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ScorpieScorp
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posted January 17, 2017 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I work with this guy...I've only known him 4 months...I didn't even notice him that much in the beginning..but lately I HAVE. And every time I talk with him, he slips in some sexual innuendo...he lives a very promiscious life hence why I don't engage (besides the fact I work with him)...sometimes he wonders why I'm not in the office, other times, it seems like he doesn't even notice me.

I'm sure he thinks the same about me...but I'm a Scorpio. We disguise our feelings at all times until ready to fall....

His birthtime is unknown nor exact birthplace. I'm on the inside...


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posted January 18, 2017 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 19, 2017 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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posted January 20, 2017 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
first off, with pluto on the vertex axis conjunct the ascendant , this is a very "unworldly" connection. it mikes me think that you and he had a strong past life connection.so the
lessons" to be experienced and learned may not be applicable to this life time. that is to say it seems unresolved situations in the past life are the focus.
practically speaking with pluto on the ascednatn .the relationship is chatacterized by a underlying selfishness. usually this doomas any real intimacy and emotional bonding but as I have said there may be past life/unconscious dynamics leading this relationship.
with the sun/moon/node conjunction, the "paranormal; aspect is again brought out.
ideally, this pattern would indicate that you and he are "One", that is you sense and respond to external stimuli in exactly the same manner.

the sun square to Uranus shows a strong connection on the dream/astral planes. tis would go along with the feeling that a past life is affecting this relationship.
practically this shows a astral/psychic connection between t you with common dreams and communication through dreams.but this is very unstable normally.though it would show the past live experiences are intimately connected to present day feelings.
the vertex/ascendant/pluto show that ,though you are different people, there have been many similar unusual or synchronistic experiences in your lives that tended to have identical impressions on you both. often the specificity of your "paranormal experiences" tend by themselves to give a sense that the relationship is somehow destined.

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posted January 20, 2017 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
first off, with pluto on the vertex axis conjunct the ascendant , this is a very "unworldly" connection. it mikes me think that you and he had a strong past life connection.so the
lessons" to be experienced and learned may not be applicable to this life time. that is to say it seems unresolved situations in the past life are the focus.
practically speaking with pluto on the ascednatn .the relationship is chatacterized by a underlying selfishness. usually this doomas any real intimacy and emotional bonding but as I have said there may be past life/unconscious dynamics leading this relationship.
with the sun/moon/node conjunction, the "paranormal; aspect is again brought out.
ideally, this pattern would indicate that you and he are "One", that is you sense and respond to external stimuli in exactly the same manner.

the sun square to Uranus shows a strong connection on the dream/astral planes. tis would go along with the feeling that a past life is affecting this relationship.
practically this shows a astral/psychic connection between t you with common dreams and communication through dreams.but this is very unstable normally.though it would show the past live experiences are intimately connected to present day feelings.
the vertex/ascendant/pluto show that ,though you are different people, there have been many similar unusual or synchronistic experiences in your lives that tended to have identical impressions on you both. often the specificity of your "paranormal experiences" tend by themselves to give a sense that the relationship is somehow destined.

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Thank you so much Todd! Wow you are good, I see why people post your name all over the boards asking for your insights.

Would these placements be accurate given that I don't know his birthtime? I'm assuming you are looking only at the composite.


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posted January 20, 2017 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
first off, with pluto on the vertex axis conjunct the ascendant , this is a very "unworldly" connection. it mikes me think that you and he had a strong past life connection.so the
lessons" to be experienced and learned may not be applicable to this life time. that is to say it seems unresolved situations in the past life are the focus.
practically speaking with pluto on the ascednatn .the relationship is chatacterized by a underlying selfishness. usually this doomas any real intimacy and emotional bonding but as I have said there may be past life/unconscious dynamics leading this relationship.
with the sun/moon/node conjunction, the "paranormal; aspect is again brought out.
ideally, this pattern would indicate that you and he are "One", that is you sense and respond to external stimuli in exactly the same manner.

the sun square to Uranus shows a strong connection on the dream/astral planes. tis would go along with the feeling that a past life is affecting this relationship.
practically this shows a astral/psychic connection between t you with common dreams and communication through dreams.but this is very unstable normally.though it would show the past live experiences are intimately connected to present day feelings.
the vertex/ascendant/pluto show that ,though you are different people, there have been many similar unusual or synchronistic experiences in your lives that tended to have identical impressions on you both. often the specificity of your "paranormal experiences" tend by themselves to give a sense that the relationship is somehow destined.

