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Ami Anne
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posted August 26, 2017 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars In Synastry—-Attraction or Annoying as Heck?


It is an excellent question because Mars can be a little confusing when it comes to synastry. Let’s explore each planet because great passion and great attraction can be the result of some Mars aspects and great annoyance and even repulsion can be the result of others. Remember that this is an article on synastry, which is about relationships–comparing natal charts. Let’s explore Mars in combination with various planets and angles.

Mars/Ascendant

In this case, it seems to be a powerful attraction on both sides. However, if the rest of the chart lacks simpatico, it can be an aspect of annoyance, felt by both people.

Mars/MC
The Mars person would, likely, give confidence boost to the MC person. However, if the rest of the chart shows hostility between the two, the Mars person could be seen as aggressive.

Mars/IC

This would, likely, be felt as an assault in some way. The IC is a very tender spot. I find that Mars does not feel positive when it conjuncts tender spots in the chart, with the exception being Venus.

Mars/Descendant

This would, likely, be an aspect of attraction. The Mars person would, likely, show passion to the DSC person. The DSC person would, likely, enjoy it.

Mars/Sun

In this case, this aspect seems to be felt as a power play, hence, likely, brings hostility.

Mars/Moon

In this case, the moon person, likely, feels attacked.

Mars/Venus

This aspect is instant attraction felt by both people.

Mars/Mercury

The Mercury person, likely, feels attacked by the Mars person.

Mars/Saturn

In this case, the Saturn person may demean the Mars person for pushing him too hard. The Mars person may feel the Saturn person is a “stick in the mud”.

Mars/Pluto

This is an aspect for powerful attraction. The nature of the aspect is very important here. With the conjunction, there is powerful attraction but it can be that kind of attraction that is on the verge of “violence”, the kind of aggressive attraction, if you know what I mean( and please do, so I don’t have to explain it) With the hard aspects, they are aspects of violence, so be careful. With the trine, it is, likely, powerful attraction but it can stay within boundaries.

Mars/Vertex

The Mars person could bring needed drive to the Vertex person OR he could bring unwanted aggression. One would need to see the nature of the rest of the chart to see which it would be.

Mars /North Node

This aspect would have the same interpretation as the above.

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posted August 26, 2017 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Mars-Saturn aspects can really hold a couple back. It can especially hold the Mars person back. Mars is ambition and it's about getting out there and achieving. Unless the aspect is a trine or sextile, the Saturn person is eventually likely to sabotage the efforts of Mars and keep them from achieving their goals.

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posted August 26, 2017 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Mars/Pluto

This is an aspect for powerful attraction. The nature of the aspect is very important here. With the conjunction, there is powerful attraction but it can be that kind of attraction that is on the verge of “violence”, the kind of aggressive attraction, if you know what I mean( and please do, so I don’t have to explain it) With the hard aspects, they are aspects of violence, so be careful. With the trine, it is, likely, powerful attraction but it can stay within boundaries.


I'm guessing you mean sexual violence and possible violations - and not just sadistic kinks?


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posted August 26, 2017 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
I think Mars-Saturn aspects can really hold a couple back. It can especially hold the Mars person back. Mars is ambition and it's about getting out there and achieving. Unless the aspect is a trine or sextile, the Saturn person is eventually likely to sabotage the efforts of Mars and keep them from achieving their goals.

Great comment, M. Thank you xx

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posted August 26, 2017 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalafort

I just mean that edgy kind of attraction with Mars/Pluto in trine and with the other aspects, yes, there is a possibility of losing control because the passions, in general, are very explosive when these two planets ignite, so to speak.

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posted August 28, 2017 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lalafort

I just mean that edgy kind of attraction with Mars/Pluto in trine and with the other aspects, yes, there is a possibility of losing control because the passions, in general, are very explosive when these two planets ignite, so to speak.


I see.
Well part of the reason I wondered is because 1 I have this with a current love, and I had it in the past. P/M conjunct, I was Pluto, they were Mars.

Now, in the past, it was downright violent. He didn't literally hit me, but he did other violent things, threaten me, throw things, be degrading and down right mean (sincerely not play mean) during sex. It was kind of sick, because when he'd be violent or aggressive, I'd get turned on. Also, I'm pretty shy and can be a bit passive, so, whenever he'd tell me to do something in an aggressive tone, I'd do it. He quickly learned that's how he could control me because I had difficulty saying no to him.

Give me ANY other guy who's aggressive and bossy and I'd either break up with them or slap them across the face. But with him? It was shocking what I let him do to me, and how I enjoyed it, and felt ashamed that I enjoyed what he did.

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posted August 28, 2017 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great points and great question.

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posted August 28, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Confirm with at least a half dozen cases on Mars/'Sun, though when in Libra (my Sun) the power play was not exactly hostile. Maybe more like argumentative or sometimes annoying. Not a synastry I would seek out either for friendship or romance.

