posted January 02, 2017 11:21 PM            

At that point communication becomes critical because it's the only way of trying to bridge the significant emotional gap. And Mercury sextile Mercury looks promising in that regard, but Pluto conjunct Mercury could be bringing out more issues than the actual deep underlying rapport of the relationship can stand to reckon with. Especially as it's your 3H Pluto excavating his private/semi-psychic 12H Mercury.

Maybe the things you most want to discuss, he doesn't want to discuss? But your Mars is on his NN in Gemini so it's like your assignment to get this guy talking...but it's in his 8H so maybe it's not the quantity of words but subtle qualities he's expecting or hoping you to be able to follow and appreciate.

I think his Venus-Mars in Virgo probably does a lot of kind and considerate things that melt your Cancer Venus heart. Perhaps he makes you feel that this arduous Saturn-NN journey is much more pleasant and bearable with his help and advice; he must take the edge off.

Only you know how he makes you feel...it's not sounding too happy or promising at this point...and again, with the mismatched luminaries, that's sort of what I would expect, though there is also a lot to chew over with this.

posted January 03, 2017 03:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Composite please?

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Aw Faith, thanks so much. This is the synastry for the composite I posted a couple weeks ago http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006365.html

You'll see the composite Sun is conjunct our Venus-Mars, Saturn-NN conjunction. You mentioned that Sun before. My Sun is conjunct the composite Mars-NN (c. Nessus!?). And his Libra stellium is conjunct c Pluto and the c Uranus-Mercury midpoint that Todd mentioned. I didn't add Juno to the composite, but c Juno is conjunct c Chiron 4 or 5 degrees.

I feel very responsible for him obviously with Saturn conjunct Venus-Mars. And he adores me. We love each other. I feel like his sibling. Like our incompatibility is much less significant than this understanding we share. Some 6 of Cups images capture my feelings about him very well. Our communication is awesome when we're talking about anything other than ourselves. I get along with analytical people very well when things are platonic, but they get intimate everything goes to **** !

There is just too much going on with the sex. It's crazy and overwhelming. I feel like I get plugged into this big circuit board of consciousness...in other conversations he says he doesn't believe sex is anything more than sex, and we're so close because of our intellectual connection. But in the moment when I can't take the intensity and I break down and start crying he's right there like he feels it too. He becomes Cancer like and holds me saying aww Hana, Ill take care of you. And not just that. LOTS of stuff goes on and he is completely present. But when I ask him if he "feels" it he doesn't answer....but then you see he dreams the way he does.

I feel like I am carrying all the emotional and spiritual burden in this because he won't answer it. So I lose it and he gets to be the cool thinker. He doesn't hold it over my head. I just don't want the full burden. I don't want to carry all the responsibility for what this is. I don't want to get hurt like that. Ending are fine. Beginnings are wonderful and exciting. Baggage and misunderstandings, my heart can't take.

I know you guys cant possibly know for sure, but I'm really just hoping that I call out and the universe (or Faith) answers can you see where balance is achieved in this relationship? Not all needs need to be met. Just balance. Hard question. Maybe astrology can't answer it. I don't know.

posted January 03, 2017 11:14 AM            

I love how you write about this, it's so illuminating and yet sad, to consider that you can have SO much, but lack one thing you need? Or maybe more than one thing....

Perhaps he is incapable of saying what you need him to say? His ego isn't that elastic and he's never said things like that before? It would be like leaping out into the dark, becoming someone new, someone who is more like the other half of you...?

This IS that highly spiritual composite with the unaspected sun...so heavenly minded, one wonders how the connection sustains itself here on earth.

"Like our incompatibility is much less significant than this understanding we share. "

LOL, that actually does make a lot of sense, and I can relate so much. Well, just as a side note, and I'm not sure how much this applies in your case: I think we often use astrology to talk about life, and tend to downsize the fact that astrology IS life when we are astrologers. And sometimes when we use astrology to substantiate what is happening between ourselves and other people, we get a view into The Big Picture and start translating mundane experiences accordingly. Especially when there is heavy nodal involvement. Maybe it's just me but once I see in black and white (charts) a kind of destined, highly charged spiritual connection...yes, the attendant incompatibility pales in comparison, because my focus is now trained on the jewels in that connection.

And yet I think if people are wanting to move in together or progress together as a normal couple, that incompatibility becomes the larger issue, because everyday stresses will probably dampen the spiritual element, and all that's left is "Huh? What were we thinking?" (Neptune)

So for conventional match-ups on this planet I am anti-incompatibility....I believe there really are so many fish in the sea (pardon my Sag Venus for sounding callous!) and while one connection is mind-blowing but difficult, there's probably others out there that are mind-blowing but sustainable and peaceful...that's what I want to believe anyway. And you're a Goat, and I'm a Rabbit, and we NEED peace. As you said, you want harmony.

posted January 03, 2017 03:30 PM            

I have not looked at all the chart as I am tired and cannot think in big picture now.. but thinking about your comment on "having the emotional responsibility" of the relationship makes me think on the saturn opposition to your moon. Normally we bring relationhips with that hard aspect when we are in need of developing emotional independence. you may feel that your emotional needs are always dismissed as childish or similar and that they are not fully met (in spite of the venus trine).

