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cultstatus
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posted March 10, 2017 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to preface this by stating I am unsure of his time of birth so have set it to 12pm, I am inner circle.

Background story - recently ended a tumultuous and damaging relationship for good. This synastry is between myself and a guy that my ex and I would see everywhere! In the most random of places all around our city, it got to the point where the three of us would joke about the weirdness of it all. It was a really nice warm connection shared between the three of us.

Ex broke up with me. The friend then wants me to party with him not realising we had broken up. One thing led to another and we were intimate. One week later I run into him randomly (again) and in my intoxicated state acted out in a jealous and aggressive way. I'm quite mortified and would be happy to disappear from his radar for good but I will no doubt run into him again very soon, probably tomorrow at an event were both supposed to attend.
I would like to know if anyone sees the connection that I feel here, or is the lust and infatuation purely one sided?
He's not actively pursuing me (nor me him) but we are constantly running into each other socially and I need to get my head around what is going on! Pluto squares in synastry only ever seem to affect me (possibly due to their presence in my natal chart?) with the other party appearing almost indifferent. Sometimes I wonder if he purposely ignores the connection because he doesn't want to go down that road. He is 8 years younger than me. It was really strange energy between us before I lost it at him. My friend who witnessed the most recent interaction said we both were acting nervous around each other which is uncharacteristic for the both of us.

I'm looking at the obvious stuff, his moon conj my NN, sun venus conj, jupiter venus conj and the sun close to my ascendant.

Please help!
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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 11, 2017 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow that's such an intense and electric synastry

I see jupiter opposite chiron double whammy which I think is such a benefactor and life-changing aspect, but there's also chiron/saturn square DW which makes things complicated..

jupiter conjunct venus, sun conjunct venus, saturn/venus trine mars, sun conjunct AC are great aspects...I think the deciding person in this relationship is the red one who must decide how they handle both their jupiter and saturn aspecting blue's venus

since both people seem to be holding back I sense that the saturn square is taking over

please keep us updated!

P.S
and it would be nice to look at the composite as well

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cultstatus
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posted March 11, 2017 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi girlwiththerainysoul!

Thank you so much for your comment. So he would be feeling the energy that I feel to the same intensity?

You say the square could possibly be the cause of both of us holding back. I tried to find more information on this aspect but couldn't find too much at all. Could you provide some more information?

I didn't know whether this composite would work as it's with his unknown birth time set at 12pm, please tell me what you think of it! x

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted March 11, 2017 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi cultstatus!

the composite sun square pluto explains the intenseness as well as trying to avoid or hide the relationship

his TOB doesn't matter much here as it only changes the houses, moon and the vertex and we won't be paying attention to them here

composite venus is conjunct uranus which shows an interesting relationship where the attraction is strong (albeit on and off)

your venus is square his saturn, but also conjunct his jupiter. he must choose if he'll go with his saturn and ignore his jupiter, or the other way around..this is pretty tough for him

your sun conjunct his venus, definitely makes him look up to you and you will have an important impact on his life

he seems like a nice and moral guy though, the composite mars is very well aspected

I hope this helps!

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cultstatus
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posted March 11, 2017 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah that's interesting! It would definitely cause a bit of controversy if people knew we had even been intimate due to the friendship he had with me and my ex, me dating one of his best friends in the past, the age difference, he even dated two of my friends in the past as well.
There is definitely a secretive air about things.

What would happen if he went with Saturn and ignored his jupiter?

Does it look like this relationship is going anywhere?

This helps a lot, thank you so much.

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waxlobster
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posted March 11, 2017 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Ex broke up with me. The friend then wants me to party with him not realising we had broken up. One thing led to another and we were intimate. One week later I run into him randomly (again) and in my intoxicated state acted out in a jealous and aggressive way.


I'm a bit confused by that paragraph. Are you saying you shouted at him for not calling you after you had a fling? It's very relevant to the story, as the charts themselves cannot predict the choices you make...

