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GrandFireT
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posted September 01, 2017 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With only one or two exceptions, I flat out don't attract Virgo Sun females. I don't have anything against them, but the connections just don't happen. This is not because I have ketchup stains on my tee-shirt or dirty fingernails.

Women with Venus in Virgo are another story.

They seem to show up rather often, usually with Sun in Libra or Leo. When this happens, they'll stop, look and want to become acquainted or more. No earth-shaking relationship has yet resulted. though I can think of several who could start my engine if they got close enough for long enough.

My puzzle is this: I don't understand why the Venus of a sign would be drawn to a person when a Sun of the same sign would not?

Look forward to hearing your comments. No doubt this phenomenon could happen with the same synastry in any of the twelve signs, not just Virgo.

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Lalafortunaea
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posted September 01, 2017 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's your venus and mars in?

And well I'm really not attracted to every scorpio I meet - but if I meet someone with scorp in venus or mars, usually I feel more interested.

The sun sign is more about the soul - the energetic vibration of your essence within.

Mars is sex and how they tackle issues, and Venus is how you behave in love and romance and such.

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GrandFireT
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posted September 01, 2017 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Sag, Mars Aires, neither of which would likely activate Virgo Venus. To the contrary, I would think those placements might repel Virgo.

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posted September 01, 2017 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyRealName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:
Venus in Sag, Mars Aires, neither of which would likely activate Virgo Venus. To the contrary, I would think those placements might repel Virgo.

You are probably too direct for virgo

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Mohini108
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posted September 01, 2017 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mohini108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dude, there are a lot they go into someone showing interest. Maybe these Venus in Virgo girls all had houses in which you had personal planets located. Maybe you had your Sun or Venus in their 1st or 8th houses. This can trigger attraction and interest. Maybe those Venus Virgo girls, their Venus aspects your URANUS. Venus to Uranus in synastry is a common sign of rather quick and sudden attraction that's intense. The hard aspects tend to die off as quickly as it started, but the softer ones can be long lasting, but less intense.

Different things could've triggered their interest other than their Venus in Virgo, or their Sun sign.

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posted September 01, 2017 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mohini108:
Dude, there are a lot they go into someone showing interest. Maybe these Venus in Virgo girls all had houses in which you had personal planets located. Maybe you had your Sun or Venus in their 1st or 8th houses. This can trigger attraction and interest. Maybe those Venus Virgo girls, their Venus aspects your URANUS. Venus to Uranus in synastry is a common sign of rather quick and sudden attraction that's intense. The hard aspects tend to die off as quickly as it started, but the softer ones can be long lasting, but less intense.

Different things could've triggered their interest other than their Venus in Virgo, or their Sun sign.


I tend to agree with Mohini here. There's probably some aspect, some house, some planet that does something to them.

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GrandFireT
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posted September 01, 2017 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mohini108:
Dude, there are a lot they go into someone showing interest. Maybe these Venus in Virgo girls all had houses in which you had personal planets located. Maybe you had your Sun or Venus in their 1st or 8th houses. This can trigger attraction and interest. Maybe those Venus Virgo girls, their Venus aspects your URANUS. Venus to Uranus in synastry is a common sign of rather quick and sudden attraction that's intense. The hard aspects tend to die off as quickly as it started, but the softer ones can be long lasting, but less intense.

Different things could've triggered their interest other than their Venus in Virgo, or their Sun sign.


What you and Lala are saying makes sense, but it's still rather screwy. If you throw a small party and five people of vastly different ages who don't know each show up all driving the same model automobile, you start to wonder. "Synchronicity" is an easy way to explain it, and I do experience that mystery quite often, never fully understanding the why of it.

The subjects who prompted this thread range in age from 27 to 67. Unfortunately I don't have their charts.

However, I believe you might have hit home with your note on Uranus synastry. Maybe these Venus Virgo girls enjoy surfing a big trine to my Uranus-Saturn conjunction (in Taurus).

Thanks, someone should throw an astrology party.

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posted September 01, 2017 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You are probably too direct for virgo

Yes, MRN, what you say might explain why the Sun Virgo's cruise on by without beeping.

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posted September 02, 2017 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on a lot of aspects, really. I am a triple Virgo (Sun, Mercury, and Virgo) and while there isn't a whole lot of obvious reasons why I would be attracted to a Leo or Aries, I also have Moon conjunct Mars, Venus square Mars, and Leo DSC. I also have an air Moon and Mars. One ex had Mars in Aries, and another was a Sun Aries. Longevity is another deal entirely, though. That's where earth and water helps, if they have any in their chart. Otherwise it's just two opposites circling each other until they implode lol.

