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ScorpieScorp
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posted July 16, 2017 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Met this guy recently, he's an artist, and am so confused as to why he met up with me. He said he started dating a girl, recently, (we have been trying to meet up for 2 months)...

Is he attracted or does he want to be friends?

**I don't know his birth time...He's on the outside and the vertical person on the aspects chart.

I look forward to your responses, it makes my day & it really makes me feel like someone cares about my silly worries..


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posted July 16, 2017 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The orbs are large, but I'm loving the double whammy Sun-Moon Conjunctions. That is great. No matter what that is a draw. There are also nice things such as a Sun-Venus Conjunction and Moon Venus Conjunction. But to me the most telling is the dw Sun-Moon Conjunction.

Now the bad...there is a LOT of Uranus going on...like a lot and very little Saturn going on to ground it. Because there are so many aspects between you guys (in addition to the Pluto and NN stuff) I actually think it will be an off and on connection that is strong. But I do not think that it will never be a stable and/or consistent relationship or friendship or whatever. There is also the risk that defining (even as far as wanting to know where he stands on how he feels about you) anything between you two might cause the relationship to abruptly end. You also have to be aware that Uranus strongly placed in synastry or composite can also point to someone suddenly losing interest. Again, this is esp true with a lack of strong Saturn to balance the coolness.

I would really really watch the lack of Saturn aspects long term esp with the amount of Uranus you have. But overall I would just go with the flow. Express how you feel (his Scorpio bit will love knowing you feel strongly...if you do) and go from there. If it's meant to be it will. But I say this as a caution...holding on will not help things, nor will not letting whatever he has with this other girl play out. Trust in the fact that you guys have a connection and met for a reason (esp with this synastry).

Now as to why he may have wanted to meet up and then got a gf...this is something I'm curious about. Did he tell you about this girl? Or did you find out? Basically I'm asking if he has told you any information about her or volunteered that he was dating her prior to you knowing?

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posted July 16, 2017 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun-Moon DW will create a lot of attraction in the beginning, but overtime will generate much drama as the masculine-feminine divide won't be defined. So every time a decision has to be taken a coin is flipped and one side will feel subjugated, or conversely feel burdened to lead when they would rather follow.

Separately, Scorpio women as fierce as they are need a strong male, a provider type. Also, Scorpio moon in men also needs a strong woman who will give him direction.

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posted July 16, 2017 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He said he started dating a girl, recently, (we have been trying to meet up for 2 months)...

I'd say he wants to be friends.

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posted July 16, 2017 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I received a lot of hate for saying this, but Libra is the fakest sign in the zodiac.

The Libras who were honest enough to explain said they prize harmony in the environment above most things. So whatever their true feelings, that is put to the side to preserve and encourage harmonious surroundings. Thus, when you meet a Libra chances are high you aren't meeting the real person, but an agent of something else. The smile, charm, and banter is a device to bring about an effect more than a fixed characteristic.

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posted July 16, 2017 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The natal and progressed synastry is very strong. However, since his tob is unknown I can't say with certainty he's not attracted.

His nChart gives the impression that he is a Moon person more than the Sun person. This means that he will need that moon touched to get going. With is pMoon in Aries and not making major aspect to either your nSun or nAsc, I conclude that he is not feeling you beyond a friendship.

Again, he nAsc is unknown, so it's possible your pMoon in Pisces/Aries could be making a major aspect there. Pieces are missing so it's seeming as a strong friendship, possible fwb if it's to go that route.

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posted July 16, 2017 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
The orbs are large, but I'm loving the double whammy Sun-Moon Conjunctions. That is great. No matter what that is a draw. There are also nice things such as a Sun-Venus Conjunction and Moon Venus Conjunction. But to me the most telling is the dw Sun-Moon Conjunction.