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I don't feel that one of you is more attracted to the other. it seems like a balanced relationship.

the composite stellium mercury,jupiter/mars/moon/node makes me think that you first started to recognized the common psychic connection in nov and December.
currently the node is transiting the Jupiter/mars/moon portion of the composite. this really makes me think you and he are going to become a committed relationship.
it seems that in may if not before a commitment will be made. it could be a marriage commitment.
but keep in mind that the lessons are karmic/spiritual and not so much emotional.

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posted January 20, 2017 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
I don't feel that one of you is more attracted to the other. it seems like a balanced relationship.

the composite stellium mercury,jupiter/mars/moon/node makes me think that you first started to recognized the common psychic connection in nov and December.
currently the node is transiting the Jupiter/mars/moon portion of the composite. this really makes me think you and he are going to become a committed relationship.
it seems that in may if not before a commitment will be made. it could be a marriage commitment.
but keep in mind that the lessons are karmic/spiritual and not so much emotional.

todd


Whoa marriage? I don't know about that, we aren't even friends right now. You are right, I did start to notice him more in the past 2 months.

But I do feel some sort of energy when I'm around him--it is intense and sometimes a bit suffocating. He's also serious all the time, and there seems to be a wall between us, but not if that makes sense.

Does he feel this energy as well?

He's not looking for anything committal right now--he's having fun sleeping around.

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posted January 21, 2017 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything from the Synastry?

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posted January 21, 2017 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Whoa marriage? I don't know about that, we aren't even friends right now. You are right, I did start to notice him more in the past 2 months.

But I do feel some sort of energy when I'm around him--it is intense and sometimes a bit suffocating. He's also serious all the time, and there seems to be a wall between us, but not if that makes sense.

Does he feel this energy as well?

He's not looking for anything committal right now--he's having fun sleeping around.


I agree that the emotional /sexual aspects are not the most obvious but the karmic connections will become stronger as may approaches.

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posted January 21, 2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Thank you so much Todd! Wow you are good, I see why people post your name all over the boards asking for your insights.

Would these placements be accurate given that I don't know his birthtime? I'm assuming you are looking only at the composite.

he lack of birth time would change the ascendant but the power of th vertex/p;luto conjunction would still be very strong and significant.
in a composite with 1 unknown birth time, the moons position will have a 3 degree variation. in this composite moving the moon 3 degrees or 1.5 degrees to either side, would still place the moon within the stellium so the comments relating to the moon would remain viable regardless of not knowing his exact time or birth.

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posted January 22, 2017 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:

Hi, looks like the Pluto is opposite Vertex, still as fated as you are saying?

When I change his birthtime, Pluto does not always aspect Vertex..

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posted January 22, 2017 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
Hi, looks like the Pluto is opposite Vertex, still as fated as you are saying?

When I change his birthtime, Pluto does not always aspect Vertex..


your correct, the vertex also changes....
actually disregarding the vertex does not change the fated nature of the relationship because you the node stellium. the vertex is a "blind force" in your chart but the node is where these unconscious energies and knowledge enter into this life time.so your node stellium actually is the place where the fated nature of the relationship erupts so to speak.
without the vertex ,one would expect the "paranormal" connections to be more easily understood and integrated into the relationship.
strong vertex aspect do not always enhance a relationship because of their unconscious dynamics.

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posted January 22, 2017 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
your correct, the vertex also changes....
actually disregarding the vertex does not change the fated nature of the relationship because you the node stellium. the vertex is a "blind force" in your chart but the node is where these unconscious energies and knowledge enter into this life time.so your node stellium actually is the place where the fated nature of the relationship erupts so to speak.
without the vertex ,one would expect the "paranormal" connections to be more easily understood and integrated into the relationship.
strong vertex aspect do not always enhance a relationship because of their unconscious dynamics.

todd


What do you mean by paranormal connection? Can you describe that feeling a little more?

