Juno versus Pluto in Synastry

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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 23, 2017 11:32 PM Pluto is a real love marker without a doubt but its also IMO a star crossed lovers marker so its a complicated fellow often leading to intense encounters or relationships that transform you but that also involve pain at some point, such encounters often end and don't make it to marriage but definitely lead to a lot of personal growth as they bring to the surface parts of us that we need to examine, transform and let go of. Strong plutonic relationships carry the energy of erotic love always bc it has mars conjunct eros exact squaring the nodes. This coupled with Pyramus conjunct Thesbe in its chart gives a strong sense of urgency to come together and act on that strong desire, like its life or death, the result of this is healing through erotic love but when you cannot act on the desire to be together there is a lot of pain since it feels like an urgent matter of life or death. The person must learn to let go of the desire in order to heal. There is both healing by giving in to the desire and healing by letting go of the desire to be with them and accepting the death of outcome your mind was attached to. I have come to this conclusion by looking at Pluto's discovery chart and my own personal experiences. Now looking at Juno's discovery chart I get a different feeling from it, I can see why its known as the asteroid of marriage. Lets start by pointing out it has Sun conjunct Harmonia exact conjunct the 5H cusp, with Moon conjunct exact the IC and Venus conjunct Southnode exact. It also has an exact sextile between Pluto and Agapenor and Chiron conjunct Agapenor. The fact that it has Sun conjunct Harmonia says a lot, Juno relationships make you feel safe, peaceful and calm; all things that are great for a long term marriage. Unlike pluto which often comes with anxiety, obsession, fear, insecurities. Juno's discovery chart has an exact trine between Isis and Osiris! and Sun conjunct Harmonia and Horus. Further Saturn is exalted in Libra in Juno's Discovery chart. I could see how with Horus, Isis and Osiris featuring in the chart like it does that this is the kind of relationship that people may involve the church in if that is important to their faith. I will post shortly Juno's Discovery chart. Is Juno involved in the synastry with the person you are married with? IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 23, 2017 11:37 PM Here it is! IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 23, 2017 11:56 PM I will start: My husband's Juno conjunct Alma conjuncts My Sun. (His Juno by 1d and his Alma by 0d01) My Juno sextiles his Moon by 1d. ------------------------ With my Ex whom we talked about getting married, he almost proposed: His Juno semi sextile exact my Mercury His Juno trined my Northnode by 2d My Juno opposed exact his Chart Ruler Mercury IP: Logged
Orange Knowflake Posts: 6740 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009	posted June 24, 2017 08:15 AM I like your researches on the discovery charts, they are like the birth charts for each planet. In the Juno chart, Sun opposes Pluto, so it gives a Plutonic feeling as well and Juno relationships can be quite obsessive too, but not in the way Pluto relationships are, still...the urge to be together is strong IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 24, 2017 12:13 PM quote: Originally posted by Orange: I like your researches on the discovery charts, they are like the birth charts for each planet. In the Juno chart, Sun opposes Pluto, so it gives a Plutonic feeling as well and Juno relationships can be quite obsessive too, but not in the way Pluto relationships are, still...the urge to be together is strong Great observation about sun opposite pluto, its part of the mystic rectangle which also involves a grand trine bt pluto, mars and jupiter conjunct valentine. This pluto though opposes sun conjunct harmonia and I feel harmonia has a real nice effect on pluto like a soothing effect, like it helps manage the plutonic energy with more ease. I have tr pluto conjunct exact my harmonia right now. You still experience plutonic symptoms but the harmonia helps contain and manage better the negative side effects. I just noticed that Juno has basically an unaspected Neptune except for the quintile to North node which maybe helps the couple find creative ways to move towards their northnode. Uranus looks pretty tamed except for that square to mars but it is too wide to count I feel (10d orb), adding to that theme of stability. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 25, 2017 03:57 PM My husband's Psyche conjuncts my Northnode and both Sentagon his Juno (which conjuncts my Sun). My northnode sentagon his Juno by 0d08 (soulmate whom I am destined to get married with) With my ex his Psyche conjuncts my Northnode by 1d and his MC but it sentagon's my Sun by 0d16. However it does not aspect his Juno. IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3010 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted June 26, 2017 12:35 AM Hypatia This is very interesting! Very fascinated! As I have Juno/Eros square Pluto exact ..... Kind of sucks to know that Pluto ultimately leads to death, rebirth, and transsformation especially desire... What you just said right now about Pluto is exactly what I've always experienced myself too but now that I have better look to this aspect in my own chart I feel that my relationships especially to the people I commit too will eventually always die. there is a conflict with that in me. And right if there's no sex it has to come to an end... Thanks for posting the discovery chart ! Defently saw the exact opposition from sun to Pluto. Interesting that Juno is in Aquarius in the 9th. And venus conjunct moon conjunct Southnode. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3010 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted June 26, 2017 12:41 AM I like the mystic rectangle there. How do you feel about them? ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 26, 2017 07:48 PM I asked people to post their synastry aspects involving Juno at the end of the thread! Its a synastry question...! You really like to move threads. I feel the Interpersonal thread needs more mods who respond to questions instead of moving threads that still meet the requirements of been in Interpersonal. I put a lot of thought into were to put a thread yet they keep getting moved lol IP: Logged
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 169 From: Registered: Nov 2013	posted June 26, 2017 11:09 PM I had two ex-wives. With both of them, our Juno was conjunct. It is a sexual aspect. Like fire. You don't want someone to leave when you have that. IP: Logged
Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 732 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016	posted June 27, 2017 01:39 PM Yes, and Juno is an asteroid! Please don't make this personal, I am just doing my job as a mod and as far as I know, topics centered around asteroids, whether they involve synastry or not, should go in the Asteroid Forum. I understand you put a lot of work into your posts and that is appreciated. At the same time, the discussion will continue in the correct location and nobody is closing your thread. You are a mod yourself so please respect the forum rules instead of creating the same issue and making a complaint when your thread gets moved... Yes, you know I agree we do need more mods over there. I don't have as much time now to answer questions but at least I'm still doing my job as a mod. IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3010 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted June 27, 2017 02:59 PM I have Pluto conjunct NORTH NODE DW square Juno in synastry. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3010 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted June 27, 2017 03:03 PM I did a astrology reading for a client of mine she is in her 60s which means she is the Pluto in leo generation. She has had a long affair with her friend who is also her generation (Pluto in leo) they have venus conjunct Pluto in leo in the composite and both of there name asteroids are conjunct in synastry DW!!! It's crazy!!! They have been in each other's lives since high school. He left her for his ex wife who he has a daughter with. This man divorced twice and she is widowed now and they have always been on and off for so many years. Thy have no NORTH NODE aspects though in synastry but she doesn't know her time of birth. So. I guess Pluto can really make two people be drawn to eachother but obstacles are always in the way of two people forming a union. ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82016 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted June 27, 2017 04:33 PM Thanks for doing your job so well, BL. For now, I'm trying to build up the posts in the Interpersonal Astrology Forum, so if threads are related to synastry, I'm going to keep them there or move them to there, even though they may normally have fit better in another Forum. IP: Logged
Beautiful_Light Moderator Posts: 732 From: Atlantis Registered: Nov 2016	posted June 27, 2017 05:05 PM quote: Originally posted by Randall: Thanks for doing your job so well, BL. For now, I'm trying to build up the posts in the Interpersonal Astrology Forum, so if threads are related to synastry, I'm going to keep them there or move them to there, even though they may normally have fit better in another Forum. Okay, thanks for making that clear...I was trying to send some love to the Asteroid Forum as Interpersonal does seem to be getting a lot of traffic now IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82016 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted June 27, 2017 10:12 PM Thanks! Asteroid Astrology could definitely use some love! Sometimes Interpersonal Astrology has slow days, so it's a work in progress. What we need are more Horary specialists. IP: Logged
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 169 From: Registered: Nov 2013	posted June 28, 2017 12:25 AM Dang this thread is hard to follow. I lost the mood. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 28, 2017 12:50 AM quote: Originally posted by angel4845: I have Pluto conjunct NORTH NODE DW square Juno in synastry. Interesting! I wonder how that has played out for you two? IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 28, 2017 12:52 AM I do appreciate you Beautiful_Light and think you are amazing! and thanks Randall for clarifying... IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 28, 2017 12:54 AM quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: Dang this thread is hard to follow. I lost the mood. You mean my original post? Like you are having a hard time following it? Can I help? which part are you having a hard time following? IP: Logged
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 3010 From: USA Registered: Oct 2014	posted June 28, 2017 07:49 PM quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Interesting! I wonder how that has played out for you two? Unrequited love for sure. It feels unbreakable like Saturn but eventually has to come to an end due to Pluto. It sucks i don't recommend this to anyone. One or both people will be just way too hurt to have this one. Have you experienced anything similar like this one? ------------------ Addicted to Self Relfection - Jupiter R in the 12th House IP: Logged
GrlyGirl200 Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Registered: Jun 2012	posted June 28, 2017 09:06 PM quote: Originally posted by SecretGeek: I had two ex-wives. With both of them, our Juno was conjunct. It is a sexual aspect. Like fire. You don't want someone to leave when you have that. I have Juno in Libra Conjunct a Libra man who also has his Juno and Saturn in Libra Conjunct (loosely) his Sun. I'm crazy about him, and typically love Libra men and energy (esp if they have strong earth). I myself have the Moon in 7th and a lot Libra/Venus energy (Sun Opp Moon, Moon in 7th Trine Venus, 1st house ruler in 7th, Taurus Venus, MC Trine Venus). IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 30, 2017 05:48 PM quote: Originally posted by angel4845: And right if there's no sex it has to come to an end... I swear I love pluto but there is a part of me that wants to blow it up lol. Its ecstasy or pain, heaven or hell, nothing in between. But then it is so fitting since it rules hell! What is more fitting than for you to get a taste of the thing you want the most and for it to then be taken away from you or for you not to be able to have it to describe the pain of what been in hell is like... You have to know what it feels like to be in heaven in order to experience hell which is the absence of what made you feel like you were in heaven... So I have an internal conflict, is pluto really about personal growth truly? or is it just about making you suffer since its the ruler of hell after all? LOL If you think about it pluto is such a mind F*ck! ^^ I am in one of those moods yesterday and today, I feel angry. IP: Logged
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 7235 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014	posted June 30, 2017 06:11 PM quote: Originally posted by angel4845: Unrequited love for sure. It feels unbreakable like Saturn but eventually has to come to an end due to Pluto. It sucks i don't recommend this to anyone. One or both people will be just way too hurt to have this one. Have you experienced anything similar like this one? My experience with pluto is that it does create an "unbreakable bond" but on a psychic/soul level, total mind fck! Is not an unbreakable bond as in "lets get married and stay married" which I feel is more Saturn's domain. Pluto is like a spiritual energy that is happening in another dimension, not in this third dimensional world. In esoteric astrology Pluto rules Pisces. Is such a mind fck, it makes you question reality. You could argue strong plutonic connections were build for another realm. If you think about it we are not truly free here on earth, we are confined by our fears, societal expectations, the need to survive ect.. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 82016 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009	posted July 07, 2017 10:14 PM Thanks, hypatia! IP: Logged

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