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Gracha
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posted May 03, 2017 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Todd and thank you again for the readings you've done for me here. I've recently met a new man and he's an attorney/author who is very interested in me, lol even calling me his future wife jokingly. Do you see this potentially leading anywhere serious? His birth time isn't correct though. I was once told by a famous vedic astrologer (Raj Kapiel) 2 years ago that I'd meet and marry a man who works in government, sector of law, which is exactly what this new man does. BTW, I've never dated a lawyer before, or high profiled person for that matter.

If anyone else has anything to add please feel free and thank you so much in advance. I am also including the synastry(I'm blue, he's red) chart along with composite.



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posted May 04, 2017 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Sun-Chiron in the composite and synastry (almost a double whammy there), something is definitely fated between you. You may indeed end up together but it doesn't seem to be the easiest relationship with Moon in the 12th house square Sun or Mercury and Saturn square Mars in the composite. It would help a lot to know his birth time. He does seem to be the one Kapiel predicted but keep in mind he is not always correct in his predictions and you have free will.

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posted May 04, 2017 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful_Light I love your name BTW, thank you so much. I totally agree about Kapiel and his predictions. I didn't know sun chiron double whammy could be fated, wow that's neat and scary. I'll ask his birthtime because that will surely help. Do you see anything else in the chart, I know there are some wide conjunctions but I can feel them, what you think of those? Also my birth time is accurate. Based on my chart could you tell me the type of man I'll get serious with possibly marry? I've been told by another reader that my future husband could be working as a lawyer. I've never been married and im approaching mid 30 next year.Thank you again, I appreciate😃

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posted May 04, 2017 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the orbs between your Sun and his Juno and your Juno and his NN?

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posted May 04, 2017 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iridia, there's about a 4 degree orb between both, what are you thinking? Thank you

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posted May 04, 2017 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad. I was thinking that Juno conjunctions could explain his wife jokes. I wouldn't go over 3 degrees here though. Well, you still have your Sun in the sign of his Juno so he may see some of the qualities he'd appreciate in a partner in your personality. I'll be back with more later.

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posted May 04, 2017 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Iridia, everytime I talk to him there's jokes about marriage or my being unavailable to date other men because of him lol

I look forward to seeing what else you've to say!!


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posted May 04, 2017 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay first off, I’m presuming you put in his birth time as 12 noon? So let’s bring that forward a few hours, let’s give him a pedantic, detail-driven Virgo Moon. It also brings the opposition to your Mercury into an opposite sign which ‘feels right’ and also gives you an in sign Moon square Moon which seems to illustrate the light-hearted way you describe the interaction between the two of you.
Now if he is a late Virgo/early Leo Moon there is square to your Neptune, which could pertain to him putting you on a pedestal and having a rather unrealistically hazy, dreamy view of you. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, it can create a wonderfully empathic and psychic link between you, so long as there is a connection to the ‘real you’ also.

What I like best here is that he has a Juno-Chiron conjunct your Sun (Juno between the two builds a bridge within the 8° orb) and your Chiron conjunct his Sun. For me this is very deep, healing, nurturing and soothing. I’m not somebody who considers whether a relationship will last a lifetime; rather whether it is honest and true. Chiron can hide nothing. You may find yourselves raking up old fears, vulnerabilities, childhood wounds and failings. In fact I’d be disappointed if you didn’t, as it feels that this is the fulcrum of why you two have met.

I do want to ask why, if he is ‘very interested in you’ you don’t describe him as somebody you are seeing? Are you holding back here? If so, why? Or is it that you are geographically far apart and so have been unable to meet up and explore the potential between you?

As always I’m interested in your gut feeling, as that’s what will speak the most volumes. Synastry shows all the potentials, but only when both parties are actually interactive!

Some highlights – his Neptune trine your Sun (he’s an inspiration to you), his Pluto square your Moon (he brings out your passionate side, but beware he will want to possess you entirely at times if you get together! Things will often have to be on his terms…). His Uranus opposite your Sun (he will be unavailable at times, with a job like that his mind will be elsewhere for periods of time, you’ll need to not be clingy). His Jupiter trine your Moon, sextile your Neptune, conjunct your Pluto. This is great, it brings a fun, uplifting ingredient to the relationship which is important to fall back on when things get intense. Also you’ll find his influence is excellent for your financially. Jupiter-Pluto are the dream team for money making!

