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rubynoir
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posted March 21, 2017 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I've posted a couple of times here before about a guy I was dating from June 2016 until September 2016 because he moved out of the city.
We had a very intense but short four months together almost never spending a day apart. He even introduced me to his parents but when I started to fall in love with him he panicked and ended things before he left the city.

I took him ending things pretty roughly, I cried, I pleaded but to no avail. Since we've been apart we've switched between no contact and then he calls me at night crying down the phone telling me he misses me and he's hurting because of what happened between us and then back to no contact.

I also suddenly lost my Grandmother in December 2016 so I felt like my world was falling apart around me. After this event my behaviour took a turn for the worst and I began to become verbally abusive and almost physical when he tried to initiate sex with me on Valentines day (he was dating another woman at this time and I was very drunk so flipped out.)

He blocked me on almost everything afterwards and after I begged him to speak to me and I was sorry for being abusive he forgave me.
I again had an impulsive moment a week after whilst I was crying in bed and I decided to tell his new woman about what has been happening and how he had been contacting me the whole time....they ended things and he told me he never wanted to see or speak to me again.

He ignored me for a week until last night when I apologized again he sent me a final message saying
"Please just let this be, it will be forever. I hope you find the right guy for you but that isn't me. Good luck X" He blocked my number.


I cried myself to sleep the whole night last night. I know I've acted stupid but I'm still grieving for my Grandmother and I am also hurt by his on and off behavior.
When we are together it's amazing, we have so much in common - we are so attracted to one another but it's the distance that keeps us apart and he is unwilling to even try.

When I try to date other men he gets upset, when he dates other women so do I. I love him and usually we are so forgiving of one another so I'm in total shock that he actually cut me off completely.........


Do you believe he means it this time or is this common in Venus Retrograde? His Venus is badly afflicted anyway.


Him: 29th July 1992
Time: 15:00 pm

Me: 29th July 1993
Time: 07:15 am

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rubynoir
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posted March 21, 2017 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually if I'm dating and things go wrong I'm able to cut my losses and move on with a lesson but I just feel in my gut there is something VERY different about this situation. I just don't know what it is.

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posted March 21, 2017 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm gonna check your synastry where were you born? And him as well?

I'm so sorry what you went through. By the way we're the same generation.
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posted March 21, 2017 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! I was born in Coventry, United Kingdom
he was born in Kenilworth, United Kingdom.


Thanks again

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posted March 21, 2017 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:
Hey! I was born in Coventry, United Kingdom
he was born in Kenilworth, United Kingdom.


Thanks again


Your welcome

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posted March 21, 2017 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rubynpir is that his correct time of birth?

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posted March 21, 2017 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Rubynpir is that his correct time of birth?


He did tell me when I asked it was around 3 o'clock but I couldn't say if he was certain or not.

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posted March 21, 2017 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he will contact you again, sometime in the future. You have some good aspects between your synastries when I checked ur compatibility using astrowin.org site.

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posted March 21, 2017 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:
He did tell me when I asked it was around 3 o'clock but I couldn't say if he was certain or not.

Okay cause this is extremely crucial the time of birth. If he was born at 3 o clock he is set as a Scorpio rising and these Scorpio risings usually have dark hair dark eyes very mysterious sexy private people very penetrating there eyes. Does it sound like him?

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posted March 22, 2017 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Okay cause this is extremely crucial the time of birth. If he was born at 3 o clock he is set as a Scorpio rising and these Scorpio risings usually have dark hair dark eyes very mysterious sexy private people very penetrating there eyes. Does it sound like him?



Yes he has very dark hair and dark brown eyes, I've always found him so mysterious although he has a lot of Leo in his chart.
I believe Scorpio rising fits!

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posted March 22, 2017 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:

Yes he has very dark hair and dark brown eyes, I've always found him so mysterious although he has a lot of Leo in his chart.
I believe Scorpio rising fits!


Okay perfect and the last day you guys spoke was on march 20th?

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posted March 22, 2017 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
Okay perfect and the last day you guys spoke was on march 20th?



Yes it was the evening of March 20th

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posted March 22, 2017 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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angel4845
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posted March 22, 2017 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know if he is seeing someone else possibly?

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posted March 22, 2017 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm also seeing a lot of unresolved emotional and issues of love between the two of you as I see a DW KARMA ASPECTS the square to your moon and to his venus. So there is defently past life connection here with KARMA.

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posted March 22, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm gonna be completely honest with you - a person does not even need to look at a synastry to tell you that this is a relationship which will not go anywhere any time soon. And even if it does you will not have a happy ending. You're asking if he will contact you again, why? So you can continue with your current dynamic?

You are dealing with a person who does not know what they want and whose only concern is being at ease with their own problems.

He will not respect you and he will not consider you or anyone else. To a stranger reading what you described his behavior makes it obvious.

He will not change his ways no matter how much feelings you have for each other and regardless of anything in synastry or anything you do. He will become the man you want him to be ONLY when he himself faces his demons and matures as a person which does not happen overnight. It takes a lifetime.

If he contacts you and you end up getting together expect more of the same - being pushed away, groveling and cheating until you both learn your lessons the hardest way possible.

The healthiest thing to do if he calls you again is to have an honest open conversation about your feelings in person, exchange apologies for whatever you have to, get some closure and move on.

If he doesn't you have to go through those things internally - forgive yourself and him if you can, accept that this entire situation as a whole is not happening because of you and therefore you cannot do anything about it and move on.

