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MilaBirkin
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posted May 27, 2017 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sad about this but I'm curious about those Saturn aspects.
So I wanted to know what others think about this relationship.


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soren
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posted May 27, 2017 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
their chart is too balanced, with equal spreading planets.

yours is a bit more of a punch, say powerful things, get powerful reactions, thanks to your funnel.

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posted May 27, 2017 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
normally twin flame relationships have very similar charts, making the people understand and relate to one another

which both of you dont share

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crystal_clear
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posted May 27, 2017 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crystal_clear     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MilaBirkin:
[B]I'm not sad about this but I'm curious about those Saturn aspects.
So I wanted to know what others think about this relationship.


On the top of my head - Saturn conjunct Sun, did you end it?

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colorful butterfly
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posted May 27, 2017 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the saturn\ sun aspect can cause things to feel very heavy. Also noticed venus in the 12 house overlay, this can sometimes be and unrequented love or a hidden relationship.

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hypatia238
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posted May 27, 2017 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it seems you are the same age, pluto conjunct pluto, chiron conjunct chiron, jupiter conjunct jupiter, uranus conjunct uranus, neptune conjunct neptune, juno conjunct juno.... Which I think is boring and not conducive to evolving together or complimenting each other longterm, is more of the same..

Moon in gemini with moon in cancer do not feel like the best long term match!

Actually the saturn aspects in combo with that lovely venus trine mars and that wide venus opposite mars is why a relationship developed in the first place. Saturn is about commitment, it glues you together and makes you feel responsible for the other. Any relationship that lasts has some crucial saturn contacts typically. Like my parents have a tight saturn conjunct juno and saturn conjunct southnode in synastry and my father has only been married to my mom and never divorced her. Both of my serious relationships involve their saturn conjunct my sun. However both of their jupiters also conjuncted my sun so it balances out. In fact my husband's jupiter and juno conjunct my sun along with his saturn.

But I suppose yes that a hard aspect bt sun and saturn can be too much if not balanced out with some jupiter aspects. It looks like you have venus trine jupiter so that must have helped balance that out and is part of why it worked for a while.

Its a decent chart, there is attraction, lightness and fun but too many planets conjunct which I feel it could lead to getting bored after a while, incompatible moons, and that Sun square Moon makes you feel at odds and not in the same page, I imagine your moods do not sync.

Last your mercury in synastry is not doing much so perhaps there is lack of communication between you two and communication is important. What I see is mercury opposite mars which I feeel would lead to lots of fighting.

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todd
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posted May 27, 2017 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi MilaMirkin

in the composite ,the grand trine of mercury/sun trine to mars and trine to Jupiter on the ascendant is associated with excellent friendships or business/education connections. with Jupiter on the descendant there is a slight relationship factor. venus conjunct Saturn can show a emotional closeness but it can also show a reserved emotional connection.
here the mars/venus midpoint is opposed to pluto the physical/emotional connection is subdued even though thjere could haver been a underlying "smoldering" sexual chemistry. this can show an initially strong emotional/sexual asttraction but most often mars/venus/pluto patterns devolve into inert sexual desire by one or the other.

but the exact reason the relationship had no legs is because the midpoints of the Jupiter/Venus and Jupiter/Saturn squares, are conjunct to Uranus and Neptune. Uranus shows a relationship that would not last and Neptune adds many promises not kept.

todd

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posted May 27, 2017 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I skimmed the responses and agree
with what I think has been said.
Idk if it was mentionwd but both
charts are retrog Chiron. In my
experience and research, chiron
can be beneficial when going fwd.
Both are retrog. I tend to wonder
if there was a soft nurture facet
neither party could deliver? Perchance
it wasn't recognized but it felt
as if something wasn't complete
within the union?

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
normally twin flame relationships have very similar charts, making the people understand and relate to one another

which both of you dont share


Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it!

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crystal_clear:
On the top of my head - Saturn conjunct Sun, did you end it?


No. I forgot to mention which one I am. His Saturn is in conj. my Sun and I suppose he was who end it. Although, it's a long history. Hard to explain in a few words.
Thanks for your reply .

