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rubynoir
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posted March 05, 2017 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,
I'd like some advice/insight to some experiences I've been having over the past few months if anybody could help me.
I was raised by my Grandmother my entire life and we still lived at home together until her sudden passing in December 2016.

Our relationship has always been beautiful, I consider her not only my Grandmother but my mother and best friend. I relied on her for absolutely everything, perhaps too much so and we've always had a strange way of finishing each other's sentences or I'd have a thought about something and when I tell her she says she thought the exact same thing recently. This was constant- like a psychic connection or something!

In September 2016 I had a dream that my Grandma was holding a newborn baby in a hospital, when I arrived in the ward she suddenly dropped to the ground and died. She then woke up, and then dropped again and I began to scream and cry for help.
Whenever I have dreams they tend to be so intense whatever I feel wakes me up - My boyfriend had to wake me up and hold me because I was crying and shaking in my sleep.


He was reassuring me that it was just a dream, admittedly a very strange one but had nothing to do with reality. I just felt that it was too odd to mean nothing.
I've never dreamt of my Grandma before to my knowledge when she was alive.

December 2016 - I was working on a painting upstairs and I was called down because my Grandma had dropped suddenly, in the same position that I had pictured in my dream.
She died shortly after the ambulance arrived.

Since her passing I've dreamt of her standing in an empty white room with her arms out to embrace me and last night I had a terrible dream of her lifeless body after decomposing she wakes up and tries to hug me. It was traumatising and she was freezing cold (I could feel the coldness in real life and it woke me up and I cried)

I've also had SEVERAL dreams in the past few weeks about myself being pregnant, being close to labour, pregnant with twins, being a mother to four children.

I honestly don't know what is happening to me but it's starting to affect my sleeping habits and I feel it will never stop.l Is she trying to contact me or tell me something?


My birthday is 29th July 1993
Time: 7:15am Coventry, England


Grandma: 20th July 1948
Time: Unknown
Kingston, Jamaica


Thank you xxx

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todd
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posted March 05, 2017 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi rubynoir
I looked over your charts and composite chart.
I use 12:00 for granma.
when two individuals have the same thoughts etc as you and she did, it is most often shows up as a node ascendant conjunction in the composite.
so for the composite to have a node/ascendant conjunction ,I set her birth hour to 7:50 am......and everything fell into place.
with this time ,her ascendant was 25 leo...you ascendant is 25 leo and the composite ascendant is 25 leo. you have chiron at 25 leo opposed to Saturn at 28leo.

her chart has the lilth axis at 26leo50 conjunct her ascendant and the composite ascendant has the south node conjunct the ascendant at 25 leo

in addition you both have eris square to mercury.
so it is clear to me that the dreams are not just coincidental as the Lilith axis and nodal axis connection shows positive astral/psychic connection.

I have to do more mathematical analysis of the dreams and her death before I can come to a conclusion.
but for the moment I will give you a few opinions about the nature of your dreams.

the one aspect that has me troubled is the dream you have where she is holding you and she is in a decomposed state, cold....
this is very troubling..... because this,may show that she wants you to join her in death.
you were correct to wake up.anytime a spirit who has past on tries to hold you in a dream, it lcan be an attempt to have you join them.
this may be surprising as you and she had so much love but it is not uncommon for a passed spouse etc to try to reunite with the loved one still on earth.
the meaning of the new born child is very complex in this series of dreams. i have to analysis the entire sequence before I can feel I could offer a accurate assessment .

but again my opinion is that she may be wanting you to become pregnant so that she can reenter this plane as the child. but these is so much darkness around birth of a child, that i am not sure really what is going on.it may be having a child right now would not be in your karmic interest but she wants you to have children for her to reincarnate.....I don't know... this is a complex and confusing situation. I thought I would give as much information as I can up to this point.

I will post more about your situation when I have checked out the death date and dream dates etc....

todd

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posted March 06, 2017 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sylven     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!

