posted January 23, 2017 05:12 PM            

there are two aspects that are difficult to build a relationship around.
mars is square to pluto and Saturn is square to urnaus.
mars/pluto is essential selfish and uncaring, interested only in physical/sexual matters.
Saturn/urnaus marks a relationship as unstable with no chance for a serious hookup.this aspect also shows him to be against commitment .mercury is also opposed to pluto with usually shows that there is no deep communication when you talk about serious issues.

with the sun/venus conjunction sextile to the moon/Jupiter conjunction, there is a very nice affection between you and these aspect are favorable for a serious relationship when there are no hard aspects such as this chart also has.

posted January 23, 2017 07:39 PM            

It is no surprise that you clash but maybe you can find a way to ease the intensity.

This person is a Leo Sun/Moon with a lot of fixed placements plus Mars aspects which probably means they are very stubborn and maybe even combative and self-absorbed. They can have trouble taking perspective and they may "see" people (loved ones especially) as extensions of themselves instead of separate individuals who think for themselves.

This is probably very difficult for you as you are a Cancer Sun/Scorpio Moon and therefore deeply emotional. Things may "stick" with you, hard feelings are easily formed and difficult to resolve. You probably have a deeper insight into things (especially psychological/relationship related) and you see where your partner is wrong, deluded and overstepping their boundaries. It is also worth noting that the Leo's outer planets form a lot of aspects to your personal planets so it may feel like they have some kind of upper hand on you and they are the dominant force in the relationship dynamic which can be aggravating.

My advice is this - instead of trying to fight the energy between you and turn the dynamic around just go with it. Instead of being defensive, be vulnerable (will elaborate on this). The ego battle has to die and somebody has to take high-road. I know it is very difficult to step down in situations where you feel wronged and compelled to prove and establish yourself again but this will only make "the strain" more intense. Before you can reclaim yourself, the aggressiveness needs to be stopped.

If you get into a petty fight think - Does this really matter? Can I let this go? Will it hurt anything else besides my ego if I step down? If it's not an important issue there is no harm in just letting it slide. Leo is a prideful sign and even if it's blatantly obvious how stupid they are, sometimes you just have to let them have their moments even if you know better - like with children.

Now if the situation/problem is serious and you CANNOT let it go do this - instead of fighting with them, be vulnerable. Tell them how you are feeling, tell them why you are upset but not in an aggressive way, show your heart and their reaction will tell you everything you need to know about this relationship and their attitude towards you.

If you put yourself out there heart laid bare and they continue to be aggressive then what is even the point of all of this? They do not care, they do not respect your feelings and they have no empathy. Their love is a sham and there is no point for you to tolerate this behavior towards yourself.

The good news is that what I described above happens very rarely - it happens with people who are truly damaged and immature. Most people are good. They are just so cough up in surviving and protecting themselves that they have forgotten that the essence of humanity is love. If your Leo is a decent person who love you, when you show your vulnerable wounded side and they realize they are not being attacked it should immediately disarm them. They should soften up and shower you with love and affection which Leo has that in abundance.

When the aggression is defused you have clearance for communication - this person is a Virgo Mercury after all so they should be reasonable when their ego is out of the way. After healing your feelings you can talk out the problems which are bothering you and finally reestablish yourself.

You have many sexually fueled aspects too - do not let that go to waist. Sexual healing can be a powerful tool. After you defuse aggression, heal feelings, have a stimulating conversation go for some physical affection as well. That will not only purge negativity but it will pout in some life force into your bond and make you remember why you're together in the first place and why you love each other.

posted January 24, 2017 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by margym0o:
Can you post charts using http://www.astro.com/cgi/genchart.cgi?lang=e instead? Easier to read

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posted January 24, 2017 08:21 AM            

Everything was right that you mentioned in your reply. I really appreciate your help.

posted April 28, 2017 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
hi Claudine

there are two aspects that are difficult to build a relationship around.
mars is square to pluto and Saturn is square to urnaus.
mars/pluto is essential selfish and uncaring, interested only in physical/sexual matters.
Saturn/urnaus marks a relationship as unstable with no chance for a serious hookup.this aspect also shows him to be against commitment .mercury is also opposed to pluto with usually shows that there is no deep communication when you talk about serious issues.

with the sun/venus conjunction sextile to the moon/Jupiter conjunction, there is a very nice affection between you and these aspect are favorable for a serious relationship when there are no hard aspects such as this chart also has.

todd

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Hello again todd!
Sorry, but I can't find aspects you are talking about.
Could you check the sinastry chart from astro.com again?

posted April 28, 2017 01:07 PM            

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They are very intelligent and have very logical mind, but lack of empathy, so this is the problem.
(At the same time, they have constant principles in being committed to one person, for example, in addition to intelligence and moral principles. As a commentary to the reply)
And yes, it is easier for them to show their affection in more practical way.
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posted May 06, 2017 06:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
This description here points to a Virgo Moon . So at least we can assume he was born in the evening hours when Moon moved from Leo to Birgo

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Hello! I'll give it a thought, thank you!

posted May 06, 2017 03:49 PM            

There's bound to be issues there that you need to work through; childhood & past life pain to release. Unfortunately with tough personal planet to Pluto configurations there will always be great psychological work that needs to be done. It makes you wonderfully psychic and empathic too though, the older you get the more that will triumph :-)

Anyway with his Mars conjunct your Venus and opposing that Moon-Pluto I bet the passion was off the charts when you met!! It's now after...I'm guessing you've passed the year or 18 month mark...that the reality of your differences and fears are kicking in.

