posted February 12, 2017 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
a person appreciates things you do for them?

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When somebody's Jupiter trine, sextile or conjunct your Moon, Sun or Venus. You appreciate the Jupiter person because they make you happy, even when they don't do Anything for you. Yeah, might not be fare (undeserved, unwarranted) but that's how these aspects work in synastry.

the person generally appreciates you?

posted February 12, 2017 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
When somebody's Jupiter trine, sextile or conjunct your Moon, Sun or Venus. You appreciate the Jupiter person because they make you happy, even when they don't do Anything for you. Yeah, might not be fare (undeserved, unwarranted) but that's how these aspects work in synastry.

[b]the person generally appreciates you?

Saturn person will always appreciate you when it makes sextile or trine to personal planets, conjunction as well. Saturn takes their other half seriously. This is why you need Saturn links for commitment.[/B]

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posted February 12, 2017 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Ok but what if it's just one persons Saturn that's involved? Like lets say if my Saturn makes aspects to someone else's personal planets. But their Saturn doesn't really make any aspects to my person planets?

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posted February 12, 2017 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Give me a bigger picture. What about Jupiter? What aspects do you have? And Saturn, no aspects at all?

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posted February 13, 2017 05:25 PM            

I assume you are the one who does things for him. It's enough to just look at your own chart. Moon in 6H, Mars in 10H + Venus in Pisces and Dsc possibly being in Pisces. You will shower people you love with great care, attention, devotion and love. The kind of care that's very practical, doing rather than talking. Maybe you can be very forgiving to your partner if you love them.

This guy, he's very different to you. He probably thinks he's very clever and you're not so much. This is the main difference between you: how you two express each other and how you think. You're very direct, with a good sense of humour. He cannot appreciate that. I don't know how long you two know each other..In the long term he will become quite critical of your style of communication, even the jokes you make (his Saturn in square to your Mercury Jupiter conjunction). Because he's got Mercury Uranus conjunction in Libra, he might think he's really clever and original, deep thinker. This quality at first will attract you, might really impress you but again, not in the long term because later, same thing that attracted you will irritate you, you will just disagree with his thinking (your Sun opposite his Mercury Uranus conjunction). I think this combination (your Mercury conjunction and his Mercury conjunction, in opposite signs) will create a situation when he will think you're dumb and shallow, and you will think him a stuck-up pretentious idiot. BUT it's the worst case scenario! It doesn't have to get that bad but it can.

As for your original question (sorry, I've actually gone off-topic), I don't see any prominent Jupiter aspects and I was hoping to find your Jupiter connect to any of his personal planets because of the following. Your Saturn conjunct his Moon and square his Venus. This might be too much for him because Saturn can feel suffocating and too doting. Be careful not to get in the trap you can't get out of. You are someone who wants to look after partner and derives pleasure out of doing so. He is very forceful and wants to have things his way. His partner will have to obey and 'serve' him, in relationship with him things will have to be exactly how he wants them to be. There will be no leeway. And you are probably too accommodating to say no to him but you really deserve to be appreciative. To be honest whoever you end up with needs to put you on a pedestal because you're so wonderful. Not everyone is capable of giving, far from it. You are.

posted February 13, 2017 05:37 PM            

Ok then ignore all these, in bold:

" Be careful not to get in the trap you can't get out of. You are someone who wants to look after partner and derives pleasure out of doing so. He is very forceful and wants to have things his way. His partner will have to obey and 'serve' him, in relationship with him things will have to be exactly how he wants them to be. There will be no leeway. And you are probably too accommodating to say no to him but you really deserve to be appreciative. To be honest whoever you end up with needs to put you on a pedestal because you're so wonderful. Not everyone is capable of giving. You are.

posted February 13, 2017 09:07 PM            

Also I think my DC is in Aquarius I have Mercury conjunct Jupiter though. I've read that people who have this aspect are usually intelligent.

posted February 14, 2017 09:47 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

he has Mercury square Saturn in his own chart. Being as though he has the square aspect in his own chart. The Mercury square Saturn aspect in our synastry shouldn't be so bad for him.