I’m not entirely convinced that Saturn contacts are quite as relevant as they were in the days before women were independent financially, however I do like to see some for longevity, for a deeper karmic bond. (They are notably absent here - although without the grid I cannot see the quintiles, which may help, if present).

My feeling is you two have come together to heal the baggage you have not worked through from childhood and to accept one another’s’ weaknesses as never experienced before. I think this will be a very passionate but probably short-lived relationship.

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posted May 04, 2017 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waxlobster, thank you for your analysis! I'm not clingy and he is very busy getting home often late evenings. Would you count his natal Saturn conjunct the composite Venus/Mars for his wanting things to be long lasting? My Saturn is widely opposite his sun and his Saturn/sun/mercury is widely conjunct my Venus I feel those somehow.


I'm holding back because of distance, same state different city, plus I don't want to get in over myself with him. We could possibly meet next week but I'm a bit iffy although I like him and chatting over the phone/Skype, he seems to be more enthused and planning to do things I'm into when/if I come. I enjoy talking to him, I love his voice and personality, attractive physically as well but for some reason I think he's a player, vibe I'm getting. If a man is serious about a woman why be charming and joke about marriage etc early on. Usually the more nervous a guy is the more he likes her. I don't fully trust his sincerity. Another thing, he's 13 years older and never been married but yet jokes with me about it. I'm 34 BTW.

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posted May 04, 2017 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gracha,

Well of course Todd is the expert on composite charts. I work more with the natals and synastry so, no I'd not look to the composite for Saturn contacts. Not that they're not valid there, just that you have to be in the relationship for the composite to really be part of the picture.

If you don't trust him yourself well....that doesn't bode well. All I can say is meet the guy. What is there to lose? Him joking about marriage is hardly a deal breaker surely? We can philosophise all we want about what would happen if you guys got together but.....it sounds like you don't even want to!! Haha!! Ah well, all good practise ;-)

PS - age gaps don't register with me. I don't see them as important at all. So long as you're both consenting adults and you're on the same page, age is immaterial... :-)

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posted May 04, 2017 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So let’s bring that forward a few hours, let’s give him a pedantic, detail-driven Virgo Moon.

You mixed it up, he can have a Cancer or Leo Moon.

Gracha
Astrology aside, you're wise to be skeptical about his jokes. Even if he does consider you a candidate for his wife already, that would be a little desperate of him (after all you only met recently and did it even happen offline?), especially the hinting. You don't want to be a filler for someone's emotional hole or a trophy, right? It's hard to get an idea of what might be going on inside him without knowing his complete chart but when I see his combination of the Taurus Sun, Venus-Mars conjunction in Gemini and his Moon potentially aspected by Jupiter and Neptune, I see someone who tends to be a sweet talker in his dealings with women. Someone good at verbal charm but it might be like a sport to him or art for the sake of art.

You mentioned a Venus-Saturn conjunction but what's the orb again? If it's above 8 degrees, I'd dismiss it if I were you. Which, unfortunately, would make me extra cautious about his intentions cause otherwise it looks like his Saturn is unaspected. His Mercury looks lonely too.

Another thing that worries me is your Saturn possibly unaspected by his personal planets. Or at all (in my opinion) if his Jupiter is more than 4 degrees away. A square to his Moon wouldn't be cute but I think that would be better than nothing because we're talking about your DSC ruler. I don't know if the trine from his Sun to your DSC would be enough satisfy you, even though his Sun is natally compatible (conjunct Saturn).

Now, I don't want to scare you but maybe I should mention this. His Pluto forms a t-square with your Moon and Sun and there may be another t-square with your Pluto. I hope you're mature enough (he in particular) to keep your Plutos under control because it could get nasty. Also, his Chiron appears to be conjunct your Sun. I'd allow if 4 degrees here. There is some potential for pain on your side but I believe it could play out mythologically instead. What I mean by that: Apollo is the primary Greek-Roman solar deity. So let's say the Sun=Apollo. We have Apollo and Chiron now. Apollo is portrayed as the foster father and teacher of Chiron. In short, you if stick long enough may learn a lot from him or even become some kind of protegee (supported by his Saturn in your 10th and more).

