspect can be difficult to handle 
An interesting reading here If you like :
https://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/10/05/difficult-neptune-aspects-in-chart-comparison/Others aspect for haunting (because there are probably no happy obsessions at the end): Nessus/Venus, Eros/Dejanira,Pluto/Mars, Pluto/Venus, Nodes/Nodes, yes saturn/neptune etc...AND For all of these, the worth : with DW 
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colorful butterfly
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posted December 17, 2016 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
My best friend has someone she just can't get over. [b]In synastry her Gemini Venus conj his NN exactly. They've had an on/off thing for the last 6 years. Whenever they got too close, he was always the one pulling away.. Then coming back after a while. They would also meet under most curious circumstances. Sometimes not hearing from each other for almost a year, then meeting on the street in a different city. He moved to Canada last year with his fiancé. He would never commit to anyone, then he met this woman and suddenly he was sure. My girlfriend was devastated. It really hurt her a lot! I don`t know the other woman personally, so I can`t say anything about their charts. My best friend and him they`ve had pretty nice compatibility aspects.. but I heard and experienced that planet/north node aspects always pose a challenge to the node person, even with a planet like venus! The first reaction is incredible fascination on the node person`s part, but that notion can quickly turn into a very icky feeling.. almost as if repulsed by the planet person. My best friend has a venus square node aspect in her natal chart and a venus square saturn aspect.. so she has some issues to work on. Meeting him activated all of this. So I guess the unrequitted love aspect would be venus conj someones north node - if the north node person is more south node oriented! Another example from my personal experience: A friend of mine I was very much in love with. His saturn conj my SN, my ASC conj his SN. 10 years later and I`m still thinking about him now and then..although it`s not romantic anymore. I got over it. But it took me a very long time. We were and still are incompatible in every sense! Copletely different world views and values. No common ground emotionally. But I guess the Node aspects kept us somehow locked. And we were young. He was my first love. We could never make it work.[/B]
Thats men for ya, they say dumb crap like I'm never ever going to do blah blah blah n then, boom there it is. Thier doing exactly what they said they wouldn't. I have venus in gemini and conjunct this guys nn. Which makes his sn in sagittarius. Nn are hard for another person to reach from what I've read and we mainly fall back on our sn.
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DreamCatcher
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posted December 17, 2016 09:32 AM
I've noticed a pattern for me with the two men I just can't get out of my brain. I mean, they haunt me at different times. Both of their Sun and Venus fall in my 8th house. They are both under the same astrological sign as each other as well. I've studied both charts and mine in comparison, and this seems to be it (at least for me). I find them very sexy and my "type". With both men, I had a strong physical and mental connection. There were some heavy pluto aspects with one, but the other one there was not. There was a lot of positive saturn. Long story short: I think those two planets in my 8th are what are haunting me. IP: Logged |
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