Confirm with Plus Points on numerous Mars/Venus contacts involving the opposite sex . I've enjoyed all of them when she was the Mars and I the male Venus. When she was the Venus I had to get passive but still enjoyed the contact. Either way, they've all been live wires.

With same-sex friends, the Marts/Venus contact was friendly and usually enjoyed by both, as long as other indicators didn't show foul weather brewing. .

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posted August 28, 2017 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lalafort

Thanks so much for that comment. It really helps to understand the aspect better!

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posted August 28, 2017 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Great points and great question.

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What if you have Aries as cusp of the descendant. Would that eventually alter how it would feel having partners mars at the IC?

Maybe a Libra ascendant (Aries descendant) would feel more comfortable with this while an Aries riser would feel more "invaded"?

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posted August 29, 2017 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
What if you have Aries as cusp of the descendant. Would that eventually alter how it would feel having partners mars at the IC?

Maybe a Libra ascendant (Aries descendant) would feel more comfortable with this while an Aries riser would feel more "invaded"?


Great question. I would say no cuz the Aries DSC, and I have one,shows the TRAITS to which we are attracted. I find we are not attracted to that sign, per se, but the traits of the sign. I think Mars conj the IC would not be a good placement on the tender IC, my Friend.

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posted August 29, 2017 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lalafort

Thanks so much for that comment. It really helps to understand the aspect better!


Yeah, I mean, it was addicting, like being addicted to some severely unhealthy drug. We know it's not always that way - if there are other harmonious "sweet" aspects it could turn out way different.


This is mildly related, but I've been getting into learning more about transits lately.

I've natal pluto on my dsc. When I was a kid, I was sexually abused, and I learned that around those times, pluto was trasiting my 7th house, very shortly followed by Mars, which also included another incident of sexual abuse.

Fastforward years later - I'd broken up with a different guy, and he threatened to rape me to make me get back together with him. I was very scared for a long while and would check all my locks and just look around outside at night for signs of someone coming or his car in front of my house. I just noted that at the time, Mars, again, was transiting my 7th with my natal Pluto. And that same year and time mars was transiting, when I traveled abroad, I was cornered in an alley by a group of men, and it didn't look like they wanted to ask me the time...

Fortunately found an escape and went to a crowded area.
Aaaand some years later, when I had mars in my 7th yet AGAIN, I dated a guy who later confessed he thought about sexually violating me (really know how to pick em..) Needless to say I broke up with him shortly after.

But anyhow, it is interesting to note these things. Guess everytime Mars comes back around I should carry some weapons on me :P

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posted August 29, 2017 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:

Confirm with Plus Points on numerous Mars/Venus contacts involving the opposite sex . I've enjoyed all of them when she was the Mars and I the male Venus. When she was the Venus I had to get passive but still enjoyed the contact. Either way, they've all been live wires.


Hi. Where is your Venus and Mars? Sign and house?

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posted August 29, 2017 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Hi. Where is your Venus and Mars? Sign and house?

To the best of my knowledge: Venus in Sag 9th. Mars Aires on Ascendent.

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posted August 29, 2017 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To the best of my knowledge: Venus in Sag 9th. Mars Aires on Ascendent.

Wow. With ARIES Mars! On ASC! I was thinking how is it possible he prefers being Venus rather then put his great Mars to action. But then I remembered that that Mars will conjunct her Aries Venus. No way Aries Venus just sits back and lets you chase her even if you're an Aries Mars ))

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posted August 29, 2017 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
Wow. With ARIES Mars! On ASC! I was thinking how is it possible he prefers being Venus rather then put his great Mars to action. But then I remembered that that Mars will conjunct her Aries Venus. No way Aries Venus just sits back and lets you chase her even if you're an Aries Mars ))

Yes, CC, you're quite correct about the Venus Aires woman. And it does seem unnatural that a Mars Aires guy would go passive. Good thinking there.

Any time a woman I'm attracted to wants to lead (regardless of her planets), I'm quite willing to follow as long as the path doesn't look too risky or full of potholes.

I was afraid you were going to tell me I have the same chart as the Pope.

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posted August 29, 2017 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mohini108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone answer this, what about a double whammy Mars/Pluto between two people (tight orbs), an opposite and Square? Is that a recipe for disaster?

Now, we all know the Mars/Pluto aspect in synastry is known to apparently bring on some "violence" to some degree. What if there are many positive aspects between the two people that help balance it out? Does that mean that sort of "violent" potential between these two will be channeled more positively? For instance, the two people can really push each other towards their goals, or the more graphic one....really really rough, dirty, "violent" sex that both people actually enjoy with one another?

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posted April 11, 2018 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Mars trine Mars?

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posted April 11, 2018 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My beloved first wife's Pluto exactly conjunct my natal chart ruler Mars rising. HOT sexuality with no violence whatsoever.

My Mars in 7th House of three of my prospective mates.

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posted April 13, 2018 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like Jewels interpretation of Mars conjunct Saturn. I asked her why it was that I got on so well with someone with such a difficult emotional nature and she said it was because of this particular conjunction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUHbhLdYiU

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