I can see in your synastry how you ended up feeling attracted to him (his Uranus opposite your Sun, your Uranus opposite his Venus-Mars, his Jupiter on your 5th house ruler, your Mars sextile his Venus-Mars etc. his Sun in the sign of your Venus etc.) and liking him more than not (his planets in your 11th house, his Jupiter trine your Moon, Venus-Jupiter DW, his Moon in your Ascendant area etc.) but it's hard for me to have a strong opinion about your serious relationship potential without more data. For now I'm not impressed, to be honest.

Anyway, I'm glad you don't put too much stock into the prediction you received. Perhaps RK got the occupation right but it's not like he's the only male with this job in your country. I say explore this connection if you wish but try not to attach yourself to a particular outcome (assuming it's possible with your Venus-Pluto opposition and a Capricorn DSC with the ruler in Scorpio and so on ).

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posted May 04, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iridia:
[B] [QUOTE]So let’s bring that forward a few hours, let’s give him a pedantic, detail-driven Virgo Moon.

You mixed it up, he can have a Cancer or Leo Moon.

True enough, my foggy Mercury in Pisces again. I should always be looking at the charts when typing... so we're talking a possible Pluto square Moon both ways hmmmmn.

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posted May 04, 2017 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi gracha

the references to marriage are shown by Jupiter trine to juno and opposed to mars conjunct to venus. moon trine to Jupiter and sextile mars/Venus creates a kite pattern with all the emotional symbols. this looks very favorable

the moon/Saturn midpoint is on the ascendant and square the sun, which shows sense of devotion in the relationship.

but Saturn is square to Uranus with Uranus conjunct the south node and Lilith which is not often an aspect of stability of longevity in a relationship or marriage.
this aspect can also show he could abruptly change his mind.

though with lilth conjunct the node there maybe a overriding karmic connection here.

the sun/Neptune midpoint is square to Jupiter which also makes me hesitant as this can show hidden issues or agendas in the relationship.it bodes complications and complexities to this relationship which could weaken the impulse toward marriage.


the node will square the composite Venus in the middle of july and continue to square Jupiter in in middle November, so if he is serious I would think he would act on his words later this years.

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posted May 04, 2017 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thank you so much Iridia 😀

Its true he's not the only guy with those qualities/career around, i'm not letting myself get caught up. So my hunch is most likely right, he's a player/smooth talker and thats why i'm taking things slooowwww. You know I even visited his fb page and most of his friends are women, scantily clad on top of that. I searched his background and everything he's said so far is true but imo talk is cheap. I need words and actions to back things up and plus I've tripped him up so far with questions. And he also revealed to me last night that he is ALWAYS the dumper in a relationship.... not good. Now I'm even more apprehensive because that tells me he doesn't want to stick things out in a relationship and quite frankly it's childish.

His pluto square my moon is interesting and he has been showing signs of possessiveness but that to me is even comical because once again we haven't met in person smh. I had my pluto conjunct an ex's moon in libra and I kid you not, this man still won't leave me alone but he's threatened me about other men etc, so I couldn't really deal. Is it worse than the conjunct or felt more? Could you elaborate more on what could possibly happen with the square? I'll ask his birth time tonight. Whats interesting you mention that if I stick with him long enough I could become a protege of his, i'm applying to law school next year but he doesn't know that yet and probably still won't until I get to know him some more, perhaps months down the line, if we are still taking. Thank you again Iridia, I really appreciate the reading and appears to be in line with my intuition.

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posted May 04, 2017 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Todd for reading the composite. Oh wow, Juno hitting those planets in composite is the cause of the marriage reference, makes sense. Lilith conjunct the node is major, nice, what does that mean? You're on point once again, I do believe he has a hidden agenda to be honest. I will try to remember to update this thread if anything significant happens.

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posted May 04, 2017 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Waxlobster, now you can't go blaming mercury in pisces for your fogginess lol, I've that placement and fancy myself pretty active mentally lol.

I wasn't complaining or talking down about the age gap, my reasoning is this, "usually with age comes maturity" and some people still act their shoe size way past adulthood, which is what the man i'm getting to know is behaving like, talking smooth and joking about marriage. I take marriage very seriously and when that happens for me, It will be till death do us part. So it's important I acquire a serious and loyal partner, because marriage is forever in my book unless something happens involving the children. Thank you once again for reading the charts.