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rubynoir
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posted March 06, 2017 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Todd that is amazing, if it's any help she died on 2nd of December 2016 at 19:30pm

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posted March 06, 2017 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:
Thank you so much Todd that is amazing, if it's any help she died on 2nd of December 2016 at 19:30pm

this time will be very helpful where was her death?????
I am still analyzing these charts so I don't want to make any premature statements.
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posted March 06, 2017 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi ruby

I place her death chart at conventry for now.
the angles will change will the exact place death.
but some very amazing aspects have shown up looking at you chart and the death chart for granma.

on the day of death the sun was at 11sag4 square to orcus at 9vir9 and square to Neptune at9 pisc17 and square the node at 7virg22. so the sun at 11sag4 is exactly conjunct your node at 10sag53 to 11 marc minutes.

this clearly shows the energies of her death direct "entering in to your psychic/karmic awareness.this by itself would explain why her spirit is affecting you, but it is even stronger because your moon is at i5sag39, square your Lilith at 16pisce24.on the death moment the vertex was at 15sag34........exactly conjunct your moon and square your Lilith. This shows the karmic energy of her death direct when into your moon, subconscious emotions and went into your Lilith which is the primal focus of all emotional awareness.
clearly you dreams are not imaginary but you granma's soul is directly trying to influence you destiny and life's situation.
a soul upon death can live in a nether plane. the soul can retain all feelings and memories of the past life and can at ties psychically influence the present reality. so it seems that this is the case with your granma's spirit.
so these data tends to reinforce my opinions.... she is tryiny to influence you with regard to having a child. and though I still can't calim for sure... it seems she wants ot reincarnate as your child.
but again there is too much darkness in this entire affair for me to feel this would be good for your soul.but again that is a opinion og mine unsubstantiated by astrological analysis for now.
any way it seem the analysis is on the right foot. I still have togo over the dates of your dreams and composites of the death date etc
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posted March 07, 2017 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi rubynoir
is there anyway to rememebr which day in September you had the dream about her?

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rubynoir
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posted March 08, 2017 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
hi rubynoir
is there anyway to rememebr which day in September you had the dream about her?

todd


Hi Todd, I had the dream on early morning on the 23rd of September 2016

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posted March 08, 2017 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi ruby
the dream date definitely shows she was communicating to you as on that morning the node was conjunct to mercury and these were square to your moon/node conjunction and Saturn was conjunct your node and Neptune square your node.

pluot was square to Lilith that morning and pluto was opposed the composite mercury.... so the darkness of death is shown.

I still do not understand the connection to children.... I will have to mull this over some more
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posted March 13, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi rubynoir

okay I decided to place the ateriod child in these charts to seem if it made sense.and it seems to make sense

in you grmas chart child is at 2aries 6.
in your chart child is at olibra4, opposed to your grams child.

in the drean chart child is conjunct the ndoe and therefore square you natal node

in gram death chart child is at 10pisce 53 square you node.

in the composite child is conjuct to orcus and square the moon/pluto midpoint and square you natal mercury/Uranus-Neptune-vertex opposition.

the only conclusion I can draw is that your child will be the reincarnation of your gram.
this leads me to speculate thatyou may have already been her mother in a past ilfe.

but I am still bothered bythe negative decomposing aspect of your dream. it just doesn't seem that the emotional of fear would be there .

you might think about going under regression hypnotic therapy to try to understand what all these synchronistic events mean.

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posted April 16, 2017 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Todd,

I'm not sure why I'm only just seeing this response now but thank you so much. I am definitely not ready to have children but I do feel so much better knowing I share this connection with her and she has been present with me in some way...

I wish I had a way to see/meet her as and when I like during dreams but it seems sporadic recently, I haven't seen her since the last pregnancy dream.

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posted April 16, 2017 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First I am going to set astrology aside for a moment and help you interpret your dreams as in going into your subconscious and figuring out what is going on. ( Sigmund Freud) I am not the best at this and only a student of psychology but I have read a lot on dream interpretation and also had a psychologist help me with my own dreams.

Your grandmother holding a baby then dropping it. First the mind puts a face to certain parts of the self. (Yin and Yang , male and female parts to someone's self. )

Seeing your grandmother just means that your mind put a face to that part of your self that you relate to her. The baby usually represents and idea of some kind. Being pregnant means to be growing this idea inside of you. Her being dead, decayed and cold is just probably more or less your mind dealing with her death, probably dealing with the idea that since you two were so close that you too one day will die, as this is a scary thought to us all. Why not just dream of yourself dyeing if this were the case, your body seeks to preserve itself and is selfish in that way, including the subconcous mind. To think of yourself or dream of your own death may be too hard for your mind to deal with given the death of your grandmother as well. Your mind will preserve you but dreams are your minds way of healing and working out repressed issues that you can not deal with at the moment , even though they are there.

