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hearttreasure
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posted January 08, 2017 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you tell me how's their synastry look like? or the composite?

The female: RED (Tau rising)
The male: BLUE (not sure his rising sign)

Synastry

Composite


Due to both are having Libra mars, both approach problems in a passive-aggressive way. The worst trait of Libra Mars come to play and both build lots of resentment to each other due to lack of directness in words and actions. (Although the female is more opened due to her Aries sun and mercury than the male who bottle it up inside)

The female always calls me whenever they had a (passive-aggressive) fight. 2 years ago the male hit her and he made a big blue circle around her eyes. It was a shock for the female. Until then both are not happy anymore but still stay. They have two kids together.

What I've seen they start intentionally irritated each other using guilt trip and neglect both emotional needs. She starts throwing divorce tantrum at him and has been seeing other people. I don't know his, because she admits she doesn't care about his anymore so she doesn't try to find out.

What are their real problems actually based on the synastry or the composite? I've seen how their personality clash although they have some conjunction or same planet signs here and there.

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Faith
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posted January 08, 2017 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know but this doesn't speak well of Pluto conjunct IC in composite and one wonders what they are even doing.

Maybe her moon conjunct his Pluto, that's keeping them together? Plus, Mars conjunct Mars, I think they tend to act in unison and feel like even if it's crazy, they're both similarly crazy (with respect to their approach to marriage, anyway), so it just keeps going.

If he gave her a black eye, and she threatens divorce, I don't consider that a "tantrum," I consider it smart.

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hearttreasure
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posted January 08, 2017 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yeah, I'm thinking about their moon/pluto and his Taurus who doesn't want to change anything although their relationship sour. Her parents gave them a home and pay all the bills of their kids school fee. Their kids spend most of their time at her parents home rather than at their home.

She then works to help him with her family supports. She felt used until years he doesn't do anything to improve their families life. Her family still supports their life in almost 10 years.

She wants him to process the divorce but he doesn't move at all from the home.

They fell in love intensely at first like blindly but then I have found how power play and manipulation come within time. Guilt trip, passive aggressiveness and how both try to intentionally irritate each other just to see the reaction in how they approach problems surely **** my Aries moon (although from the outside their marriage seems FINE) but who am I coming in the middle of their marriage?

I came to study their synastry and composite, but having less knowledge than the expert here. Do you think they have another chances?

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Elysia
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posted January 08, 2017 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even without the astrology that's a situation one should get away from as soon as possible. I've seen it play out in real life, many times. It's worse for the kids involved.

The adults are somewhat better equipped to deal with the massive emotional drain that happens in such relationships. Kids are defenseless. Neither they nor their parents will realize the toll this has taken on them until years later, and it won't be fixable then.

I hope for their sake that the parents find an amicable solution or a separation that gives them some peace of mind.

(Not good at reading synastry/composite, but will try to come back when I have more time to look at it and add comments on that. Sorry this post has no astrology! I just read your OP and comment above - and it just hit me, that I have to say something).

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Ceridwen
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posted January 09, 2017 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:

If he gave her a black eye, and she threatens divorce, I don't consider that a "tantrum," I consider it smart.


I second that.

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browncoat
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posted January 10, 2017 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an expert and I'm genuinely not trying to be critical ... I personally struggle to look at both synastry and composite without knowing the exact birth times for both people. I think just 30 minutes can make a considerable difference, especially with the angles.

Either way, this sounds like quite a toxic environment. Both need to be accountable for this space. Pointing fingers and blaming the other for victimizing them, trying to get "even" is just a path to destruction.

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hearttreasure
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posted January 10, 2017 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by browncoat:

Either way, this sounds like quite a toxic environment. Both need to be accountable for this space. Pointing fingers and blaming the other for victimizing them, trying to get "even" is just a path to destruction.

Yes. I've told her that.

To be honest I still want her to survive her marriage.

I'm at hospital for days, can't write long. Will add some

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browncoat
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posted January 10, 2017 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for browncoat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hearttreasure:
To be honest I still want her to survive her marriage.

Sigh. I always struggle in this area.

On one hand I completely support the sanctity of marriage and the growth it can bring two people. I think that's the whole point. The outcome of working through the garbage reaps great rewards not found elsewhere...as it requires doing the inner work. Partners are there to simply reflect back to ourselves what we're creating.

On the other hand, it's painful to see two people in a toxic environment, and perpetuating it, who may (or may not) be better off in a different energetic space, either with someone else or even nobody.

My heart goes out to you hearttreasure.

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