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by colorful butterfly:
I think the saturn\ sun aspect can cause things to feel very heavy. Also noticed venus in the 12 house overlay, this can sometimes be and unrequented love or a hidden relationship.

That's interesting. I appreciate your reply, thanks!

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Well it seems you are the same age, pluto conjunct pluto, chiron conjunct chiron, jupiter conjunct jupiter, uranus conjunct uranus, neptune conjunct neptune, juno conjunct juno.... Which I think is boring and not conducive to evolving together or complimenting each other longterm, is more of the same..

Moon in gemini with moon in cancer do not feel like the best long term match!

Actually the saturn aspects in combo with that lovely venus trine mars and that wide venus opposite mars is why a relationship developed in the first place. Saturn is about commitment, it glues you together and makes you feel responsible for the other. Any relationship that lasts has some crucial saturn contacts typically. Like my parents have a tight saturn conjunct juno and saturn conjunct southnode in synastry and my father has only been married to my mom and never divorced her. Both of my serious relationships involve their saturn conjunct my sun. However both of their jupiters also conjuncted my sun so it balances out. In fact my husband's jupiter and juno conjunct my sun along with his saturn.

But I suppose yes that a hard aspect bt sun and saturn can be too much if not balanced out with some jupiter aspects. It looks like you have venus trine jupiter so that must have helped balance that out and is part of why it worked for a while.

Its a decent chart, there is attraction, lightness and fun but too many planets conjunct which I feel it could lead to getting bored after a while, incompatible moons, and that Sun square Moon makes you feel at odds and not in the same page, I imagine your moods do not sync.

Last your mercury in synastry is not doing much so perhaps there is lack of communication between you two and communication is important. What I see is mercury opposite mars which I feeel would lead to lots of fighting.


Yes, we are the same age. I was born on March and he was born on May.
I also think that is boring, tbh.

Well, I have Moon in Cancer but I don't identify so much with it :/. I think most people who know me will tell you that I'm more like Moon opposite Uranus. I identify more with the aspects.

Altought. He is like a Gemini Moon, he talks a lot, he is always moving and all that.
His Moon is sq. Saturn but I can't see him as a mature person or someone trustworthy.

I like what you wrote about you and your parents . And I like Saturn aspects, I think they are important.

The relationship was fine. You are right about everything. The comunication was awful! There were a lot of silences and I hated it.

I think he was thinking about other woman while being with me. I felt it and a few weeks later, he already had another girlfriend so my intuition was right.

Thank you very much for your reply!

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
hi MilaMirkin

in the composite ,the grand trine of mercury/sun trine to mars and trine to Jupiter on the ascendant is associated with excellent friendships or business/education connections. with Jupiter on the descendant there is a slight relationship factor. venus conjunct Saturn can show a emotional closeness but it can also show a reserved emotional connection.
here the mars/venus midpoint is opposed to pluto the physical/emotional connection is subdued even though thjere could haver been a underlying "smoldering" sexual chemistry. this can show an initially strong emotional/sexual asttraction but most often mars/venus/pluto patterns devolve into inert sexual desire by one or the other.

but the exact reason the relationship had no legs is because the midpoints of the Jupiter/Venus and Jupiter/Saturn squares, are conjunct to Uranus and Neptune. Uranus shows a relationship that would not last and Neptune adds many promises not kept.

todd


Wow, hi todd. Thank you so much for your reply!
It surprises me this part: “Uranus shows a relationship that would not last and Neptune adds many promises not kept.“
He made a lot of promises and those promises disappeared. Everything he said was so 'exaggerating'.

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MilaBirkin
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posted May 28, 2017 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MilaBirkin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MoonMystic:
I skimmed the responses and agree
with what I think has been said.
Idk if it was mentionwd but both
charts are retrog Chiron. In my
experience and research, chiron
can be beneficial when going fwd.
Both are retrog. I tend to wonder
if there was a soft nurture facet
neither party could deliver? Perchance
it wasn't recognized but it felt
as if something wasn't complete
within the union?

I felt that way, I don't know about him. He was just a waste of time.

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