Now the bad...there is a LOT of Uranus going on...like a lot and very little Saturn going on to ground it. Because there are so many aspects between you guys (in addition to the Pluto and NN stuff) I actually think it will be an off and on connection that is strong. But I do not think that it will never be a stable and/or consistent relationship or friendship or whatever. There is also the risk that defining (even as far as wanting to know where he stands on how he feels about you) anything between you two might cause the relationship to abruptly end. You also have to be aware that Uranus strongly placed in synastry or composite can also point to someone suddenly losing interest. Again, this is esp true with a lack of strong Saturn to balance the coolness.

I would really really watch the lack of Saturn aspects long term esp with the amount of Uranus you have. But overall I would just go with the flow. Express how you feel (his Scorpio bit will love knowing you feel strongly...if you do) and go from there. If it's meant to be it will. But I say this as a caution...holding on will not help things, nor will not letting whatever he has with this other girl play out. Trust in the fact that you guys have a connection and met for a reason (esp with this synastry).

Now as to why he may have wanted to meet up and then got a gf...this is something I'm curious about. Did he tell you about this girl? Or did you find out? Basically I'm asking if he has told you any information about her or volunteered that he was dating her prior to you knowing?


Thank you GrlyGirl!! I was wondering about all that Uranus, looks like I'm the Uranus person, does that mean I'm the less stable one? He has tried to get me out several times, and I was not able to meet.

As for the GF, I had no idea. He nonchalantly introduced me to a friend at this drawing activity we were at, and then later told me it was his GF's brother..??..so after that I immediately put him in friend zone.

Then the next day, he took one of my drawings and focused on a uh, more erotic area, and drew an eye in said area with rays. I retorted back he should send that to his GF. Then we talked about some groups I'm interested in joining.

He has been very nice to introduce me to connections so that I can explore these groups, so that's good. Perhaps we will become good friends.

I just hope he's not thinking he can have his cake and eat it too, but he did nothing such as flirt with me or make any kind of moves. He was a gentleman and did pay for everything which was not necessary. It's just strange why we even then hung out...

Learned something new, look for Saturn if you want stability..

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ScorpieScorp
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posted July 16, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Sun-Moon DW will create a lot of attraction in the beginning, but overtime will generate much tension as the masculine-feminine divided won't be defined. So every time a decision has to be taken a coin if flipped with one side feeling subjugated, or conversely they have to make all the decisions when they would rather follow.

Separately, Scorpio women as fierce as they are need a strong male, a provider type. Also, Scorpio moon in men also needs a strong woman who will give him direction.


Thanks Nine!!! About that DW, we are not sure right since I don't know the birth time?

I figure this is a friendship and will start cultivating it that way.

Thanks for the analysis!

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posted July 16, 2017 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I'd say he wants to be friends.

So bare with me here...I'm on a tangent but I have a point.

So here is a piece of advise I was told (more like beaten into me lol), that I have found to be true. My very old school (former beauty queen) southern mother drove home the point that a male will try to talk about or mention anything BUT their respective so's/gf's/wives to a female they find attractive. She has also said and claimed up and down the longer it takes for a man to commit (to a relationship or marriage etc) the greater chance you're not his "one." On the surface I would say both of these aren't true, but when looked at honestly there is truth to it. We as people snatch up something we want and dawdle (and drag our feet) when we don't.

To my point, this guy is a Libra which is a sign known for being indecisive. BUT he has a WHOLE lot of Scorpio which is known for being quite decisive. I do not think this particular man is into you at least not passionately right now (to agree with what Nine said, that you are not activating his Scorpio Moon). I say this because he could have kept the gf a secret, but he chose to tell you. He didn't have to. Now there is also the chance he did it to get a reaction out of you. But I would go with the idea that he wants to be friends only...esp if he mentions his gf first or says any details about her. Libra or not a man won't talk about another woman in front of a woman they are attracted to if they can help it. I will also say this, if he introduces you to her...you've been friend zoned.

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posted July 16, 2017 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I say this because he could have kept the gf a secret, but he chose to tell you. He didn't have to. Now there is also the chance he did it to get a reaction out of you. But I would go with the idea that he wants to be friends only...esp if he mentions his gf first or says any details about her.

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posted July 16, 2017 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my.......look what we have here.

Was this man born October 5 1978?

If so the man I am currently interested in is born the same day as yours.

