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Topic: Is he serious about me or am I paranoid?
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cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 07:18 AM
Having already gone through some devastating heartbreak this year I am apprehensive in love. Now this beautiful human has come into my life out of nowhere - we met completely by accident and I'm finding it hard to accept that it could be real.My concerns are mostly my own insecurities, that he is several years younger, a model and very charming. We have so much fun together, he has introduced me as his girlfriend to a friend, telling other people we are more than friends, it all seems to be going well. However when we are apart he's not communicative in the way I would like, I may not hear from him for a few days which causes me anxiety and worry, and then I would initiate the communication again. It's driving me crazy. When we do spend time together it could be for three days straight but I can't shake how I feel when we are apart. Are these fears founded? Or am I ridiculously paranoid? Do we have potential for something serious here or is it just purely fun for him? I am on the inside for the synastry chart. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 02:24 PM
Pls include the aspect grid in the synastry wheel, I hate reading it without it. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 02:25 PM
Also pls include asteroids agapenor, amor and valentine in there and yes keep juno. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6623 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 29, 2017 04:07 PM
His Moon is unaspected, your Sun is unaspected, both Nodes are unaspected, Pluto doesn't do much, your Mars is unaspected, his Uranus and Neptune squares your Moon...I think this is not a good matchIP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1447 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted May 29, 2017 05:32 PM
hi cultstatus well the composite certainly has some very affectionate and sincere aspects. the stellium of mercury/Neptune/sun/Jupiter shows a honest, open, understanding and joyously positive connection between you. mars is conjunct to mars and sextile to Venus with bring not only a stable affectionate connection but one that is also caring and nurturing as if you both try to help each other in every way you can. with eris square to Jupiter and the sun, there is passion and enjoyment with every bit of time you are together. just holding hands elicts great satisfaction as joy and understanding seem to flow unhesitatingly from and to each other. the venus/Uranus midpoint is conjunct to the moon soin addition to a almost sedate affection between you,there is also a electric and vibrant emotional/sexual attraction that leaves you both panting and sweaty . intense electric atrtraction can often burn itself out, but here there is that almost insatiable desire but encased in supportive and nurturing emotions. with juno square the vertex and Jupiter conjunct the sun, it seems there is a real sincere and serious feeling from both of you.
the only cause for concern is mars square to Pluto as this often shows that there us a selfish nature lurking below the love and games. mars/pluto squares add to t the intense physical desire initially but often become subdued if no real intimate emotional connection are forged.that is if sex becomes the only point of the relationship then nothing will further in the long term. but that doesn't seem to be the case here. todd IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 06:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: His Moon is unaspected, your Sun is unaspected, both Nodes are unaspected, Pluto doesn't do much, your Mars is unaspected, his Uranus and Neptune squares your Moon...I think this is not a good match
His moon might semi-sextile her sun and his moon might form a novile with her mars but I cant tell without the degrees... I am exploring minor aspects these days. IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 08:17 PM
Sorry guys! Hope the extra information helps. IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 10:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by todd: hi cultstatus well the composite certainly has some very affectionate and sincere aspects. the stellium of mercury/Neptune/sun/Jupiter shows a honest, open, understanding and joyously positive connection between you. mars is conjunct to mars and sextile to Venus with bring not only a stable affectionate connection but one that is also caring and nurturing as if you both try to help each other in every way you can. with eris square to Jupiter and the sun, there is passion and enjoyment with every bit of time you are together. just holding hands elicts great satisfaction as joy and understanding seem to flow unhesitatingly from and to each other. the venus/Uranus midpoint is conjunct to the moon soin addition to a almost sedate affection between you,there is also a electric and vibrant emotional/sexual attraction that leaves you both panting and sweaty . intense electric atrtraction can often burn itself out, but here there is that almost insatiable desire but encased in supportive and nurturing emotions. with juno square the vertex and Jupiter conjunct the sun, it seems there is a real sincere and serious feeling from both of you.
the only cause for concern is mars square to Pluto as this often shows that there us a selfish nature lurking below the love and games. mars/pluto squares add to t the intense physical desire initially but often become subdued if no real intimate emotional connection are forged.that is if sex becomes the only point of the relationship then nothing will further in the long term. but that doesn't seem to be the case here. todd
Thank you as always Todd for your insights. It's funny you mention the potential for selfishness, there have been a few incidents where I've pointed out minor things that could be considered inconsiderate on his behalf. I can see your observations are already in motion between us, but not hearing from him is really confusing/conflicting to what we have when we are together. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 29, 2017 10:57 PM
Thanks!IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted May 30, 2017 12:53 AM
Sorry for the confusion. For some reason I am having trouble getting it to not appear blurry but here it is Thank you! IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted June 01, 2017 12:50 AM
I'm actually becoming increasingly paranoid about the situation. When we are together everything is a dream but when we are apart the communication is only limited to arranging to spend time together, and he will probably only text me very last minute rather than plan anything in advance. I understand his sag placements contribute to this but it's leaving me feeling extremely confused about his intentions, and feeling as though he will disappear at any time like my ex did so many times.Can someone explain this communication? Why does it feel so different when we are apart? Is this just insecurity or intuition? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 01, 2017 01:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by cultstatus: I'm actually becoming increasingly paranoid about the situation. When we are together everything is a dream but when we are apart the communication is only limited to arranging to spend time together, and he will probably only text me very last minute rather than plan anything in advance. I understand his sag placements contribute to this but it's leaving me feeling extremely confused about his intentions, and feeling as though he will disappear at any time like my ex did so many times.Can someone explain this communication? Why does it feel so different when we are apart? Is this just insecurity or intuition?