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posted September 02, 2017 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Stubbborn. "Opposites circling each other" describes some of my encounters.

It also makes me take a new look at my original question. I'm beginning to wonder if my interaction with Venus Virgo women is more a matter of random chance than it is synastry. It boils down to better understanding the Venus in Virgo.

From everything I've read, Venus in Virgo is a tough assignment, especially in the quest for a romantic partner. Finding perfection in, say, antique furniture, is hard enough. Finding it in human beings is impossible.

With Virgo's critical striving for the pure, flawless mate, it's conceivable that she or he would necessarily have to sample many strawberries before finding one of satisfying taste. (Exceptions, of course.)

Not that I've been swamped with Virgo Venus girls. The few that come to mind, now that I think about it, have wandered many strawberry fields, picking here and there, casting aside as they go. It could well be that I'm just another random pick and that their interest is a nothing more than a fleeting curiosity.

I appreciate your warning about implosion. Messy, no doubt.

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posted September 02, 2017 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mohini108     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GrandFireT:
Thanks, Stubbborn. "Opposites circling each other" describes some of my encounters.

It also makes me take a new look at my original question. I'm beginning to wonder if my interaction with Venus Virgo women is more a matter of random chance than it is synastry. It boils down to better understanding the Venus in Virgo.

From everything I've read, Venus in Virgo is a tough assignment, especially in the quest for a romantic partner. Finding perfection in, say, antique furniture, is hard enough. Finding it in human beings is impossible.

With Virgo's critical striving for the pure, flawless mate, it's conceivable that she or he would necessarily have to sample many strawberries before finding one of satisfying taste. (Exceptions, of course.)

Not that I've been swamped with Virgo Venus girls. The few that come to mind, now that I think about it, have wandered many strawberry fields, picking here and there, casting aside as they go. It could well be that I'm just another random pick and that their interest is a nothing more than a fleeting curiosity.

I appreciate your warning about implosion. Messy, no doubt.


Totally agree. Most (exceptions are out there), Venus in Virgo gils are persnickety up the ass! I personally know a Sun/Libra girl with Venus in Virgo, Moon in Sag, Mercury in Libra, and Mars in Leo here in college.

So beautiful (that Libra influence) and so outgoing, smart, kind, and delightfully hilarious. But she's never had a boyfriend. I mean, she's never even attempted I believe. It's obvious after knowing her for some time now she, like virtually all Venus in Virgos, wants that one guy that satisfies whatever list she has in her head. She wants a guy whom she finds super attractive, is tall (she's tall herself), is going to be in a career that is academically "superior" like a doctor or engineer, and he has to be super funny, and also be loyal, etc.

I mean, her Moon in Sag can play a part in this too, because Sag Moons love freedom and not being tied down. So, maybe that Sag Moon and Venus Virgo combo really makes her not want to date, but at the same time only want that perfect mate she has in her head.

I'm not sure if most Venus in Virgo girls end up settling because they rarely find that perfect guy they created in their head, or at some point they realize how picky they are being and learned to actually lower their standards to the level of reality.

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posted September 06, 2017 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mohini108:
Totally agree. Most (exceptions are out there), Venus in Virgo gils are persnickety up the ass! I personally know a Sun/Libra girl with Venus in Virgo, Moon in Sag, Mercury in Libra, and Mars in Leo here in college.

So beautiful (that Libra influence) and so outgoing, smart, kind, and delightfully hilarious. But she's never had a boyfriend. I mean, she's never even attempted I believe. It's obvious after knowing her for some time now she, like virtually all Venus in Virgos, wants that one guy that satisfies whatever list she has in her head. She wants a guy whom she finds super attractive, is tall (she's tall herself), is going to be in a career that is academically "superior" like a doctor or engineer, and he has to be super funny, and also be loyal, etc.

I mean, her Moon in Sag can play a part in this too, because Sag Moons love freedom and not being tied down. So, maybe that Sag Moon and Venus Virgo combo really makes her not want to date, but at the same time only want that perfect mate she has in her head.

I'm not sure if most Venus in Virgo girls end up settling because they rarely find that perfect guy they created in their head, or at some point they realize how picky they are being and learned to actually lower their standards to the level of reality.