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posted May 04, 2017 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

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I need words and actions to back things up and plus I've tripped him up so far with questions.

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he has been showing signs of possessiveness but that to me is even comical because once again we haven't met in person smh.

Pfff...

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I had my pluto conjunct an ex's moon in libra and I kid you not, this man still won't leave me alone but he's threatened me about other men etc, so I couldn't really deal.

Wow, I'd expect the Pluto person to go bonkers like that. And you say he has a Libra Moon, what the hell? Is his Moon closely conjunct Pluto or does he have other hard Pluto aspects natally? Are there any hard aspects from his Pluto to your personal planets or ASC-DSC?

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I'll ask his birth time tonight.

Good luck.

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Could you elaborate more on what could possibly happen with the square?

I think we should consider the whole t-square. We get your luminaries against his Pluto. I believe he could end up trying to control you heavily and claim he does that for your wellbeing (your Moon) and there could be attempts at molding you to his liking (your Sun). Let's add your luminary signs to the equation and his Pluto may really get on your nerves. Do not panic, this is just a potential. His Pluto appears to be unafflicted natally (how far is it from his Venus exactly?) which helps. If you also have t-squares (and it's likely) with his Moon and your Venus-Pluto, it should be easier to handle for him if his Moon is in Cancer. Either way, there's a good chance eventually you'd join him in the "you're MINE" mode and you'd mean it. I don't see it get too destructive though since Venus in domicile is involved.

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i'm applying to law school next year but he doesn't know that yet and probably still won't until I get to know him some more, perhaps months down the line, if we are still taking

Good to know my idea might be valid

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posted May 04, 2017 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Beautiful_Light I love your name BTW, thank you so much. I totally agree about Kapiel and his predictions. I didn't know sun chiron double whammy could be fated, wow that's neat and scary. I'll ask his birthtime because that will surely help. Do you see anything else in the chart, I know there are some wide conjunctions but I can feel them, what you think of those? Also my birth time is accurate. Based on my chart could you tell me the type of man I'll get serious with possibly marry? I've been told by another reader that my future husband could be working as a lawyer. I've never been married and im approaching mid 30 next year.Thank you again, I appreciate😃

Gracha honey you are so welcome, and thank you for the compliment! You have a good head on your shoulders and I think you should trust your gut instinct when it comes to men. You deserve the faithful and loving partner you've saved yourself for. It's true that he does seem like a player; I always get turned off when I see too many sexy women on a guy's social media. And him being possessive towards you in such early stages is definitely odd.

I have had Chiron-Sun DW with a guy before and he was sooo not it! He came onto me very strong in the beginning as well. But trust me, when he's into you, you won't be, and if circumstances change and you like him back, he'll act like a totally different person. Just my experience. Chironic relationships are not meant to last. This man had me fooled and though we had some magical chemistry, ultimately we ended up hurting each other a lot more and there was no way we could make each other happy. I'm glad he's gone now for at least a year overseas.

KRS has predicted "marriages" that were actually karmic partners and such, so I was thinking maybe this guy isn't it and you could meet someone a bit later with the same job possibly, who may be more compatible with you. Sometimes life sends us counterfeits just to test us .

As for your "type" I see your descendant in Capricorn and Vertex conjunct Jupiter in your 5th house. Your husband should be a very devoted man with whom you could possibly start a family. I do not see you being with a womanizer at all

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posted May 04, 2017 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Iridia, heres my chart and his
Im Aries, Hes Taurus
The ex had pluto in libra conjunct libra moon within 1 degree orb. That conjunction squared my cancer ascendant, funny you mentioned the taurus wanting to mold me because my ex used those exact words, "mold you into how I want you to be, it's to help you out". Very manipulative. Thank you again for helping me I really appreciate it.


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posted May 04, 2017 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gracha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Gracha honey you are so welcome, and thank you for the compliment! You have a good head on your shoulders and I think you should trust your gut instinct when it comes to men. You deserve the faithful and loving partner you've saved yourself for. It's true that he does seem like a player; I always get turned off when I see too many sexy women on a guy's social media. And him being possessive towards you in such early stages is definitely odd.