He IS very different, especially if his Moon is actually in Leo. Sun-Moon's can be self-absorbed at the best of times, in Leo he's going to want the world to revolve around him. Maybe with a Cancer Sun you can do that!! Since the only aspect you have to his Sun is a Pluto square however, I'm seriously doubting you allow for such self-indulgence on his part!!

posted May 08, 2017 05:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Iridia:
Hi. I can see the fights in your synastry: his Mars opposite your Pluto-Moon, your Pluto square his Sun, his Moon conjunct your Chiron or Mars, your Uranus conjunct his Saturn, your Moons possibly square. Pluto-Mars and Moon-Mars aspects can be attractors (particularly on a sexual level) but if they're hard, things can easily get hard too. I'm also not surprised that it's difficult to let go of this relationship: his Venus and NN on your ASC-DSC axis, your Venus conjunct his Mars, your Mercury conjunct his Jupiter, your Jupiter sextile his Venus, Saturns aspecting the luminaries, his Saturn trine your Venus etc. Unfortunately, not knowing his complete chart makes it difficult to create a strategy based on astrology.

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posted May 08, 2017 06:27 AM            

VERY
(and it's a real problem since it irritates my partner a lot, even if I try to hide it as deep as I can)
I've had a topic on these forums on this issue.
I can't trust this person fully, my mind just goes its own way, regardless reality.
I've had this issue with my friends sometimes too, it takes some time, but later I feel more confident and less paranoid. But I know my friend for a long time (with who I've had this problem). And I know my SO only for a year. (we are dating for ~10 months). Actually it's the longest I've been with someone in a romantic way...And it's the most serious relationships.
I mean I try to think logically, but sometimes I can't control my feelings. They are mostly inside though.

> It makes you wonderfully psychic and empathic too though, the older you get the more that will triumph :-)
I know what you mean on I have to work on this. I thought I could in this relationship, but I don't see that I'll get something from it in this particular situation. My empathy sometimes not needed. And my deep understanding and emotions as well. Anyway I feel that way, I am stuck rn.

>childhood & past life pain to release
Is it a thing of 12th house? and Moon?

Yeah, we are _very_ different, we appear like aliens for each other sometimes.
It's hard for me to be around Leo Sun\(Moon). I am very dedicated to person who I love and I really think as "we". But sometimes I feel that they are far more into their own life and on their part it sounds more like "I and you".
And I was said once that I'm taking away their freedom. It's sad to hear that since I always try to be democratic and respect personal life and private time...
See, lot of things going on, can't cover all of them.

So, we broke up few days ago. Maybe it's just a temporary break, but I have to decide something. I feel love, but I can't see peaceful future together. Idk really.

Thank you for your reply! Really appreciate it.
Your words made me think about some issues.

posted May 08, 2017 08:09 AM            

I feel for you, you sounds like a very warm compassionate soul and that Pluto stuff is difficult, I know.

It would be more suitable for you to be with a man who has a huge heart to match yours, and whilst Leo can be very kind and generous I'm not warming to the way it sounds like this guy treats you. Does he not realise that a kind, loving woman is the best gift a man can have? :-)

I know breaking up is really tough but if you see no possibility of joy and comfort with this man, it is for the best. For your fear of loss / rejection to be eased into a relationship you need somebody who you can talk to about it. I've had jealousy issues myself (Moon square Pluto) and have found that the best way to work with it is to really talk about what comes up, when it does. Most people can feel what you're thinking about them to some extent anyway, so a partner who is as open to growth and closeness and working through his issues would suit you best. Like I say a Scorpio, or somebody with a personal planet conjunct your Moon-Pluto could really support you in the way you need.

posted May 08, 2017 04:48 PM            

Thank you for your understanding and your kind words.
It's nice to know that someone can understand what's going on with this Pluto-Moon thing.
My partner tries to know me better (and I try to know them), but I cannot hope for deeper understanding. When I talk about jealousy, I only share my feelings and fear, but they hear it like I am trying to control their life. It's hard to explain that I just need to be heard.
But I really appreciate how they try to build a better relationship. You know I wouldn't stay for so long if it'd be nothing besides fights
And you can see from our synastry that we have some good connections as well. And this person is smart and kind and tries hard. I can see it.
But something cannot be changed unfortunately. As well as I can't be different person

I know that some people suit me better and for the other part they can find someone better than me too. I know it.
But something bring us together and we can't break up easily. As you can see.
I mean, it's not the first time when we talk about it. And we wanted to end all of this after some fight. ==
I think, the Nodes connection is real.

You helped me a lot. It is so supportive that I can talk to someone about this.

(I will keep in mind this Scorpio thing, because once I tried to understand what aspects in synastry would work for me )

Have a good day!