HOLY COW he has a lot of sag placements and with moon in aquarius! based on that I would say he just likes his space, he is not the type to want to be in touch all the time, he needs a lot of space so as long as when you are together he treats you right his intentions are good. I would think since you have some nice juno aspects and nice composite that he has good intentions but is not a guarantee it will work out ofcourse. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 01, 2017 01:25 AM
I would add that moon conjunct saturn in aquarius will proceed with caution and slowly with matters of the heart and that he is looking for a relationship set on solid foundations such as friendship!IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1447 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 01, 2017 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by cultstatus: I'm actually becoming increasingly paranoid about the situation. When we are together everything is a dream but when we are apart the communication is only limited to arranging to spend time together, and he will probably only text me very last minute rather than plan anything in advance. I understand his sag placements contribute to this but it's leaving me feeling extremely confused about his intentions, and feeling as though he will disappear at any time like my ex did so many times.Can someone explain this communication? Why does it feel so different when we are apart? Is this just insecurity or intuition?
I think it goes back to pluto on the descendant square mars. the 7th house of relationships has one of the most selfish planets on the cusp. this implies that there is a inherent selfishness which when you are together ,he can assuage but when his aura is gone you feel the true nature of the relationship. personally I have rarely seen mars square to pluto lead to "healthy " relationships. todd todd
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cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted June 06, 2017 06:53 PM
It feels like this mars square Pluto is now in affect.I feel like I have no power in the situation, that he is dictating all communication, when we spend time together and what we do, and yet I can't help but continue to obsess over it and want to be with him. I'm terribly fearful of losing him. The Plutonian energy is hitting me hard. I feel like he's becoming distant, but in reality the communication is basically the same as it was from the start. I feel that he is completely unaffected which I can't even fathom. How can one person feel so much and the other nothing? He told me he doesn't mind if I'm dating other people etc. I said let's just be friends if that's what you want. The whole thing is taxing but I just can't give him up! Help! IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 06, 2017 11:05 PM
He loves without possessing, he has a huge sag stellium with moon in aquarius. He likes the idea of free love and basing a relationship on friendship bc friendship is more lasting. If he commits he has to abide by all these social expectations that make him feel confined, he wants to be loved without been possessed, someone who doesnt need regular contact or labels to feel secure or happy, someone who feels complete on her own and sees him as dessert. He is definitely pushing your comfort zone and making you face your shadow side. Is he mirroring a side of you that you dont own in yourself or are you two just very different and meant to be together for a season to transform each other and learn some lessons? Perhaps you met him to get in touch with a side of you that you were not aware of and bring light to that.. IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1446 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 07, 2017 12:18 AM
Just a thought but the 12th house synastry can add to the confusion and your paranoia or distrust of him.Also I agree with Hypatia. I actually had this same experience (and my Sun/Mercury is in his 12th). I interpreted his lack of communication when we were apart as disinterest, but he's really just very Uranian and non-possessive (well... he's possessive in a Taurus way but that's completely different ). Trust takes time If you keep seeing each other and it's consistently great, then eventually you will know that you can expect that from him. In my case I thought that deep down he could just drop me at any moment and not feel anything, but that was really just my own insecurity. And now it's been almost 2 years, and we're gonna move across the country together. So trust
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 07, 2017 03:11 AM
He puts moon and Saturn in your 12th. I have the same placement with someone (in addition he puts his Venus and Mercury also in my 12th), i feel exactly the same way and the communication when apart is very non consistent. The 12th house synastry is extremely tricky and contributes a lot to your fears... its as if he has control over your psyche abd can manipulate you as he wants. Self control and distancing might help and facing your fears and telling yourself that you will survive even if it won't work out. IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted June 07, 2017 08:07 AM
Yes, this is really resonating with me.So many of my subconcious fears are being activated here, it makes sense. Selenite I do fear that he could easily meet someone else and never speak to me again. I fear that he doesn't miss me because he doesn't want to speak all the time. I've never experienced dating someone like this before, so it is a whole new experience that is forcing me to evaluate what is a just fear and what is reality. I don't want to possess him, or know where he is at all the time. I don't want to display jealous tendencies. I think the key here is for me to accept that this is who he is, not expect him to change his behaviours and really consider if I can handle this kind of a relationship. If it is something that will fulfil me. On a positive note it is lovely to have time to myself to live my own life. I spent every free moment with my ex and it was incredibly draining. jjj - I feel like this whole journey of introspection that I'm kind of being forced to take is really benefiting my personal growth, when the feelings of fear and anxiety aren't at play. I will become stronger mentally through this, I don't want to succumb to it. Do you try to initiate the communication when apart? Did modifying your behaviours improve it at all? IP: Logged |
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1446 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013