I have had Chiron-Sun DW with a guy before and he was sooo not it! He came onto me very strong in the beginning as well. But trust me, when he's into you, you won't be, and if circumstances change and you like him back, he'll act like a totally different person. Just my experience. Chironic relationships are not meant to last. This man had me fooled and though we had some magical chemistry, ultimately we ended up hurting each other a lot more and there was no way we could make each other happy. I'm glad he's gone now for at least a year overseas.

KRS has predicted "marriages" that were actually karmic partners and such, so I was thinking maybe this guy isn't it and you could meet someone a bit later with the same job possibly, who may be more compatible with you. Sometimes life sends us counterfeits just to test us .

As for your "type" I see your descendant in Capricorn and Vertex conjunct Jupiter in your 5th house. Your husband should be a very devoted man with whom you could possibly start a family. I do not see you being with a womanizer at all


Thank you again Beautiful_Light!! I didn't know KRS had some true predictions but I agree with you about life sending counterfeits to test you. Trusting my gut has kept me out many a potential man troubles in the past. Thank you once again for your help and encouraging words.

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posted May 04, 2017 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lilith conjunct the node is major, nice, what does that mean?

this conjunction shows that you and he are psychically connected at a very deep emotional/subconscious level. This is why it can give feelings of destiny etc if the other aspects work out favorably.

it is why you can sense when thesituationmay be more complex than it first seems.
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posted May 04, 2017 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you again Beautiful_Light!! I didn't know KRS had some true predictions but I agree with you about life sending counterfeits to test you. Trusting my gut has kept me out many a potential man troubles in the past. Thank you once again for your help and encouraging words.

You're welcome, and if you want to check it out, there is a thread about KRS's readings in the Vedic Astrology forum. He seems to be hit or miss with predictions, although he is quite good at identifying someone's "type".

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posted May 05, 2017 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo Ascendant AND Moon??? Run!

Kidding. Kind of. All right, his Moon does exactly trine your Sun and is conjunct your Ascendant, this is good stuff. When I look at your natals separately, I don't see a very good match. Your synastry is still no delight to me. I like his Venus-Mars even less now that I know it's in the 11th house I get the impression he'd rather be married to his career than a woman (his planets in the 10th house, the Sun is the ASC ruler on top of that). And I can already hear the Leo in him whine when it's spanking time for your Saturn. Whatever egomaniac tendencies he may have, you'd probably have little patience for it.

This is just an opinion, of course. You know the guy and you call the shots.

I'm curious, how did he react to your TOB question? Have you told him about your interest in astrology?

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The ex had pluto in libra conjunct libra moon within 1 degree orb.

I get it now. Good riddance.

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Hi Iridia, his birth time is incorrect, he doesn't know it, only that he was born on a holiday lol

Yes I spoke briefly about astrology and he looks at it as entertainment like he'll read the horoscope if coming across it in the newspaper but other than that, he doesn't think against it or anything. He's open to astrology.

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Gracha honey you are so welcome, and thank you for the compliment! You have a good head on your shoulders and I think you should trust your gut instinct when it comes to men. You deserve the faithful and loving partner you've saved yourself for. It's true that he does seem like a player; I always get turned off when I see too many sexy women on a guy's social media. And him being possessive towards you in such early stages is definitely odd.

I have had Chiron-Sun DW with a guy before and he was sooo not it! He came onto me very strong in the beginning as well. But trust me, when he's into you, you won't be, and if circumstances change and you like him back, he'll act like a totally different person. Just my experience. Chironic relationships are not meant to last. This man had me fooled and though we had some magical chemistry, ultimately we ended up hurting each other a lot more and there was no way we could make each other happy. I'm glad he's gone now for at least a year overseas.

KRS has predicted "marriages" that were actually karmic partners and such, so I was thinking maybe this guy isn't it and you could meet someone a bit later with the same job possibly, who may be more compatible with you. Sometimes life sends us counterfeits just to test us .

As for your "type" I see your descendant in Capricorn and Vertex conjunct Jupiter in your 5th house. Your husband should be a very devoted man with whom you could possibly start a family. I do not see you being with a womanizer at all


Thank you Beautiful_Light for your kind words of encouragement and I agree with what you've said. I'll update if anything significant happens.

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