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waxlobster
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posted April 08, 2017 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still not sold on the validity of composite charts, but this one certainly grabbed my attention.

It's myself and a guy I've known vaguely for a while, usually keeping an eye on me in the most peculiar manner. Last week I noticed there's chemistry, as we've spent a bit more time together...
http://imgur.com/a/IMRi3

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posted April 09, 2017 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 10, 2017 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well waxlobster,i have to admit it is a very singular composite as it is very rare to have such exactitude in a geometric pattern in a composite.

any geometric pattern in a composite defines the nature of the relationship as much as the planet placements.

and I must confess, i have had to look at this several times to get accurate opinion on the interpretation.

the golden rectangle is highly favorable.
but the difficulties arise from the planet making up the pattern. Saturn opposed to pluto and jupiter/Neptune opposed to moon and chiron,by themselves would be suspicious aspects potentially.

positively,this pattern shows duration, profundity, incisive inquisive intelligence, spiritually advanced ideas and a far reaching uderstanding of social patterns and the way of the world in general.

this implies a social context of the workplace or in a educational setting. the milieu of this chart is not socialization but for advancement of profession or knowledge .

so the golden rectangle by itself is not really an aspect of romance.
but what turns this chart on it's head is the Uranus north node conjunction opposed to mars conjunct the south node with the Venus/Uranus midpoint opposed to mars.this is one of the most powerful configurations for immediate intense,emotional/astral/physical attraction none can have.

Uranus/node show a astral connection that would include a "psychic" connection but also common dreams about each other.

these shows that you and he have a very strong aura and it is very possible that you even see each other through shimmering lights or energy at times.

so I have to assume that the social context between you is somewhat formal so that you have been around each other for a while but have not acknowledged the attraction til now.

but be cautioned, Uranus attraction can be intense but rarely last .

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posted April 10, 2017 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amonuet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My natal chart actually does something very similar to what this composite chart is doing. I read somewhere once that what you see here is called a "Grand Square," which is when all the aspects form a square on any of the main fixed or cardinal points. This is something that can be immensely powerful (and sometimes difficult) to live with. I do not know how that would play out in a composite chart though! Interesting!

I will link you to my natal so you can understand what I am referring to.

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posted April 10, 2017 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Todd,

Thank you for your excellently comprehensive and fascinating response.

Yes, I note the Saturn-Pluto complication, and I would perhaps consider Moon-Chiron opposite Neptune to create a hazy mess but I think the Jupiter there brings in the spiritual growth potential, which tends to be what I am drawn to in this life.

Longevity is not a concern of mine, as somebody with a tight Venus-Uranus square on my angles, I need Uranus to figure in a connection with another to not feel stifled. Being trapped is more of a concern to me than something being transient ;-)

The circumstance upon which I know this man is social, I've resisted getting to know him, as long as I could, but sometimes I just bump into him everywhere, and he has featured in dreams.

I've noticed when I speak to him there is an almost translucent film over his eyes, like he's just awoken from a hibernation. I put it down to shyness, but it's very strange. I think when you mention 'shimmering lights and energy' that you have somehow cleverly sensed that.

I don't know much about him except that we both play music and have the same taste, a double whammy Mars conjunct each others' South Node implies that perhaps there is something karmic to work out.

Thanks again Todd. I feel like I'm in another dimension, but I like that feeling... :-)

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posted April 10, 2017 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Amonuet,

Wow you do have an interesting chart. My eyes are instantly drawn to that compassionate Mars-Chiron conjunction in Cancer. Then of course I have to note the loose opposition to Uranus-Neptune in the 8th. You are so energy sensitive aren't you? Wow! Do you work with energy healing? Of course you have to be careful to protect yourself. Sun-Moon in Taurus is solid and able to anchor oneself, but there is a vulnerability to having it in the 12th. You are susceptible to picking up what's around you on every level.

I always say this, but Reiki will help protect you and you may find you have a gift for teaching it too...

The Grand Square, or Grand Cross is made up of a series of 4 square aspects and 2 oppositions. Quite a tough configuration, but those people are strong resilient characters usually. Of course the problem is that when an outer planet hits, it hits all of the 4 points, so they can swing in very different directions in life.