I'm sorry I had to be so blunt considering you're definitely hurting but sometimes this is what a person needs to hear, not deserves to hear. Don't let yourself be walked over.

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posted March 22, 2017 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see a little bit of derailing and misinformation going on in the replies. Aspects in synastry cannot predict the future, only indicate inherences in personality and chemistry.

Venus in retrograde indicates a time where we look to where we've been in regards to past relationships. Rather than outward expression of Venus, inward meditation is more appropriate during this time. If he ended things during Venus in retrograde, that alone does not indicate to me that it is a temporary decision.

If you would like to post images of charts I could have a look at the transits. However I second meyray's analysis that the relationship seems rather unhealthy.

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posted March 23, 2017 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all,

I do understand how unhealthy the situation has been and I know that nothing will change anytime soon. I just feel in my heart there was something special about the situation and if it was karmic in nature it didn't even have a chance to teach me anything yet....

I won't contact him at all but I am very interested in what can be seen in both of our charts. I would like to move on but I think it would be easier if I just understood a little more about the situation.

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posted March 23, 2017 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wal2:
I see a little bit of derailing and misinformation going on in the replies. Aspects in synastry cannot predict the future, only indicate inherences in personality and chemistry.

Venus in retrograde indicates a time where we look to where we've been in regards to past relationships. Rather than outward expression of Venus, inward meditation is more appropriate during this time. If he ended things during Venus in retrograde, that alone does not indicate to me that it is a temporary decision.

If you would like to post images of charts I could have a look at the transits. However I second meyray's analysis that the relationship seems rather unhealthy.


I disagree 100% with everything you have said and it's very polite of you to barge in this thread telling the poster that my help is c r a p and that you can do a better job. I really need to stop being on public forums and start doing this professionally. Since I have proven myself that there is prediction in astrology and venus retrograde is a lie. It's an illusion that every astrologer likes to use as an excuse for WHEN THINGS GO BAD. Leaving this thread now I'm sure this astrologer can help you better then I can. Bye.

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posted March 23, 2017 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hot then cold relationships remind me of two things. Katy Perry's song, and a favorite book of mine called "Mars and Venus on a Date" by John Grey. It is a very simple book so you must read it as if when he says "man" he is saying "masculine energy" and when he says "woman" he is saying "feminine energy" (because as students of astrology we know "men" and "women" have a combination of both energies). It will open your eyes as to why he got confused after getting so close so quickly.

As for Venus Rx, yes, what Wal said. It is a time to THINK about your relationship behaviors. Reading the book would be a good use of the next few weeks. You can Google a free pdf or order a book for a few bucks online.

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posted March 23, 2017 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wal2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@angel4845

I'm sorry if you felt like my comment was meant for you, but it wasn't. I disagreed with @AquaLeo29 when they said:

"I think he will contact you again, sometime in the future. You have some good aspects between your synastries when I checked ur compatibility using astrowin.org site."

I have seen little evidence that having good synastry aspects is expressly correlated to any measurement of a relationship's longevity, and when they will or will not contact you at a point in time. I would like to see your studies on this regards if you feel that synastry aspects predict certain events in time.

You're welcome to share your own delineation theories and what you've found on your studies on Venus in Retrograde. This is a forum for astrological discussion, after all. However, the Retrograde motion of planets is actually verified in astrodynamic science. I would then assume, that your belief is that delineation does not change for you when a planet turns Retrograde?

As for my assessment that the originally posted relationship seems unhealthy, I am simply basing that on the fact that a great deal of hurt has been exchanged between the two with lack of a reconciliation between both's actions towards one another.

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posted March 23, 2017 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel4845     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wal2:
@angel4845

I'm sorry if you felt like my comment was meant for you, but it wasn't. I disagreed with @AquaLeo29 when they said:

"I think he will contact you again, sometime in the future. You have some good aspects between your synastries when I checked ur compatibility using astrowin.org site."

I have seen little evidence that having good synastry aspects is expressly correlated to any measurement of a relationship's longevity, and when they will or will not contact you at a point in time. I would like to see your studies on this regards if you feel that synastry aspects predict certain events in time.

You're welcome to share your own delineation theories and what you've found on your studies on Venus in Retrograde. This is a forum for astrological discussion, after all. However, the Retrograde motion of planets is actually verified in astrodynamic science. I would then assume, that your belief is that delineation does not change for you when a planet turns Retrograde?

As for my assessment that the originally posted relationship seems unhealthy, I am simply basing that on the fact that a great deal of hurt has been exchanged between the two with lack of a reconciliation between both's actions towards one another.


It's okay. You are forgiven.

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posted March 23, 2017 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel4845:
I disagree 100% with everything you have said and it's very polite of you to barge in this thread telling the poster that my help is c r a p and that you can do a better job. I really need to stop being on public forums and start doing this professionally. Since I have proven myself that there is prediction in astrology and venus retrograde is a lie. It's an illusion that every astrologer likes to use as an excuse for WHEN THINGS GO BAD. Leaving this thread now I'm sure this astrologer can help you better then I can. Bye.



Thank you angel4845 I really appreciate all you have written! Would I be able to email you my name?

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posted March 23, 2017 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystic Melody:
[B]Hot then cold relationships remind me of two things. Katy Perry's song, and a favorite book of mine called "Mars and Venus on a Date" by John Grey."


Thank you Mystic Melody I will also be giving that a read.

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