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norah2017
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posted May 10, 2017 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I met him about 6 months back under very unusual circumstances and now for the last two months or so its become sort of obsessive from my side. There's a certain amount of mystery from both of our sides, and we don't talk/meet often. So its not a conventional relationship or dating, and I am assuming its also because its too early and he doesn't really look like in a rush to get into a relationship.

Its just that we have this kooky chemistry and he almost haunts me when I dont hear from him. Its driving me nuts right now, and I really have to control myself from writing to him incessantly and looking needy.
Though he does send me cute messages once in a while and he says that no matter what happens we will always be connected. he says that the first time we met it was magical but I now want to understand how does he feel about me? There is this intense obsession from my side but does he also feel the same about me? Will he ever say that to me?

He also casually sees other women (which should bother me but somehow it doesn't !!!!!) I guess we both know that we will survive in an unconventional setup perhaps. Or maybe I am not thinking straight right now and just feel happy for whatever time I get to spend with him. He is sweet to me though and takes a keen interest in my career and tries to help whenever he can.

I sometimes feel there is a karmic connection here and I should hold on, in the hope that probably one day we will be 'together'. I feel giddy with joy when I am around him. And at other times I feel that I should just let it go, he will keep living his life as a single man or probably he doesnt have feelings for me the way I do.

Though he says things like I am a special person and that he looks forward to being with me but also says that love is painful and that one shouldn't get attached or fall in love.

Totally lost, I have never felt like this before in my life. Please help me get clarity !!!!!

Thanks

here are the charts in photobucket; I am on the inside and he is on the outside:


I am horizontal, he is vertical:

His chart


My Chart

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Beautiful_Light
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posted May 10, 2017 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to LL! Can you post your astro.com Synastry and/or Composite via image hosting, like photobucket?

Use the [img]URL[/img] tags

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norah2017
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posted May 11, 2017 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It took me a few hours to figure out photobucket....phew !!!!! But i think this is how I am supposed to post my charts. Though I wish I could paste the pics directly on the post itself...
Thanks

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Beautiful_Light
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posted May 11, 2017 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good job on getting the charts to show

Commenting on your synastry, I see Venus-Uranus connections which point to sudden attraction which might not be lasting. It could also mean an unconventional relationship, as you said. His Mars and Sun conjunct your Mars and Part of Fortune produces passion and longing for sure but your Mars on his Venus could point to you being the initiator. I would hope for better Sun/Moon contacts in a romantic relationship.

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margym0o
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posted May 11, 2017 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting actually, because it would seem like he would be more invested in this case. I think, as mentioned above, you are feeling the electricity of the Venus/Uranus connection which can feel like a "spark" to get things going. Your Mercury is also well aspected, so I'm sure you enjoy talking to him. Your Mars is as well which helps stir the attraction and motivates you to action.

Other than that though, it isn't very compelling and I think this would come to light if you were to enter into a real romantic relationship with him. It's ok right now because it's just a bunch of "what ifs" but push comes to shove I don't know if it would last. Your Sun and Moon being unaspected is HUGE. The rest of your planetary contact isn't that great either and there aren't many compelling house overlays to compensate. In time you may feel as though something was really missing or that maybe he didn't fully understand you.

Can you post the composite as well? Maybe we will get more of the story that way.

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norah2017
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posted May 11, 2017 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Good job on getting the charts to show

Commenting on your synastry, I see Venus-Uranus connections which point to sudden attraction which might not be lasting. It could also mean an unconventional relationship, as you said. His Mars and Sun conjunct your Mars and Part of Fortune produces passion and longing for sure but your Mars on his Venus could point to you being the initiator. I would hope for better Sun/Moon contacts in a romantic relationship.


Thank you so much; does this mean that he doesn't really have 'feelings' for me? I've been through a bad marriage and don't want to invest into something with no potential.

Also, my time is accurate, but I don't know his time and i chose 14:00 hours. Would time make a lot of difference or that larger picture would stay the same?

Thanks again

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norah2017
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posted May 11, 2017 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by margym0o:
It's interesting actually, because it would seem like he would be more invested in this case. I think, as mentioned above, you are feeling the electricity of the Venus/Uranus connection which can feel like a "spark" to get things going. Your Mercury is also well aspected, so I'm sure you enjoy talking to him. Your Mars is as well which helps stir the attraction and motivates you to action.

Other than that though, it isn't very compelling and I think this would come to light if you were to enter into a real romantic relationship with him. It's ok right now because it's just a bunch of "what ifs" but push comes to shove I don't know if it would last. Your Sun and Moon being unaspected is HUGE. The rest of your planetary contact isn't that great either and there aren't many compelling house overlays to compensate. In time you may feel as though something was really missing or that maybe he didn't fully understand you.

Can you post the composite as well? Maybe we will get more of the story that way.


Thanks Margym; that's the point here, I want to know if he has feelings for me or if he thinks of me as someone 'special'. He treats me really well, but none of us are actually chasing each other. There's no eagerness to talk/meet on a regular basis from his side, but when we do meet its special.

Though its too early to talk about a relationship but its also very confusing because I think I am getting attached to him and I want to know if he also is involved in this as much.

I also feel 'familiarity' with him, could this be a karmic connection or I am just living in fantasy land?

As I mentioned above, his time is not accurate, I don't know how to ask him?

I am posting the composite, thanks so much again.