Your mystic rectangle, or golden as Todd refers to it, is rarer. There is some orb allowance which means the transits are less intense, also with the nice sextile and trine connectors you'll feel that you have more ease and comfort and less intensity. I'm not sure I've seen many charts with this set up, so I can't read from experience. It's fascinating though, it makes everything look so....deliberate doesn't it!!

Thanks for sharing :-)

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posted April 10, 2017 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
Hi Todd,

Thank you for your excellently comprehensive and fascinating response.

Yes, I note the Saturn-Pluto complication, and I would perhaps consider Moon-Chiron opposite Neptune to create a hazy mess but I think the Jupiter there brings in the spiritual growth potential, which tends to be what I am drawn to in this life.

Longevity is not a concern of mine, as somebody with a tight Venus-Uranus conjunction on my angles, I need Uranus to figure in a connection with another to not feel stifled. Being trapped is more of a concern to me than something being transient ;-)

The circumstance upon which I know this man is social, I've resisted getting to know him, as long as I could, but sometimes I just bump into him everywhere, and he has featured in dreams.

I've noticed when I speak to him there is an almost translucent film over his eyes, like he's just awoken from a hibernation. I put it down to shyness, but it's very strange. I think when you mention 'shimmering lights and energy' that you have somehow cleverly sensed that.

I don't know much about him except that we both play music and have the same taste, a double whammy Mars conjunct each others' South Node implies that perhaps there is something karmic to work out.

Thanks again Todd. I feel like I'm in another dimension, but I like that feeling... :-)


I just noticed that the midpoint of the favorable moon/Saturn sextile is conjunct to mars...this implies that you and he may have a difficult time not caring about longevity, as Saturn/moon /node energy tends toward devotion.
when planets are conjunct the node I a composite it is usual to feel you are in a altered consciousness or other dimension.
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posted April 11, 2017 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amonuet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello waxlobster!

I was so surprised when I read over your post, I have only recently started studying my natal chart, the Uranus conjunct Neptune is one I hadn't looked into until now. I have to say, thank you so much for pointing this out for me!

I am hyper sensitive to energy and the thoughts and emotions of other's. At times I often wonder if I actually pick up on things telepathically, I can often read people very easily and usually tell what is going on in someone else's head. My intuition is very acute and never wrong. And honestly, all of this is very exhausting...Being a Taurus helps in some ways, but I am an Ascending Gemini, so I think my saving grace is having my Moon & Sun both in Taurus. That definitely helps ground me. You are right though, I do pick up a lot of what is around me, and it is likely why I suffer from fibromyalgia.

I have worked very little with energy healing... When I first 'awakened' I was very into it, but I had no clue as to what I was doing. I did try and heal a broken leg, and the guy did swear the pain within the next few days and he mended within a few weeks, pr so he claims! I did inherit a Reiki book from my aunt after she passed a few years ago, and I have tried to go through it, but the worn pages and tea-stains bring up some bittersweet memories, if you know what I mean. </3 Perhaps Reiki is what I may need to help me through this difficult time I have recently been trying to cross over.

I am a little confused as to how I can how I can even possibly have this Neptune/Uranus conjunction though? Maybe I just lucked out, because I was born in 1991. :S

"This conjunction came within a nine degree orb in November 1988, was exact in February, August and October 1993, and stayed in orb until 1998; the last time before that was 1821-3. " http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Uranus-Conjunct-Neptune

My chart does seem a little bit deliberate though sometimes, funny you picked up on that haha! My Lilith is opposite my Ascendant within a -2°03 orb in the 6th House(apparently Obama has this, weird.) http://plutoinvirgo.blogspot.ca/2013/07/lilith-in-6th-house-executive.html

This placement has caused me some seriously intense issues, even since birth? Apparently I was coming out feet first when I was born, so I was a planned C-section, and I never knew my father lol!

Thank you again so much for taking the time to detour off your composite chart, I am feeling really blessed. I learned about some incredible things today. Time for some much needed reflection.

Take care & many blessings friend!