I do see in the Synastry we do have a Pluto/Vertex aspect, along with his Saturn right smack on top of my Pluto/NN.

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posted January 23, 2017 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi--didn't mean to just put Todd's name in the title, would love to hear from anyone...

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posted January 23, 2017 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
What do you mean by paranormal connection? Can you describe that feeling a little more?

I do see in the Synastry we do have a Pluto/Vertex aspect, along with his Saturn right smack on top of my Pluto/NN.


paranormal implies the unworldly similarities you have with him and the uncanny similarity in emotional sensitivity and intuition.

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posted January 27, 2017 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it, thank you Todd. It makes my day when people respond to my posts...

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posted January 27, 2017 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScorpieScorp:
What do you mean by paranormal connection? Can you describe that feeling a little more?

I do see in the Synastry we do have a Pluto/Vertex aspect, along with his Saturn right smack on top of my Pluto/NN.


interesting that the composite puto/vertex is likely incorrect yet the synastry with him has the pluto/vertex conjunction.intriguing,is it possible to find his exact time of birth?

Saturn on your pluto/node couple with the vertex/pluto aspect certainly suggest a past life connection.

these synastry aspect mirror what I have already mentioned in the composite.

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posted January 27, 2017 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
interesting that the composite puto/vertex is likely incorrect yet the synastry with him has the pluto/vertex conjunction.intriguing,is it possible to find his exact time of birth?

Saturn on your pluto/node couple with the vertex/pluto aspect certainly suggest a past life connection.

these synastry aspect mirror what I have already mentioned in the composite.

todd


Hi, well, once we get to be more friends vs. just co-workers, I will DEF try and get his birth time. It's always a weird question to ask, when you are not close.

His Co-partner and I are having issues, and I feel his energy too. Do you think there is a past life connection with him too?

I put up his chart in the thread "Will I have issues with this person"...do you mind looking at it? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/006512.html

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Sorry Scorpie, hope you don't mind me jumping in with a quick question.
Todd, what might happen if the transiting NN comes up to conjunct composite Saturn? These two are not together yet but are feeling a strong pull towards one another. Then in another little while it will conjunct the composite sun/Mercury.

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posted January 27, 2017 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry Scorpie, hope you don't mind me jumping in with a quick question.
Todd, what might happen if the transiting NN comes up to conjunct composite Saturn? These two are not together yet but are feeling a strong pull towards one another. Then in another little while it will conjunct the composite sun/Mercury.

Hi, the more the merrier. I put up a screen shot of the NN transiting on the composite...(changed the birth time, don't be confused in the change of houses, I don't know his birth time).

However, looks trNN already passed Saturn...it's on Jupiter and Mars right now, headed towards cNN.

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posted January 28, 2017 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sorry Scorpie, hope you don't mind me jumping in with a quick question.
Todd, what might happen if the transiting NN comes up to conjunct composite Saturn? These two are not together yet but are feeling a strong pull towards one another. Then in another little while it will conjunct the composite sun/Mercury.

you know EmGem it is very difficult to delineate from a single aspect.
the transitting node to the composite Saturn can go either very good or very bad dependning on the associated aspects.
but alone,it wills how a "psychic bond" betrween them and/or it will make their auras very strong. for good or bad. they will either fall deeper into each other or they tension will develop that tends top separate them.with Saturn, one must look out for the male becoming too aggressive and controlling. If the relationship is generally in good shape before the transit then this transit could open, their common world and interest ,up. it can be an aspect of material success or mundane influence.
when the sun/mercury conjunctin is reached, their true feeling about each other will come out.so again it depends on what the rest of the chart shows to figure out how this transit will affect them.
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posted January 28, 2017 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm

