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Ami Anne
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posted March 07, 2017 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
examine my own relationships and those of my clients. That is how I formulate my theories. In two of my close relationships, we have squared Suns and squared Venus’. Someone I knew argued with me that she could make a relationship work with squared Moons. She came back later and told me I was a hundred percent correct and that she could not. I don’t need to “be right to be right”. I just want to understand and then to pass that onto you. In that spirit, we will discuss squared planets.

Squared Suns

In this case, the natives will, likely, have very different approaches to life. One may be neat. The other may be messy. One may want to plan. The other may want to be spontaneous. Picture the “Odd Couple”——Felix and Oscar. Picture Charlie Sheen and John Cryor in “Two and a Half Men”. These couples, so to speak, were diametrically opposed in their world views. That sums up squared Suns. Can squared Suns make it in the relationship? YES, if there are factors for a heart connection.

Squared Venus’
In this case, the arena that is disparate is tastes. One example of the taste arena is sense of humor. With squared Venus’, the sense of humor seems to be so very different that a joke may have one person rolling on the floor and the other person rolling his eyes.I have a funny story on that account. My friend has a Virgo Venus. I have a Gemini Venus. I was so excited to show him Ali G. He watched for a half and hour and did not even crack a smile *sigh*


With squared Venus signs, one person may like opera and the other may like rap. One person may like a very refined manner of dress. The other may like a very off beat manner of dress. One person may like dark wood and heavy furniture. The other may like Ikea. The upshot is that there is a difference in TASTE. Can squared Venus signs make it in a long term relationship? I don’t have empirical evidence, so I will say that I don’t know. Yes, these natives can be close friends. However, I am not sure how this would play out in a long term marriage. My sense is that a couple could make it with squared Venus signs, but they would have very different tastes and would need to learn to accept this.

Squared Moons

I could not live in a close relationship with squared Moons, myself. I have a Cancer Moon conjunct the MC. I feel very “Moon-like”. By this, I mean that I operate from my Moon. I think we all do, but I feel very aware of it. Hence, I can intuit when a person’s Moon sign is not compatible with mine. Most of my friends are Taurus Moon. This is a sextile to my Cancer Moon. Taurus Moon is in the Exaltation, so it is a kind, gentle and warm Moon. Cancer Moon is in the Domicile, so it is the same.

The Moon is one’s heart. It is the most sensitive part of the natal chart. It is the most important factor to consider when one is assessing the compatibility of a relationship(synastry). I do not think a couple with squared Moons can be happy, long term. I know I will get flak for saying this. It is my opinion. I do have a caveat, though. Asteroids MAY be able to fill in this gap. There are Moon-like asteroids, such as Ceres, Valentine, Vesta and Juno.

I do not have enough experience working with charts to know if the asteroids can overcome incompatible Moons. I am working on this in my mind. I will let you know when I have more information. For now, I do not believe that one can have a close, intimate relationship that lasts long term with squared Moons. Can people stay married, long term, with squared Moons? Yes, but will they be close in their hearts? I don’t think so.

Squared Mars

I have not experienced this but have had reports from others. People tell me that this relationship starts out with a great deal of sexual passion. It is a wild kind of “violent” passion. BY “violent”, I do not mean “beating people up”. *SIGH* In these politically correct times, one must be so careful if one burbs. I mean that there will be that kind of sexy passion, in which people want to throw each other in the bushes, so to speak. The interesting thing about this placement is that the relationship does not seem to last. Power plays seem to break it up, but one of the lovers seems to carry a torch for the other.

Squared Mercuries

I think that Mercury is second to the Moon in importance in a close relationship. One’s heart and one’s mind need to be compatible, if one is to have a happy, long term relationship. The Moon is one’s heart. Mercury is one’s mind. I think that if a couple had excellent Moon placements, this could compensate for squared Mercuries. The couple would need to communicate from the heart. There is a soul to soul communication that can have supersede the mind. This is what would be necessary in the case of squared Mercuries.

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AquaLeo29
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posted March 07, 2017 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very interesting...

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hearttreasure
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posted March 07, 2017 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squared Moons

I have moon in Aries in 4th house and I attract Cancer moon (one in the past) and Cap moon.

The Cancer moon was my bestfriend in a college, we never argued and always had the best time especially the laugh. I was very shocked when he confessed his feelings (he admitted he hid it for a long time) and I turned it down by saying "don't you see we have big differences? I don't want to lose my bestfriend". This I didn't know about astrology before. We're still in a good term and I've seen he's still not with anyone.

