posted March 07, 2017 01:05 PM            

Without these details we would never move beyond very generalized cookbook readings. May as well just revert back to Sun sign astrology at that point.

However this takes a lot of time and mental energy that not everyone is appreciative of.

Something else commonly looked over are the houses your natal planets fall into. Just as you say aspects paint your personality, so do the houses they fall in.

I imagine this is a big reason why a Pisces like me attracts so many fiery people. A good majority of my natal falls into the 5th and 9th houses.

So an individual with a Scorpio Moon in the 3rd could be attracted to a Gem Sun in the 8th with seemingly no explanantion if you dont pay attention to the natals.

posted March 08, 2017 09:28 PM            

Yes!!! I think is important to look at least into contacts to sun,moon and venus

and like you said: where they are placed(the houses).Of course often times is impossible due to the lack of TOB but then there's the contacts in natal chart.

Pisces moon - Sagittarius moon

An aspect that very likely produce emotional conflicts but if the sagittarius person has their moon in 12th house they can have a good emotional understanding.

Capricorn moon - Cancer moon

Again,conflicts.But if the cancer moon person has a square to saturn in natal they have a great chance to work.

posted March 16, 2017 04:04 AM            

So, if we're just discussing how natal chart placements affect compatibility between two people, I feel like considering the placements in sign and house of the planets in natal is important to an extent. LionFish makes an excellent point by bringing up house overlays which are so often ignored due to rampant lack of birth times. It's hard to wedge that question into casual conversation, so I get it, but literally the innermost factors of how two people see each other are almost 100% dependent on an accurate birth time. Without the Ascendant, Moon, etc, we're missing a lot of sensitive and critical information.

But yes, when we follow this line of logic we could run into some problems if we are not realistic about negative inherences in a synastry or natal chart. In the past, astrology was interpreted with an emphasis on what sign and house the planets were in, and compatibility was assessed through checking for similarities and reciprocity in between two charts. As we moved towards contemporary times, people became uncomfortable with the idea that they could have a moon in detriment or venus in fall, etc, and they began to focus on aspects and adhere to the theory that a planet in any sign has equal capacity to be good or bad. And furthermore, people did not want to accept the negative implications of hard aspects, so those too became just "links," ignoring the capacity for positivity or negativity generated by aspect. Squares have become opportunities to grow and oppositions have become lower octaves of conjunctions. While this is pointing out a POSSIBLE manifestation of such compounds, I believe that contemporary astrology interpretation greatly over-romanticizes the capacity for negative energy in a chart. For example, Empty Spaces, you mentioned a hypothetical couple who has Moon in Cancer and Moon in Capricorn. Traditionally, these placements would put those two individuals in a highly uneven balance of emotional reception. Moon in Cancer is in domicile, and in Capricorn it is in detriment. In this combination, you are reconciling emotional competency on the part of one person with emotional diversion of another. Those are highly conflicting values. Should the Moon in Cancer person receive aspects from Saturn in the natal chart, this can affect the individual to be more susceptible to associating Moon in Cancer energy with Saturn influence, aka they may be less uncomfortable with seeking a relationship with a Capricorn moon individual. But you cannot, so to speak, remove the moon from the sign of Cancer. It's still an opposition between Moons, and traditionally this would be an aspect that indicates incompatibility between the two on the emotional level. Yes, there is a link, and the link is fundamental incompatible inherences in their personality. Then, in the case of the Sagittarius moon square Pisces moon, having Sagittarius moon in the 12th may make that person more susceptible to sharing tendencies with the Pisces moon individual, but their moons are still square. Saying they would have a good emotional understanding because of the Moon in 12th, for me, is greatly rose-tinting this aspect. In my personal study of relationship charts, moons in discord in synastry are often seen in the charts of couples who have broken up, regardless of the moon's aspects in natal. Moon square moon does not directly mean imminent breakup, but general incompatibility between two people certainly can. You can be in a relationship with moon square moon but that relationship means accepting fundamental differences, which is not always what is done.

In my experience, compatibility between two people still ultimately comes down to Sun, Moon, and Ascendant harmony with balance between malefic planets and benefic planets, supported by plenty of trines and sextiles. For example, I have a Sun in Libra that takes a heavy battering in my natal chart from a Saturn/Neptune/Uranus stellium in Capricorn. My Libra Sun also shares a degree placement with my natal Mars. Does this make me more compatible with Capricorns, Pisces, or Aries? Personally, I see that I am more susceptible, yes, to relationships with Capricorns, Pisces and Aries. In fact, for a while I also joined the forefront of nothing-is-inherently-bad thinking towards astrology which says that at worst squares and oppositions are opportunities for growth and at best they are sexy and add spice to the romance. But, when I started actually studying charts and comparing the cycles of astrology to the cycles of the relationship, I started coming back home to the idea that there are good and bad links in astrology, and there is such a thing as incompatibility, bad transits, hard aspects, and debilitations. Susceptibility and compatibility are not the same thing. When it comes to on-paper "what do we have in common", I still match best with Air Suns and Earth moons. Just because Saturn is quite active in square and opposition in my natal chart does not mean I can more freely navigate the waters of a relationship with difficult Saturn themes. I learned that one the hard way.

This is my general cheatsheet where-to-go when I'm looking at a relationship astrologically:

Who are you? - natal
What are your relationship patterns and tendencies? - natals to synastry (what we're talking about)
Do you match by personality? - synastry
What does this relationship channel to the individual? - natals to composite
When will you get together? - transits and natal progressions to natals
What kind of relationship is it/What's going to happen with this relationship? - first meeting transits to synastry, natals, composites
How long will it last? - transits and natal progressions, first meeting, composite