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posted June 07, 2017 12:38 PM
I felt the same things at the start of my relationship! And am no stranger to draining relationships, all of my previous relationships were like that. I guess I didn't believe that the kind of love he was giving me was even possible, I subconsciously thought it all had to be insecure, painful and vampiric (Venus in Scorpio). I didn't trust that it could be that good, because in a way (to my messed up mind) it also seemed like indifference. But I believe this is what you're going through now, and that it will turn out well! You say it's lovely to have time to live your life, well that's how it's supposed to be between 2 healthy individuals. I think you should also consider that, at this point, he or you ARE completely capable of just meeting someone new at any moment. And also that.. maybe he doesn't miss you, yet, because maybe you aren't bonded enough, yet. But those things don't dictate your worth. It's time that is the factor. It's all part of the excitement, freedom, and if you're right for each other then you'll just keep coming back to each other out of pure desire, and not coercion or insecurity. And eventually you won't question it because the answers are right in your face. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7045 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted June 07, 2017 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Selenite: I felt the same things at the start of my relationship! And am no stranger to draining relationships, all of my previous relationships were like that. I guess I didn't believe that the kind of love he was giving me was even possible, I subconsciously thought it all had to be insecure, painful and vampiric (Venus in Scorpio). I didn't trust that it could be that good, because in a way (to my messed up mind) it also seemed like indifference. But I believe this is what you're going through now, and that it will turn out well! You say it's lovely to have time to live your life, well that's how it's supposed to be between 2 healthy individuals. I think you should also consider that, at this point, he or you ARE completely capable of just meeting someone new at any moment. And also that.. maybe he doesn't miss you, yet, because maybe you aren't bonded enough, yet. But those things don't dictate your worth. It's time that is the factor. It's all part of the excitement, freedom, and if you're right for each other then you'll just keep coming back to each other out of pure desire, and not coercion or insecurity. And eventually you won't question it because the answers are right in your face.
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 4204 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 07, 2017 02:48 PM
A stellium in Sag involving Sun, Mercury,Venus and Mars. Saturn-Moon conjunct, Mars conjunct Sun,Merc and Venus.Your Uranus-Saturn-Venus conjuncts the stellium. Maybe u are judging him too harshly(Saturn)? And your Pluto/Merc square is always on the lookout for something suspicious. He has Saturn-Moon conjunct. So he has emotional control. He may not be that communicative And despite having excitable Mars as part of a stellium in his chart, the Saturn sextile aspect to it does add some restraint. Personally speaking, Saturn-Venus can be cynical in love. And with the abrupt Uranus therein adding distance and improbable affection continuance between you two, it is understandable for you to feel insecure. My advice would be to take this relationship as it comes. Try not to box it in with too many expectations and let it unfold. Think of it this way; he may be a model and travel to places where he sees beautiful people. But u are probably the few people who likes him beyond that "model" status right through to whom he really is. And that is priceless. I dated an incredibly good looking guy that used to make me so insecure that i even got stage fright in bed the 1st time we made love. On a particular day when i visited him, he was still in the bathroom doing his business and left an incredible stench that got him so embarrassed That and of course other pillow talk like how he was terrified of getting older/losing his looks or being loved simply as a "trophy" , got me seeing him past what i thought he was to what he really is: Human. We broke up when he fell for someone else and i ached. But years later he wants to try again with me coz he says i am the only guy that didn't make him feel like he was a piece of meat I care for him but am not feeling the way i did anymore. Let it flow... IP: Logged |
cultstatus Knowflake Posts: 249 From: Australia Registered: Nov 2014
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posted June 09, 2017 02:05 AM
Well he is putting distance between us. I haven't really heard from him all week. We were supposed to go to an exhibition tonight, I text him to check if we are still on and never heard back. So disappointing. I guess I know where he stands now. The full moon is conjunction my Venus tonight too...IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 450 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 09, 2017 05:24 AM
Im sorry you are suffering. I think somehow the energies are very intense right now, many people experience "peaks" in relationships. I have seen that the suffering comes from the fact that I want something very much and I concentrate on the object of my desire and it makes me crazy. Then the situation starts to drain my energy. My advice is not to cut him out completely, but put him into "back burner", try to restore balance in your life and do things that you like doing and that give you good energy (run, swim, take a short trip, go out with friends...). Forget about him for a week/two/even a month and see if he seeks your company. Usually he should, if he is still attracted to you and you have restored the energy balance. I know how hard it is, I have 4 personals in scorpio I could obsess all day over someone, all days Plus I see you have what I call the "love wound" - natal Venus in aspect to Saturn and Chiron (conj and opp). Its all about not feeling lovable deep down. There peeps (I have Saturn opp venus and Chiron parallel venus) experience disappointments until they learn the lesson of self-love (can take all life ). In my case doing sports every day helps tremendously. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 1877 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 09, 2017 08:09 AM
jjj just curious which personals do you have in Scorpio? And how obsessive are we talking? I'm currently interested in a guy with mars/venus/moon/Uranus in Scorpio (conjunct my asc) so I'm curious... IP: Logged |