Don't forget that house position will change A LOT about a natal.

Look at the natals first then to the synastry. You'll find out much more about his capabilities in relationships.

Mine is a very passionate in the moment person, very Uranian. But the libra is VERY indecisive. Always in the middle of everything. He told me so yesterday. Even with all that Scorpio. You have to see how the natal manifests in him.
I tend to agree that you really need some Saturn in the mix if this is going to be long term.
We have moon/Saturn DW.

What's your composite like?

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posted July 16, 2017 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
I received a lot of hate for saying this, but Libra is the fakest sign in the zodiac.

The Libras who were honest enough to explain said they prize harmony in the environment above most things. So whatever their true feelings, that is put to the side to preserve and encourage harmonious surroundings. Thus, when you meet a Libra chances are high you aren't meeting the real person, but an agent of something else. The smile, charm, and banter is a device to bring about an effect more than a fixed characteristic.

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I will agree to this to an extent, and thought about posting it. I just would have been a bit more diplomatic about it lol. The thing about strong Libra energy is peace is the goal, and how that can manifest is a personality who tries to avoid conflict at all costs. Depending on the maturity that can even be staying in a relationship just to avoid the conflict of breaking up. There is also a strong desire for a significant other or partner. So you can have a personality which is on the fence about ending things with you, flirting with other people (to get the feelers out), but won't end the relationship for fear of being alone.

I've fit into the above scenario. And I'm willing to bet this Libra has as well. I'm strong in Libra energy as my 1st house ruler is in my 7th house, my Moon is Trine Venus and in the 7th (and rules my chart/1st house), and when I'm on the fence about something one way or the other it's because I'm not emotionally engaged (natal Moon Square Pluto). When I'm not emotionally engaged the person will view me as waffling back and forth. I'll also be slow to end things (or close the door...I hate burning bridges as my mind might change), and I will admit I become quite flirty before things are close to being done (I have someone I want in mind prior to the relationship ending). This changes when my Moon Pluto is activated. When my Moon Pluto is activated I'm all in. No one else exists or if you hurt me I want to blow the bridge up lol. This is fine and dandy until I stop being angry and go back to being an even tempered 7th house Mooner.

I wouldn't say all Libras are fake. I do find a great deal of them to be so esp without strong Earth or Water signs. I've met a great Libra Conjunct Saturn man with Cancer Moon (to counteract my Cancer Sun with Cap Moon in 7th Trine Venus), and I adore him to bits and pieces. Does he do the typical Libra thing with appearances...yes...plus he has a Leo Venus so his is quite pronounced but he is adorable and I see alot of myself in him (spoken like a self absorbed Asc Conjunct Sun/Mars in the 1st person lol). Plus I think his Scorpio Mercury gives him an edge.

And to expand on EmGem's point. Libra is VERY VERY indecisive. But I think we underestimate how decisive Scorpio energy is. One thing I've personally experienced, and flat out seen with my own two eyes is someone strong in Libra and Scorpio energy being quite direct and decisive when their feelings are engaged or they care. Otherwise not so much. Don't forget Scorpio energy is activated by deep feeling, so I would venture to think that a lack of deep or intense feeling would result in waffling. I think this would be especially true with a Scorpio or Water Moon and/or Venus or Mars. For example a Libra with (lets say) Scorpio Venus or Mars won't be an indecisive Libra when their feelings are aroused. Obviously Uranus changes things, but in EmGem's case they have an established connection...so he's not really being indecisive as he knows how he feels about her.

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posted July 16, 2017 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GrlyGirl200:
So bare with me here...I'm on a tangent but I have a point.

So here is a piece of advise I was told (more like beaten into me lol), that I have found to be true. My very old school (former beauty queen) southern mother drove home the point that a male will try to talk about or mention anything BUT their respective so's/gf's/wives to a female they find attractive. She has also said and claimed up and down the longer it takes for a man to commit (to a relationship or marriage etc) the greater chance you're not his "one." On the surface I would say both of these aren't true, but when looked at honestly there is truth to it. We as people snatch up something we want and dawdle (and drag our feet) when we don't.