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posted April 11, 2017 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Amonuet,

I¡¦m glad my little write-up resonated with you. If you¡¦re new to astrology then I can imagine it¡¦s a lot to take in and digest, I would encourage you to focus on learning about the planets and understanding the houses before being concerned with Lilith. Each to their own though, my method of learning was quite sequential, I was keen to develop a *feel* for each planet, house and aspect which would stand apart from any literature. If it¡¦s something you want to pursue I think it¡¦s important to have your own take on it all and develop your own experience.

For instance with the outer planets I tracked each one from my birth, through each house and contact and transit, so that I could see how every period in my life was affected. This is an intense way to study, but it was the only way for me, as I¡¦m a ¡¥feeler¡¦ I have Mercury in Pisces, so for me knowledge has to have an emotive, or creative element to it.

I love the Neptune-Uranus conjunction, your generation will bring a great deal more depth and insight into the world. What¡¦s interesting is the last time it occurred ¡V as you say in the 1820s, it also occurred in Capricorn. Fascinating! Just look at how many inventions and innovations can be sourced to that generation, the real activity of the industrial revolution is connected and the world we live in now is directly affected.

The prior conjunction was 1650, anyway I could spend my whole life studying the historic trends of planetary connections, but you can¡¦t really isolate any elements of a chart entirely. Integration is key and where the true synergy of astrology makes itself known.

Your Sun-Moon conjunction being in the 12th House is key to your energy. I¡¦m sorry to hear that you are living with fibromyalgia. That is a terribly debilitating condition and of course somewhat of a mystery in cause, but certainly I would encourage you to learn all you can about your ability to feel and (over) empathise with your surroundings.

Reiki I recommend even more, but really the only way to do it is in person. Hopefully that¡¦s possible for you both in terms of location and finance, but I¡¦m sending you some reiki intent right now. Energy does work at distance too, and it is possible to come through this period. It¡¦s your body, your nervous system, who¡¦s to say you can¡¦t have it all work *for* you.

Reiki hugs¡Kx

Ha Todd, thanks for that midpoint insight. Maybe that¡¦s the main reason I¡¦ve blocked it so far¡K. ƒº Music has a lot to answer for hahaha!!!

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posted April 11, 2017 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Reiki I recommend even more, but really the only way to do it is in person. Hopefully that¡¦s possible for you both in terms of location and finance, but I¡¦m sending you some reiki intent right now. Energy does work at distance too, and it is possible to come through this period. It¡¦s your body, your nervous system, who¡¦s to say you can¡¦t have it all work *for* you.

Reiki hugs¡Kx

Ha Todd, thanks for that midpoint insight. Maybe that¡¦s the main reason I¡¦ve blocked it so far¡K. ƒº Music has a lot to answer for hahaha!!!


interesting, I have self taught "reiki" healing channels, both with hands and imagery.and on the two occasions I tried, I was able to work on subjects at a distance of 1000 miles.
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posted April 11, 2017 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amonuet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again!

I grabbed my Reiki book and sat down before I continued to write this post. I am tuning in to receive those healing vibes you were so kind enough to send out to me. A thousand thank yous!

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I think it's important to have your own take on it all and develop your own experience.

It has certainly been a very interesting journey! I find the way you went about your own self-discovery with astrology to be quite fascinating. I wish I could remember what string of events led me to where in my charts. So far - it seems I am pretty scattered with it all lol!

I am new to Western astrology, I have spent the last couple of years mostly studying and following the Mayan Tzol'kin (their calendar is an astrological wheel) and Mayan Dreamspells. I am very passionate about their systems, sun signs, myths, calculations, naguals and their interpretations!

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I have Mercury in Pisces, so for me knowledge has to have an emotive, or creative element to it.

Mercury in Pisces! Wow, your mind must constantly be swimming in the dreamy etheric realms. Do you dream quite vividly, are you very creative artistically? My son's moon is in Pisces, do you think that would affect him in a similar way?
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Integration is key and where the true synergy of astrology makes itself known. Your Sun-Moon conjunction being in the 12th House is key to your energy.

Yes! I am finally starting to realize how different aspects form different relationships with one another, in order to reveal and birth the true self.

I am very curious now about the Neptune-Uranus conjunction, I am going to have to study a few of my friend's charts that were born in my same year as me!