a somewhat confusing composite as there seems to be both attractive and repulsive aspects simultaneously .
but starting wit Pluto on the descendant square to the sun to 10 arc minutes, I won't expect this to evolve into to a positive friendship. the composite is all about selfish motives and since as you have mentioned he already mistrusts you, I don't think it will change.
but it is paradoxical, for instance the harsh pluto/sun squares shows unrelenting competitions with each other but at the same time the Jupiter/moon conjunction is sextile to Pluto and trine to Neptune . this suggest a very good professional relationship. it shows sensitivity to each other ideas and a potential for a very productive professional output.
the sun square pluto,as stated is quite selfish but here the sun is sextile to Uranus and trine to Saturn . this suggest a very good professional relationship as both are far sighted and proficient intheir work. it shows good fortune in business endeavors together. Uranus sextile to Saturn suggest the differences between you can be overcome.
with the mercury/venus conjunction, it would be expected that you get along well as this onjuction is trine to the node showing a affectionate feeling toward each other as well as a excellent mental connection.with chiron trine the node and trine to mercury and venus, the professional relationship could be quite profitable as you and he can come up with excellent problem solving skills and even better ability to resolve any problems that arise.this pattern shows you both to be very intelligent and inquisitive with good social skills.

Venus is square to midheaven so I would have thought there was a spark of attraction when you first met each other.

but Uranus is square to Jupiter and the midpoint is square to venus, so I think the completion and mistrust is going to be too much to over come. the Uranus/Jupiter square implies you won't be working on the same material in the future.

I don't think any good can come from edgy him on. try to put space between yourself and him.
the attractive spark has already turned to completion so I would just be professional about this chart and go on and don't try to change or influence him.

you can't help it if you can't help it.

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posted January 28, 2017 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hmmm

a somewhat confusing composite as there seems to be both attractive and repulsive aspects simultaneously .
but starting wit Pluto on the descendant square to the sun to 10 arc minutes, I won't expect this to evolve into to a positive friendship. the composite is all about selfish motives and since as you have mentioned he already mistrusts you, I don't think it will change.
but it is paradoxical, for instance the harsh pluto/sun squares shows unrelenting competitions with each other but at the same time the Jupiter/moon conjunction is sextile to Pluto and trine to Neptune . this suggest a very good professional relationship. it shows sensitivity to each other ideas and a potential for a very productive professional output.
the sun square pluto,as stated is quite selfish but here the sun is sextile to Uranus and trine to Saturn . this suggest a very good professional relationship as both are far sighted and proficient intheir work. it shows good fortune in business endeavors together. Uranus sextile to Saturn suggest the differences between you can be overcome.
with the mercury/venus conjunction, it would be expected that you get along well as this onjuction is trine to the node showing a affectionate feeling toward each other as well as a excellent mental connection.with chiron trine the node and trine to mercury and venus, the professional relationship could be quite profitable as you and he can come up with excellent problem solving skills and even better ability to resolve any problems that arise.this pattern shows you both to be very intelligent and inquisitive with good social skills.

Venus is square to midheaven so I would have thought there was a spark of attraction when you first met each other.

but Uranus is square to Jupiter and the midpoint is square to venus, so I think the completion and mistrust is going to be too much to over come. the Uranus/Jupiter square implies you won't be working on the same material in the future.

I don't think any good can come from edgy him on. try to put space between yourself and him.
the attractive spark has already turned to completion so I would just be professional about this chart and go on and don't try to change or influence him.

you can't help it if you can't help it.

todd


Hi Todd--which chart you are referring to? This one or the one on the other thread?

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posted January 29, 2017 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I just realized both of these guys have Pluto/venus aspects in their natal...and I have DW P/V with both...so does this mean they don't even feel it?

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posted January 30, 2017 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
you know EmGem it is very difficult to delineate from a single aspect.
the transitting node to the composite Saturn can go either very good or very bad dependning on the associated aspects.
but alone,it wills how a "psychic bond" betrween them and/or it will make their auras very strong. for good or bad. they will either fall deeper into each other or they tension will develop that tends top separate them.with Saturn, one must look out for the male becoming too aggressive and controlling. If the relationship is generally in good shape before the transit then this transit could open, their common world and interest ,up. it can be an aspect of material success or mundane influence.
when the sun/mercury conjunctin is reached, their true feeling about each other will come out.so again it depends on what the rest of the chart shows to figure out how this transit will affect them.
todd

Thank you Todd

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