To my point, this guy is a Libra which is a sign known for being indecisive. BUT he has a WHOLE lot of Scorpio which is known for being quite decisive. I do not think this particular man is into you at least not passionately right now (to agree with what Nine said, that you are not activating his Scorpio Moon). I say this because he could have kept the gf a secret, but he chose to tell you. He didn't have to. Now there is also the chance he did it to get a reaction out of you. But I would go with the idea that he wants to be friends only...esp if he mentions his gf first or says any details about her. Libra or not a man won't talk about another woman in front of a woman they are attracted to if they can help it. I will also say this, if he introduces you to her...you've been friend zoned.


Well, I have to agree with your Mom! I'm a total believer a man will come after you if he wants. I didn't even plan on writing this person back the next day to thank him, instead, he did (with the erotic pic, something seems off to me that he would send that when he has a GF, but, he does have a lot of Scorpio energy!).

Since then he has been more than helpful in connecting me to 2 of his friends (oddly, both are women) who are involved in some clubs I want to explore. His last message was he would arrange drinks to introduce one of the friends, which I find so unnecessary -- it made me wonder if he's trying to find another way to engage with me without it seeming like he is interested in me...but why?? Maybe he's just being nice or wants new friends, no idea. But it's odd behavior.

My gut thinks he wanted to get to know me (or perhaps he thought I'd buy his art, we did go to his studio first, but he invites everyone to his studio!), and, he has loose rules around female friendships perhaps. Our hanging out was rather date-like, we went to a art activity, he then asked if I was hungry and we grabbed a bite, and he insisted on paying for it. However, the energy between us was quite dull..

Anyhow, for me, I will start to see him as a friend. I just can't help to think we met for a reason. The circumstances on how we met were kind of random.

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posted July 16, 2017 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmGem:
Oh my.......look what we have here.

Was this man born October 5 1978?

If so the man I am currently interested in is born the same day as yours.

Don't forget that house position will change A LOT about a natal.

Look at the natals first then to the synastry. You'll find out much more about his capabilities in relationships.

Mine is a very passionate in the moment person, very Uranian. But the libra is VERY indecisive. Always in the middle of everything. He told me so yesterday. Even with all that Scorpio. You have to see how the natal manifests in him.
I tend to agree that you really need some Saturn in the mix if this is going to be long term.
We have moon/Saturn DW.

What's your composite like?


Here you go EmGem! I don't have his birth time so don't know if that effects the composite . Oddly, we have a lot of Saturn here...

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posted July 18, 2017 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra is indeed very indecisive, as was said. And yes, they can be very fake. They'll even draw things out because they don't want to end something, simply because it's 'ugly'. So, whenever there's a lot of libra, be careful.

I have 1 libra aspect in my chart, and I have indeed felt it in me to be like this, and I control it as much as possible. If you're going to be fake, be fake with people who are also fake. But if someone's being
real and you're being fake, then you're not
going to create anything worthwhile, and
in the end Libras waste their own time, and others, for the sake of 'appearing' decent.
I think their job in life is to balance what is genuinely decent and what just looks nice on the outside, and know when to apply which. So, you need to have some standards when it comes to Libras, because they'll literally swing anyway that is conducive to what they think is harmony.

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Originally posted by Nine:
I received a lot of hate for saying this, but Libra is the fakest sign in the zodiac.

The Libras who were honest enough to explain said they prize harmony in the environment above most things. So whatever their true feelings, that is put to the side to preserve and encourage harmonious surroundings. Thus, when you meet a Libra chances are high you aren't meeting the real person, but an agent of something else. The smile, charm, and banter is a device to bring about an effect more than a fixed characteristic.

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LOL I literally said nearly the same thing yesterday in another thread: "What sign do you least get along with?"


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posted July 18, 2017 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Libra is indeed very indecisive, as was said. And yes, they can be very fake. They'll even draw things out because they don't want to end something, simply because it's 'ugly'. So, whenever there's a lot of libra, be careful.