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Reiki I recommend even more, but really the only way to do it is in person. Hopefully that¡¦s possible for you -

I recently just met an amazing young woman who claims she is about to get her final degree in Reiki. Perhaps she may be able to work with me? The man who also taught me palmistry is a Reiki healer, I could talk to him too!


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posted April 12, 2017 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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interesting, I have self taught "reiki" healing channels, both with hands and imagery.and on the two occasions I tried, I was able to work on subjects at a distance of 1000 miles.
todd


Hi Todd,

I was thinking more of getting atunements to your reiki 1. They do really need to be performed in 'real life' and most certainly are way more powerful that way, I think for somebody energy sensitive (and experiencing very low energy and illness due to it) this would make a big difference.

I needed my attunements in 'real life' too, as I could heal but was drained by doing so. Reiki changed my life, and made my health so much more robust.

Certainly there are many natural healers, such as yourself who are already born equipped to regenerate and send distant healing. I don't doubt it for a minute, in fact I think my Dad was one too. I don't call it reiki without the reiki training though. It's passed down from person to person and the tradition and name is very important to some folks... :-)

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posted April 12, 2017 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Amonuet,

It sounds like you're studying some fascinating areas, I've not even heard of the Mayan Tzol'kin. Funny, as a kid I couldn't tell the time as I always thought the hands moved in the wrong direction, I'm guessing the Mayans 'knew' that too!! ;-)

It's wonderful to explore, find your own specialisms, seek the systems which most emulate your natural thought processes and develop your knowledge in that way. We're lucky to have been born into a time where we have the internet and this is so much more a possibility. Perhaps you will be an expert on one of these subjects one day...? :-)

I love my Mercury in Pisces as it's loosely conjunct Jupiter (very loose) but this puts it in a grand trine with Node-Saturn-Moon and Ascendant-Uranus. So I have a lot of creativity, but also the focus of the grand trine, the stability of Saturn and the ideas sparking constantly from Uranus. I write songs, take photographs, used to draw, write a lot...but my whole family is very creative, which always helps too. :-) Yes my dreams are vivid, and come true, not infrequently. You can tell the 'real life' ones, they wake you up with a 'knowing feeling'!! Do you?

Moon in Pisces is beautiful, so soft and sweet. I love how compassionate and empathic they are, I have a friend who hides her softness under the walls of her Capricorn planets, but I saw it as soon as I met her. I've another friend with Moon in Pisces, he's an artist, sculptor, writer and top musician. Such a multi-talent. In fact most of the Moon in Pisces folk I know are creative in a number of areas. I'm sure your son will be too, if you can encourage him to have lots of pencils, and potentially instruments around him he may well excel. Of course never force it, that can repress the flow. Natural talents need to time express before ever being too directed, especially where Pisces/Neptune is strongly accented.

Fabulous that you've got some reiki links. Just being around them, getting your first atunement and hanging around other reiki/healing folk will help kick start your own natural healing ♥ Your guides and the angels will always help if you ask x

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posted April 16, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very informative.

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posted April 17, 2017 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amonuet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow Amonuet,

It sounds like you're studying some fascinating areas, I've not even heard of the Mayan Tzol'kin. Funny, as a kid I couldn't tell the time as I always thought the hands moved in the wrong direction, I'm guessing the Mayans 'knew' that too!! ;-)


The Maya and the Aztecs, Hopi, Cree (all indigenous peoples really) all have star charts and their own astrology. We just know very little about it all, most of theses teachings are oral thus can only be heard first hand. Mesoamerica was extraordinarily unique in this regard, as they materially recorded their wisdom and sciences unlike their northern contemporaries.

The native people of Turtle Island (America) calculate everything by 13 Moons/Months (hence why it is called Turtle Island, as there are 13 squares on its shell). I have found red wisdom to be startling more accurate and purely more relevant to our existence, as it is in tune with our natural world order. They somehow knew that our continent was shaped like a turtle, thousands of years ago, and certainly did not have telescopes.

Native astrology is interwoven with spiritual belief systems that have not been altered or changed since the dawn of man. Currently archaeology has dated indigenous occupation as far back as 14, 000 years, which now completely overhauls everything we know. Even in terms of Aryan and Atlantean races, this discovery is a game changer.