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posted February 14, 2017 10:31 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
"The Mercury square Saturn aspect in our synastry shouldn't be so bad for him. "

Oh, for him? No, it's not bad for him but it depends on how you see it. Your synastry will only encourage his Mercury-Saturn square. It's like 'great, now I can do what I do best - criticize and belittle her'

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posted February 14, 2017 10:35 AM            

So really what helps with this harsh aspect?

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I think quite the opposite. Mercury square Saturn is not a great aspect. It gives a pessimistic, judgemental and over-critical mindset. So you will be double hit with that! because his Saturn also squares your Mercury. He can make you feel like you're never good enough.

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posted February 14, 2017 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I wanted to learn more about Mercury sq Saturn. Thanks, CC, for the info. Does this make it hard for the person to have free self expression, too?

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Ami,

posted February 14, 2017 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Ami,

It can but it might not at all. We have to look at signs and houses this square falls into. What do you think? I don't like it in synastry but then I don't like Any of the Saturn squares in synastry. Square between Saturn and Mercury is still better than Saturn square to other personal planets.

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my personal experience so far, has been that if Saturn is supposed to square something in the synastry, it'd better be Mars. Saturn/moon or saturn/mercury are too harsh, on the planet person. Saturn/venus is still easier to handle.

I'd prefer a mars/saturn square to a moon/saturn trine.

posted February 14, 2017 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
my personal experience so far, has been that if Saturn is supposed to square something in the synastry, it'd better be Mars. Saturn/moon or saturn/mercury are too harsh, on the planet person. Saturn/venus is still easier to handle.

I'd prefer a mars/saturn square to a moon/saturn trine.

but at the end it highly depends on each person's natal chart, and other aspects in synastry as well.

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posted February 15, 2017 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
One aspect will never make or break any synastry. His Mercury Uranus conjunction falls into your 3H. What can be better than that for communication? BUT this placement itself doesn't tell us anything about quality of your verbal exchange. It just shows that people will want to engage into a lively communication with each other. His Mercury Sun opposite your Sun again shows an interest in each other, you will want to communicate. But it's an opposition, this now can tell you more about the quality. Your Saturn and Uranus sextile his conjunction. I feel like it's so much better for him than it is for you. You are more likely to accept him. Look at your Saturn and Uranus, they're in the sign of Sagittarius. Look at your Sun, it's in 9H - the house of Sagittarius again. Saturn - ruler of your 5H, Uranus - ruler of your 7H (if you're really Leo Asc), Sun - your chart ruler (1H). So his conjunction is touching the 'right' planets of yours (governing relationship/love houses) and even the worst response he might get from you (Merc Uranus opposite your Sun) is not going to be the worst at all because that Sun is in 9H, it's an optimistic, philosophical, understanding Sun. You are able to see different points of view and you will try to understand him. I wish we knew his time of birth than we could look deeper at how you affect him

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posted February 15, 2017 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
So what is the quality of our communication? You mentioned that that his Mercury and Sun are in opposition of my Sun shows the quality.

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I meant your Sun in opposition to his Mercury Uranus conjunction (not Sun Mercury, sorry).

Basically you can say that there's an incompatibility on intellectual level.
1) Sun opposite Mercury (which is part of his Mercury Uranus conjunction)
2) Mercury in opposite signs: your in Aries, his in Libra. Polarity that's not the easy to handle (unlike Sagittarius - Gemini for example)
3) Sun opposite Uranus (which is part of his Mercury Uranus conjunction)
4) Saturn square Mercury

You can read about all these separately but together they create a mismatch in your communication styles, your ideas, your opinions, how you think, how you verbally express yourself, etc etc. You (Sun) will not, for example understand his ideas (Mercury). Had your Sun been a little weaker (maybe in 7H, for example), then there would simply be a lack of understanding him on your side but because your Sun is not weak (it's a stubborn Taurus and it's in 9H which is a great house for Sun), not only you will not understand him, he will also irritate you. Add in his Uranus (opposition to your Sun) and he will also seem way too independent and cold for you, too original for your liking. And there's nothing you can do about that. Sun cannot change Uranus. Don't be surprised if you like everything I described above. I can imagine you admire all these qualities in him. But get to know him well (and I mean years, not months) and you might see a different picture.

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posted February 15, 2017 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
The Moon conjunct Mercury aspect in our composite wouldn't help with the harsh Mercury square Saturn in our synastry?

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