I can sympatize with your need for harmony but it is hard for me to think in harmony when i see moon aspecting mars and saturn aspecting mars as well. he may feel that you do not let him be. he may feel you are always controlling him.. like a mother and you may feel that he does the same with your emotional needs... however, we all now about the power of saturn in keeping things united..

bright side that jupiter of your aspecting his moon and his jupiter. nice.. generosity may come easy.

sorry i just can think straight... just wanted to tell you that (from my intuition) that do not despair. just look pick the most compelling issues in the synastry (i.e. moon saturn) and try to find inside what can you do to become more independent emotionally. do you really needs that much support? do you really need to share ALL that with him? is there anybody-something around that can substitute for some of your emotional needs that currently are "demanded" from him? Just throwing questions here.. not saying this is your problem... just suggesting themes that can be pointed out by saturn aspecting your moon...

will try to look with fresh eyes during this week and give a more proper response.

posted January 03, 2017 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
After I turned off my computer last night, I realized it was most likely the composite you posted before.

I love how you write about this, it's so illuminating and yet sad, to consider that you can have SO much, but lack one thing you need? Or maybe more than one thing....

Perhaps he is incapable of saying what you need him to say? His ego isn't that elastic and he's never said things like that before? It would be like leaping out into the dark, becoming someone new, someone who is more like the other half of you...?

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This IS that highly spiritual composite with the unaspected sun...so heavenly minded, one wonders how the connection sustains itself here on earth.

"Like our incompatibility is much less significant than this we share. "

LOL, that actually does make a lot of sense, and I can relate so much. Well, just as a side note, and I'm not sure how much this applies in your case: I think we often use astrology to talk about life, and tend to downsize the fact that astrology IS life when we are astrologers. And sometimes when we use astrology to substantiate what is happening between ourselves and other people, we get a view into The Big Picture and start translating mundane experiences accordingly. Especially when there is heavy nodal involvement. Maybe it's just me but once I see in black and white (charts) a kind of destined, highly charged spiritual connection...yes, the attendant incompatibility pales in comparison, because my focus is now trained on the jewels in that connection.

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Did you ever read The Pilgrims Progress? I can't remember a word of it. And I wonder if I am confusing the book with an ayat in quran... The protagonist embarks on a spirit quest along the way he/she meets with various other people. She needs to meet and interact with and learn from these people in order to take the next step on the journey.

We feel it and astrology clarifies it all for us and astrology is life, yes.

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And yet I think if people are wanting to move in together or progress together as a normal couple, that incompatibility becomes the larger issue, because everyday stresses will probably dampen the spiritual element, and all that's left is "Huh? What were we thinking?" (Neptune)

So for conventional match-ups on this planet I am anti-incompatibility....I believe there really are so many fish in the sea (pardon my Sag Venus for sounding callous!) and while one connection is mind-blowing but difficult, there's probably others out there that are mind-blowing but sustainable and peaceful...that's what I want to believe anyway. And you're a Goat, and I'm a Rabbit, and we NEED peace. As you said, you want harmony.

Sorry for the length. Gem Mars, you know.

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Ha ha I'm a goat goat and you're a rabbit. I want to reply to the last part of your comment bit I am sitting here falling asleep as I type. I'll be back tomorrow.

posted January 03, 2017 10:56 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
Hi Venus,

I have not looked at all the chart as I am tired and cannot think in big picture now.. but thinking about your comment on "having the emotional responsibility" of the relationship makes me think on the saturn opposition to your moon. Normally we bring relationhips with that hard aspect when we are in need of developing emotional independence. you may feel that your emotional needs are always dismissed as childish or similar and that they are not fully met (in spite of the venus trine).

I can sympatize with your need for harmony but it is hard for me to think in harmony when i see moon aspecting mars and saturn aspecting mars as well. he may feel that you do not let him be. he may feel you are always controlling him.. like a mother and you may feel that he does the same with your emotional needs... however, we all now about the power of saturn in keeping things united..

bright side that jupiter of your aspecting his moon and his jupiter. nice.. generosity may come easy.

sorry i just can think straight... just wanted to tell you that (from my intuition) that do not despair. just look pick the most compelling issues in the synastry (i.e. moon saturn) and try to find inside what can you do to become more independent emotionally. do you really needs that much support? do you really need to share ALL that with him? is there anybody-something around that can substitute for some of your emotional needs that currently are "demanded" from him? Just throwing questions here.. not saying this is your problem... just suggesting themes that can be pointed out by saturn aspecting your moon...

will try to look with fresh eyes during this week and give a more proper response.

best wishes
NS

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Norsicsoul thank you so much. This is exactly what I need. I will be back to edit with replies.

posted January 08, 2017 03:44 PM            

do you still want people to look at your chart. I realized I promised to look at it in more detail, but your chart is not there anymore..