Due to the nature of their linguistics (hundreds of languages, thousands of dialects) it is actually impossible to alter indigenous account. I have been in a lodge and have listened to a Cree elder speak of Creation stories that have literally come from the Rocky Mountains themselves. Not a man, a mountain. This is why western society treats First Nations peoples so abhorrently here - they are the keepers of the Great Mysteries.

I am not discrediting any other systems or mythology in anyway, but I do have my skepticism. Even the bible is astrotheology, and anything remotely 'New age' I have a deeper cynicism with. New Age beliefs blatantly steals from native-american philosophy, bending it to a western societal paradigm. Which CANNOT and will never work. Bad juju right there lol.

Kinda an example of this: many people from all walks of life smudge with sweetgrass and sage. But do they know the traditions and protocols that comes with those sacred medicines? In my culture, these plants have a spirit and are just as real as you and I. To call upon the help and healing of these spirits is like asking to rewrite your soul contract with the Creator! Prayer is powerful!

Most people do not now this, but if you are a woman and you are on your moon time: you -cannot- smudge. You are already cleansing and at your highest peak of spiritual power. Praying at this time could actually cause a ripple effect across the collective, and depending on that woman and what she is praying for, it could potentially even be harmful.

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Yes my dreams are vivid, and come true, not infrequently. You can tell the 'real life' ones, they wake you up with a 'knowing feeling'!! Do you?

Back on subject though! I was actually trying to explain this feeling to someone recently, so yes I sure do! Those dreams that leave you pondering them for days right? I just love the way you articulate your understanding of people within the planets, it is very beautiful. I have always been attracted to Pisces and the planet Neptune, ever since I was little. They are a rare breed too! I only know two Pisceans, one who is my best friend. What a unique soul she is! Both of these people are very creative like you mentioned, very empathetic, humble and open hearted. My son is sweetness incarnate, but with his 0°13' Virgo, so close to Leo, he is intensely emotional and has a hard time controlling his ego. Being an ascending Taurus helps plant him a bit firmly on the ground though - phew lol. His chart is very hard for me to read actually, he has grand sextiles (Six pointed stars).

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I'm sure your son will be too, if you can encourage him to have lots of pencils, and potentially instruments around him he may well excel. Of course never force it, that can repress the flow. Natural talents need to time express before ever being too directed, especially where Pisces/Neptune is strongly accented.

So well spoken and expressed, thank you... I have always felt intuitively that I need to allow him to have as much freedom as possible, within safety limits of course. His father and I are both very artistic and play music, but I don't want to ever force our life paths upon his. I actually walked away from art for many years because my family was so controlling and focused on that being my chosen career.

<3 I cannot thank you enough for this very insightful post. I would love to show you how to calculate your Mayan sun signs and dreamspells! I am very curious as to what your nagual is after chatting a bit. I feel a lots of yellow healing wisdom radiating off your words, but who knows! I will post mine below so you can get a feel for it:

DREAMSPELL - Red Self-Existing Dragon
Blue Western Castle of Burning
Earth family- Cardinal Clan- Fire

"I define in order to nurture,
Measuring being.
I seal the input of birth
With the self-existing tone of form.
I am guided by the power of navigation."

Kin 121
Harmonic 31:

Resonant Input Inform flowering of attunement
Moon Phase: New Moon

Mayan Tzol'kin Sun Sign - Lamat/Q'anil (Venus/Rabbit)
Galactic Tone: 3 Action

(All of this contains worlds of information, it is time consuming to research just like a natal chart, but very fun! You can even base your compatibility with other people based on their sun sign/dreamspell make up, just like Western astrology. This is where Mayan Crosses come in.)

http://www.starroot.com/cgi/daycalc.pl (To calculate dreamspells)

http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html (To calculate sun signs)

http://www.astrodreamadvisor.com/free_mayan_readings.html
(all of the dreamspell combinations)
http://mayancross.com/ (calcuate your Mayan cross)

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posted April 20, 2017 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Amounet,

Thanks for your lovely, warm response. I think I did come out as yellow, my dream sequence was too dreamy to know if I resonate with it hahaha. I guess a part of me is always more alive in dreams, and creating them. That's why the language of music is so intoxicating, it transcends words and opens the gateway into that ethereal land that I find so difficult to describe or even read about.

As do flowers.

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