A Sun-Saturn conjunction in Pisces is going to struggle with trust and this is what I feel is becoming an issue. Does he have any reason to think you may be unfaithful in relationships? (Sorry I'm calling you out on your Mars-Neptune square, which leads to a likelihood of misinformation from or about you).

Then of course if he's friends with your ex, loyalty may make him reticent to get involved.

There's such a karmic feeling here, about the bumping into each other constantly, the strong synastry and node contacts... I've been in a situation that it reminds me of and it wasn't pretty, it was very complicated indeed! I had to resolve it via past life regression, he hasn't resolved it and still pursues me, after years of pretending he didn't care.

I would recommend going down the meditation route early....if I had my time again, I would :-)

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posted March 11, 2017 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My advice would be to be as honest and open with him as possible and always trust your gut.

Deep down you absolutely know what he feels for you. He may choose not to get involved for a variety of reasons (his exes being your friends, your ex being his friend, fear of confrontation if that's what happened last week) but chances are you will be intimate again. If you want a relationship with him, it would be better for you to be very clear on that.

I know that's not easy, especially where alcohol is involved, but clarity is a wonderful thing for the heart <3 Good luck!!

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cultstatus
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posted March 11, 2017 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry waxlobster no it wasn't because of that - after we parted ways we were messaging each other about reconnecting later that evening and I misread some of his messages and thought he was interested in my friend. Reading back over the messages I realised that wasn't the case and he confirmed that he wasn't either.
He's not friends with my ex enough to not go there, he only knows him socially.

Would love if any one else could provide insight into whether this is going to get off the ground? Am I better off just walking away now to save myself the heartache?

Todd if you read this thread, your past analysis of my other relationship was spot on and call came to pass. Would really appreciate you taking the time to comment on this one.

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todd
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posted March 11, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know, as you describe this relationship ,it seems to be based on drugs and rock and roll. the composite sun/pluto square's midpoint tis conjunct to venus. this is pure self aggrandizing sexuality , there is not emotional connection it is pure lust.
the sun is semisquare to venus which shows a level of emotional intensity but the midpoint is conjunct the node. Saturn which again stunts the emotional intimacy. then with moon conjunct to Neptune the drug induced emotional attraction is shown.

the composite seems to reflect what you have posted so.... you are getting what you are putting out emotionally.

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cultstatus
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posted March 11, 2017 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply Todd.

So you don't see any potential for an emotional connection to grow here?

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todd
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posted March 12, 2017 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cultstatus:
Thank you for your reply Todd.

So you don't see any potential for an emotional connection to grow here?


not really, the sun square pluto pretty much characterizes the realtionahip is one based on selfish needs. a relationship needs compromise and this chart doesn't seem to have that as a priority.

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cultstatus
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posted March 12, 2017 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cultstatus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes it's hard for me to see the relationship for what it truely is when there's such intensity around it. Would you mind taking a moment to comment on this composite? Again the birthtime of one party is unknown. We've had a very on and off friendship and dated briefly, but always with a lot of love and affection underpinning it all. Does this relationship appear to have long term potential? Even potential to become something more than friends? I really like him as a person but he has a few personal issues that he's struggling with at the moment.

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todd
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posted March 13, 2017 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the affection between you is shown by the mars opposed to venus. the moon is trine to the sun showing a underlying compatibility, though maybe lacking in passion.
the mars/sun midpoint conjunct the node does hive a physical vibrancy to the relationship but with the Saturn/Neptune midpoint square the node, the relationship is complicated and there is much that is unknown or concealed.
this uncertainty is also shown by Neptune square the sun which again cast veils and hinders direct connuications.
with mars square to the Uranus/Saturn conjunction it is likely that he would be hesitant to make long term plans.

though the sun/venus midpoint is square the nodal axis, giving the underlying affection you mentioned , chiron from a grand cross with mars/Venus/Saturn/.
this in not favorable because it tends to put conditions on the affection between you as chiron /Saturn tend to be cold and conditional. this usually shows a affection that is kept at a distance.that is when there are feeling of togetherness, he tends to be critical and judgmental to establish the affection is not binding.

I am not sure the venus/sun affection could make him want to give up his needs for independence and his need for seclusion.
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