I have 1 libra aspect in my chart, and I have indeed felt it in me to be like this, and I control it as much as possible. If you're going to be fake, be fake with people who are also fake. But if someone's being
real and you're being fake, then you're not
going to create anything worthwhile, and
in the end Libras waste their own time, and others, for the sake of 'appearing' decent.
I think their job in life is to balance what is genuinely decent and what just looks nice on the outside, and know when to apply which. So, you need to have some standards when it comes to Libras, because they'll literally swing anyway that is conducive to what they think is harmony.


LOL I literally said nearly the same thing yesterday in another thread: "What sign do you least get along with?"


Lol you are straight legit basically saying what I said above. I'm strong in Libra energy (my chart ruler is in the 7th Trine Venus...and my Moon is in the 7th) and I didn't think it was terribly obvious to others we stayed in relationships because we hate conflict lol. I also mentioned that a Libra with strong pluto or Scorpio is not necessarily indecisive. They are indecisive if they don't feel strongly (or the Pluto isn't activated by a person or situation). That is exactly how I am, and how I've seen it in strong Libra and Scorpio energy.

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posted July 18, 2017 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the composite is a bit scattered.
the vertex is opposed to pluto which makes a reciprocal relationship difficult as there is a strong selfish vein here.

pluto with the vertex can also be extremely confusing as it could show a very strange other worldly feeling being together.
it could show some type of past life connection but most likely in this life it would bring only chaotic remembrances.
this is complicated by the mars/venus midpoint being conjunct to pluto. this pattern shows there is a strong emotional/sexual attraction but the ambience as described is strange and bewildering at times. pluto with conjunct to mars/venus midpoint shows the sexual energy is very strong but totally carnal. there is no emotional connection here only pure sexual desire.

Saturn is trine to chiron and sextile to mercury ,so there is a very stable mental connection between you.

Venus and mercury are conjunct which shows you and he do have a very affectionate and open rapport.but chiron is opposed to mercury and Venus which usually shows the relationship is characterized by trying to figure each other out.

the mars/Neptune midpoint is conjunct to mercury which tends to show he is not into exclusivity as you have mentioned.

I tend to think a friendship would be better because there are some common idiosyncratic experience you have both had. you might do best to help each understand life in general rather than form a romantic hookup which would be very problematic and tenuous

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posted July 20, 2017 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpieScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
the composite is a bit scattered.
the vertex is opposed to pluto which makes a reciprocal relationship difficult as there is a strong selfish vein here.

pluto with the vertex can also be extremely confusing as it could show a very strange other worldly feeling being together.
it could show some type of past life connection but most likely in this life it would bring only chaotic remembrances.
this is complicated by the mars/venus midpoint being conjunct to pluto. this pattern shows there is a strong emotional/sexual attraction but the ambience as described is strange and bewildering at times. pluto with conjunct to mars/venus midpoint shows the sexual energy is very strong but totally carnal. there is no emotional connection here only pure sexual desire.

Saturn is trine to chiron and sextile to mercury ,so there is a very stable mental connection between you.

Venus and mercury are conjunct which shows you and he do have a very affectionate and open rapport.but chiron is opposed to mercury and Venus which usually shows the relationship is characterized by trying to figure each other out.

the mars/Neptune midpoint is conjunct to mercury which tends to show he is not into exclusivity as you have mentioned.

I tend to think a friendship would be better because there are some common idiosyncratic experience you have both had. you might do best to help each understand life in general rather than form a romantic hookup which would be very problematic and tenuous

rahu


Thanks Todd. Yes, despite the initial attraction, I've decided it's best to be friends. Thanks for the analysis. Hopefully hopefully one of these days I will post up a synastry, and will say, he's the one!

I feel like I've been in a dating slump for about 10 years, have no idea why except it may be the city I live in. But I've always believed love will find, so no idea. Maybe I'm having some Saturn block.

In a previous thread I was told the trUranus opposite Venus would bring someone in, or the trNN on my ASC would...but it hasn't/or didn't, perhaps maybe why I thought this one might have been"brought" to me.

Sigh....

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