The Cap moon is actually conjunct my sun and it means it makes the square to my moon. He pursued me quickly after he was introduced to me. He quickly told me if I was ready to get married soon with him because he didn't search a girlfriend but a wife. Again I said, "we have big differences and I don't think we can make it". This I didn't know his birthday before. He is my friend now, although sometimes he teases me again with the question.

I think unconsciously something alarms me.

Squared Suns

I have this with my older sister. But we have moon sextile moon, sun sextile venus, so on.. we have good relationship.

Squared Venus

Well, I attract the square in the past when their venus is making a trine or sextile to my sun. It can go well actually, the only problem we have is only disloyalty from their venus' tendency. I have trine to pluto, I can not tolerate any kind of unfaithfulness.

Squared Mars

Yap. I can sense "ugly". lol.

I attract square once and second time with different square sign. Although the mars conjunct (or opposite) my venus, but it also makes a square to my mars. I personally don't feel any sexual passion with the squared mars (but sure there's some attraction), however I can not picture the future with them because I can see how their actions and mine can clash a lot and bring problems in the future. This is my gut feelings before I know their birthday.

I think I made the best decision by not carried away.

Squared Mercuries

I think if the other person's mercury touches your venus, it can be soften the square. I have dealt with the square sign (not the aspect), simply we see major different things with the same object. If you are willing to patiently listen each other with an open minded, I think all can be well.

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fatatabata
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posted March 07, 2017 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatatabata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami Anne, for taking the time to add such piece of info.
Just like you, my Moon is a Cancer Moon, 4H So I know what you mean by "Moon square Moon in a longlasting relationship? Seriously?".
I need lot of watery Moon in my relationships, and I got along very well with Scorpio Moons, so far.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 07, 2017 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, F. Your words mean so much to me

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fireopal09
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posted March 09, 2017 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guy and I have squared Moons. and Mars. 7 going on 8 years.

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margym0o
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posted March 09, 2017 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My girlfriend and her soon-to-be husband have squared Moons, been together 5 years.

I have squared Mars with mine, over 3 years now.

It's all in how you navigate the energy. You either embrace it and use it constructively or you don't.

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mir
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posted March 09, 2017 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Sun 7,5 Leo
My Moon 16,5 Scorp

His sun 1 Taurus
His Moon 10 Aqua


^ look at that...

It was in fact an 'emotional drama' from the very first moment we met.

It's unbelievable how much he was rationalizing his feelings and emotions (and so: MINE!).
As if I had to push that button in my brain 'to change' .. huh!? Once in a while he suddenly cried like a river.. as if he then realized what I/it all meant.
We didn't get each other At All. He's now in a Moon/Moon trine relationship.. and it's all soooo *lovely* light-hearted he told me, exactly what his entire being was screaming for with me. But I could not walk past things that had happened, things he had said, doubts about me. I never ever forgot he was still thinking about a girl from the past in our first months. That was already the start of our fall... He always blamed me for 'still hanging in the/our past' while not looking forward enough. I always blamed him for being such an emotional immature creature lol.

And he always blamed me for not loving him enough (I thought the exact same about him not loving me enough)

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fatatabata
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posted March 09, 2017 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatatabata     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Mir, hi.
What you wrote almost made me cry (admittedly, I'm being a bit emotional to day )
I think (I get out of Astrology for a second) that we ALL need love and that we ALL crave love. But in different ways.
Astrology makes us know what that particular Moon is ready to accept as "a loving act", and what is able to bring on the plate as "love".
As a Cancer Moon I'm deeply receptive and too detached Moons (Aqua? ) are less nourishing to my Moon than other, more watery, Moons. But I also start to believe that being able to talk "natal chart" with one's partner could/would allow us to be practicing self-knowledge and acceptance. I haven't been able to do that so far, but I think I'll try to do that with my next partner. Like: you know, this is what I need and what makes me feel loved! - what about you? what do you need what do you crave most from a partner, emotionalwise speaking?
Maybe, going through this (never easy) process, unsuitable couples could get to know each other better and better cope with differences.
What do you all think? Awareness is the key?

Sorry, am I totally OT?

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Stellia
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posted March 10, 2017 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus square venus with my good friend - the most obvious difference for us is food.

He is a total meat lover, and I can essentially live without it. We were at an occasion recently with a set menu and it made me laugh as he literally gobbled up all the meat, and practically left all the veg. I was so unfussed by the meat that I left almost all of it, and focussed on the veg.

Handy on a night out with a set menu - but will need a lot of compromise in a day-to-day living situation for sure!

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