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norah2017
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posted May 11, 2017 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the composite:

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Snow Dragon
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posted May 11, 2017 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow Dragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the composite unfortunately has Moon square Saturn which shows unending disappointment on the woman's point of view. And Venus in the 12th house in a composite is never a good thing as it shows a relationship that will never be public or real. And another bad sign is the Sun square Neptune which shows the man can be deceptive. :/

and double whammy venus in the 12th house shows a karmic connection that can be painful.

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posted May 12, 2017 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by norah2017:
Thank you so much; does this mean that he doesn't really have 'feelings' for me? I've been through a bad marriage and don't want to invest into something with no potential.

Also, my time is accurate, but I don't know his time and i chose 14:00 hours. Would time make a lot of difference or that larger picture would stay the same?

Thanks again



Yes, knowing the correct birth time can change the Moon position and the house overlays.

It seems from your description (not the synastry) that he is not as serious about you as you may be for him. Snow Dragon presents a good analysis, although the composite may be slightly off.

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norah2017
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posted May 12, 2017 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
the composite unfortunately has Moon square Saturn which shows unending disappointment on the woman's point of view. And Venus in the 12th house in a composite is never a good thing as it shows a relationship that will never be public or real. And another bad sign is the Sun square Neptune which shows the man can be deceptive. :/

and double whammy venus in the 12th house shows a karmic connection that can be painful.


Thanks snow dragon, this really helps me get clarity. I feel like something just sucked me into this, I was least expecting to have a man in my life when he walked in !!!! haha

You seem to be right about the deception part, as I always get the feeling that something is being hidden. I sort of knew he is seeing other women too, he never said we were exclusive as such. But at times i feel that he deliberately withholds information...

I told him a few times I wanted to leave, but its almost like a sticky connection. He says he respects me a lot and i am special. But that's all the emotion I get to see from him.

Maybe we could be good friends as opposed to me hankering after him if the stars don't really match.

Sorry am writing so much, but been going a little nuts about the whole situation. Cant decide if i should just go with the flow or just stop seeing him completely before the situation gets out of control. Possibly try and reduce contact slowly.

xx

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norah2017
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posted May 12, 2017 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by norah2017:
[b] Thank you so much; does this mean that he doesn't really have 'feelings' for me? I've been through a bad marriage and don't want to invest into something with no potential.

Also, my time is accurate, but I don't know his time and i chose 14:00 hours. Would time make a lot of difference or that larger picture would stay the same?

Thanks again



Yes, knowing the correct birth time can change the Moon position and the house overlays.

It seems from your description (not the synastry) that he is not as serious about you as you may be for him. Snow Dragon presents a good analysis, although the composite may be slightly off.[/B][/QUOTE]

Thanks Beautiful Light, I will try and find out the time of birth; but even then I am assuming not much would change. I already feel this unhealthy haunting longing for him and as everyone said possibly he is not in this for the long haul !!!!

Hurts, but in a way its good to have perspective as it will help me decide better. Thanks so much again. xx

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norah2017
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posted May 12, 2017 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snow Dragon:
the composite unfortunately has Moon square Saturn which shows unending disappointment on the woman's point of view. And Venus in the 12th house in a composite is never a good thing as it shows a relationship that will never be public or real. And another bad sign is the Sun square Neptune which shows the man can be deceptive. :/

and double whammy venus in the 12th house shows a karmic connection that can be painful.


Regarding the karmic connection, I actually saw him in a few of my past lives. He was my teacher in one of them and in at least three lifetimes I had untimely deaths. I constantly feel like I owe something to him????
I always assumed karmic connections were soothing and comfortable, didn't really know they could be painful !!!!

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margym0o
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posted May 12, 2017 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by norah2017:
Regarding the karmic connection, I actually saw him in a few of my past lives. He was my teacher in one of them and in at least three lifetimes I had untimely deaths. I constantly feel like I owe something to him????
I always assumed karmic connections were soothing and comfortable, didn't really know they could be painful !!!!


This is DEFINITELY a 12th house relationship then. The 12th house is everything subconscious - unseen, unheard, not spoken of. A reflection of past experiences or ones that are just out of reach. A cloudy mystery that is hard to define. The 12th house is the realm of unrequited love or hidden relations as someone else alluded to. Unfortunately this time around in this life it doesn't seem much different.

The realist in me would tell you to forget the charts and let life play out as it will, but if you are trying to avoid "catching feelings" for fear of potentially getting hurt again then I might think twice about trying to get romantically involved.

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norah2017
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posted May 12, 2017 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for norah2017     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by margym0o:
This is DEFINITELY a 12th house relationship then. The 12th house is everything subconscious - unseen, unheard, not spoken of. A reflection of past experiences or ones that are just out of reach. A cloudy mystery that is hard to define. The 12th house is the realm of unrequited love or hidden relations as someone else alluded to. Unfortunately this time around in this life it doesn't seem much different.

The realist in me would tell you to forget the charts and let life play out as it will, but if you are trying to avoid "catching feelings" for fear of potentially getting hurt again then I might think twice about trying to get romantically involved.


Thank you so much Marygym, I think i will just go slow and see where it all goes. Possibly live without expectations and get over obsessions. We could be anything to each other but I should let go of this craziness to force this into a relationship !!!!

This might be the lesson I am supposed to learn as I was obsessed with my ex husband too and made it my life's mission to get married to him. Only to end up with an emotionally distant partner and a painful seperation.

We meet people to learn, and this might be what the universe is trying to teach me. Thanks so much again. Love and light xx

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posted May 21, 2017 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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