M108:

The college girl case you describe is quite familiar. The few VV girls I've known were also very attractive. Believe it or not, I also know one Libra Sun/Venus Virgo/Moon Sag girl in her twenties. She's great fun and very sharp upstairs.

I've never gotten close enough to any VV girl to fully comprehend her outlook on romance. The few I've know seem to guard closely that area of their thoughts.

From what little I've seen and read, the following might characterize the Venus in Virgo placement:

can't feel love
can't understand love
can't give love
can't receive love
doesn't trust love

One source goes so far as to say the VV doesn't need love and that this is the most unfortunate placement a person can have.

I don't believe everything I read, and certainly not all of the above can be true for every VV. No doubt the right aspects could soften or otherwise remedy the chill. It can go the other way, too. I know one with Venus conjunct Saturn in Virgo whose depression and chaotic emotions are highly contagious. (Not sure Virgo is what's bringing on her condition.) I feel sorry for the woman because at the age of 68 one hopes for something better.

Some astrologers associate the above symptoms with a traumatic early life in which the subject was either abused, denied love, neglected or otherwise made to feel unworthy. I've never talked with a woman about this, and I can understand their reluctance to discuss the subject. I'm not sure love is even in their vocabulary. That's truly sad because your thoughts have a way of becoming your destiny.

One VV girl who appeared to want my attention made a point of telling me, "I'm a B***H!" That proclamation only compounded my puzzle over why a VV girl would look at any guy much less one who didn't have sparkling synastry with her.

I wonder if they're looking for a dependable father figure who will treat them the way a father should treat a daughter? I'm aware that a poor daughter/father relationship is responsible for more than a few unhappy women, and they're not all VV's.


Thanks for your thoughts.

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posted September 07, 2017 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubygloom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sun Virgo, Mercury Virgo, and Venus Virgo. (Those are my only Virgo planets) I always thought the love asteroids also come into the picture when figuring out your compatibility. So, maybe those were in your favor when you attracted those other Venus Virgo females.

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posted September 07, 2017 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for that suggestion, Ruby. I wish I had the charts for these Venus Virgo girls. Possibly I'd understand the attraction, if indeed it's anything more than just physical.

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posted September 13, 2017 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 14, 2017 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently Venus in Virgo can have a tendency towards narcissism. My Mom is a 12th house VV and she did not marry for love, so that goes wih your theory of them having difficulty comprehending love. Simon Benjamin has some funny videos on VVs on Youtube (his ex was a VV narcissist).

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posted September 18, 2017 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have Mars in the 6th?

The Uranus-Saturn trine makes absolute sense though. I have Venus in Capricorn at 27 degrees and Mars in Taurus at 17 Taurus. It's great so many of those with Neptune-Uranus in mid-late Capricorn are drawn to me. I feel like they are 'my' people, there so much connection.

It's not so profound with the Uranus-Saturn crew who are a couple of years older, or should I say they are a bit drawn to my Mars in Taurus, but nothing really compares to Neptune conjunct my Venus and trine my Mars.

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posted September 18, 2017 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrandFireT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you have Mars in the 6th?

The Uranus-Saturn trine makes absolute sense though. I have Venus in Capricorn at 27 degrees and Mars in Taurus at 17 Taurus. It's great so many of those with Neptune-Uranus in mid-late Capricorn are drawn to me. I feel like they are 'my' people, there so much connection.

It's not so profound with the Uranus-Saturn crew who are a couple of years older, or should I say they are a bit drawn to my Mars in Taurus, but nothing really compares to Neptune conjunct my Venus and trine my Mars.


Wax, if you're asking me - no, My Mars sits on the Ascendant.

I was always of the belief that a Venus-Neptune conjunction is deceitful and illusory. Apparently you have experienced otherwise? Possibly the Mars trine keeps a realistic keel on the relationship?

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posted September 18, 2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I guess I'd have to see your whole chart to get a gauge, but I'm sure there would be something. Perhaps a prominent Chiron?

Don't believe everything you read. Neptune doesn't have to be deceitful, or wishy-washy it can be transcendental and incredibly creative and romantic. After all Venus IS exalted in Pisces?

So many aspects get a bad write up by astrologer who choose to over generalise. In actual fact it really is a choice how you use connections. A warm honest, open-hearted person is not going to suddenly change their behaviour when somebody's planets aspect their Neptune. On the contrary, they will enjoy being perceived as magical and uplifting! :-)

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