If this was your actual grandmother in your dream trying to contact you , she would not scare you as I am sure she loved you very very much. Even if she was trying to warn you, it would not come as this. I am thinking your dreams are due to something you are dealing with in a stressful level. I had a friend who dreamed she was going to have this guy she was seeing baby. This dream was just a representation of that she wanted to have a future with him, not nescissarly his baby. Unfortunately this did not happen. So your dream could have been a thought about your future and something inside yourself that you related to your grandmother, ( ah ha moment) maybe this is your own worry about having children of your own or something to that nature. Maybe you have an inner question of will you be able to live up to who your grandmother is to your own children , especially since you two were close and you do not mention your mom. ( this is ok no matter the circumstance, completely normal and human)

The mind works in mysterious ways, try writing your dreams down and then look at this website dream moods.com to interpret them. Anyway, once you do this and relate more to what goes on in the suncontious, once your mind works threw whatever it is trying to work threw, your dreams stop.

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posted April 16, 2017 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this helps here is my own dream that I had once: When I had my oldest daughter , I dreamed of her dead and decaying in the ground. This steamed from the fear of being a new mom and since my own inner child didn't get a chance to be an actual child, in some way the two issues combined forming in a dream of seeing my child dead. I was terrified that she would die as a baby and cried sometimes because the dream was so real in my head. I never told anyone this because I don't trust others to understand these things, oh and having OCD didn't help at all!!!!


She is now about to complete her Freshman year in college and is so grown. I am so proud of her , how well mannered she is, how she handles the world, how brave she is to move away from home to follow her dreams, how she applied for her own scholarships for school, how she manages her money, just everything she is as well as my other two who are in high school. So even though the fear was there of I might not be a good parent because of my own parents and upbringing. Turns out I did a wonderful job although not perfect, my kids love me dearly and are very good kids . Weird how my mind twisted things that I was dealing with into a dream as scary as this . ( I wish it would have just had a voice in my dream going aye, you!!! Your scared &*(^ of being a new mom, don't worry about it you'll be alright!) Hope this helps !!!

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posted April 16, 2017 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I am not sure how true reincarnation is but you can look it up. I saw this one story of this girl's grandmother dyeing and she said when I come back I want to be a boy. the grandmother died and the child put a mark of white paint on her neck. The daughter later had a child , a boy with a birthmark of the same stripe that she had marked her grandmother with. The boy had an unusual attachment to her grandmothers things and knew things that were things only her grandmother would know. In a spiritual sense, maybe your grandmother will be one of your own children.

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posted April 19, 2017 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
Also, I am not sure how true reincarnation is but you can look it up. I saw this one story of this girl's grandmother dyeing and she said when I come back I want to be a boy. the grandmother died and the child put a mark of white paint on her neck. The daughter later had a child , a boy with a birthmark of the same stripe that she had marked her grandmother with. The boy had an unusual attachment to her grandmothers things and knew things that were things only her grandmother would know. In a spiritual sense, maybe your grandmother will be one of your own children.

Hi Colorful Butterly,

Thank you for taking the time to help me interpret! I actually did browse dreammoods.com initially and the thing about giving birth to an idea of some sort does make a lot of sense and your own fear/anxiety of being a new mom is also something I can really relate to.

I would like more than anything to settle down with a decent man and have a family of my own like she did at my age. Her passing has accentuated these worries as I'm almost 24 and still studying at University and have jumped from one toxic short relationship into the next year after year and I'm embarrased....

It's amazing what the mind can do! X

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posted April 22, 2017 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:
Hi Colorful Butterly,

Thank you for taking the time to help me interpret! I actually did browse dreammoods.com initially and the thing about giving birth to an idea of some sort does make a lot of sense and your own fear/anxiety of being a new mom is also something I can really relate to.

I would like more than anything to settle down with a decent man and have a family of my own like she did at my age. Her passing has accentuated these worries as I'm almost 24 and still studying at University and have jumped from one toxic short relationship into the next year after year and I'm embarrased....

It's amazing what the mind can do! X


Your welcome hun!!!! I hope things work out with the interpretations of things in the future and your mind settles with ease.

As far as toxic relationships , we all go threw them or we wouldn't have this wonderful section for Interpersonal Astrology here and everyone trying to figure out what is what. lol 24 is still very young , I am sure things will come to you in time. Maybe looking up toxic people and how to avoid them , after a few of them you start to realize them avoiding them in the long run.

If you need anymore help with things let me know, I'll try to get to it as soon as I can or ask Randall for my email.

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posted April 27, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for helping out!

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posted April 29, 2017 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Thanks for helping out!

Your welcome Randall, glad I was able to

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posted May 14, 2017 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appeciate it.

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