posted January 14, 2018 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by outofideas:
Thank you so much for this invaluable advice, todd! I have been trying to not give in to the emotional issues and just look after what needs to be done. It has been difficult however as I was in an extremely weakened state.
What does 'a bunch of 8s and 4s' mean - a bunch of cr@p?

I have been meaning to update this thread - I have updated all charts and they should now reflect the birth times of Suess and Warner pretty accurately. The events of the past few months really helped in pinning the times down.

I'll try to keep it as concise as possible. Some of my predictions on here did come true. First of all, Suess got promoted in October - I believe she must have been working towards this in the summer, but when that one particular project was receiving some heat and had to be revised would have been the most crucial time for her, so maybe this is why I felt she was upset with me, or upset in general. It now really makes sense - it all probably threatened her getting promoted. Anyway, who could say 'No' to her with her extremely bossy and selfish chart? Warner apparently was also struggling for professional emancipation but I don't believe he got it. Ever since she got promoted she has been appearing 'aggressive' in business matters and no longer cares to be a team-player; does not let us or me know things that are of importance which in turn affects my work. There was a big team re-structuring, she only told me about it once the changes had already taken place. We were merged with another team, so I am now made to work with 4 new people.
This affected me in a big way as I was transitioned into working with the new people, who are all 'above me', which is ridiculous as I am one person who now has 4-5 superiors to report to. It's crazy and inefficient. As if Suess and Warner were not enough. Anyway, Warner and I really did stop working together, at least for now it seems. It came as a bit of a shock to me in the way it happened, I wasn't told I will be starting to work with the new people, I thought I would still remain with Warner and Suess. The entire situation caused me stress but was a relief to Suess and Warner as they had too much on their plates before this change. The effects of these events were going around in November.

Anyway, I was going to update on what my teammate had observed while he visited the office and had a chance to meet everyone in person. He sat with Suess and Warner and thought that there was definitely something going on between them two.
I think they are some type of soulmates to me. They both have an impact on my professional and personal life also. Warner in particular had a big influence over some of my personal attitudes and goals. I believe I also had some special impact on his. I feel our connection is very unique and important and the work related stuff were just the basis for something larger at play. We have Neptune conjunct the Composite Ascendant and Pluto sextile them from the 10th. That is powerful in its effect and feels so significant. I'm not too sure about him but it really spurred me up to think about our connection and then transform areas of my life that needed it. I do feel he was strongly affected by it too, in general I feel him close, perhaps due to all that occurred.
It was extremely difficult to cut through the Neptune fog at first and there was a lot of confusion between us but his presence was elevating for me and he actually helped me deal with some personal stuff, just by interacting with me from time to time. I believe our connection has some special healing and uplifting effect and I had never experienced anything even remotely close to it. In a matter of a few weeks with the help of just his influence I was able to completely wipe out a previous relationship that had a very bad impact on me. Prior to this I was not able to truly let go of it and get out of it despite a few 'soulmates' coming along to pull me out of its chains. They just couldn't stay around long enough, I guess, or their influence was not strong enough. Maybe I'm seeing this far too spiritually but it is how I feel it is. I was then more motivated to slowly get myself and my things together.
So focusing on this alone, I am very grateful to Warner but I obviously cannot voice my thankfulness to him, even though I kind of want to. I doubt he would able to understand it all and how he, or our connection impacted me, it was all a bit overblown anyway.
During Halloween he had the chance to see me on a picture for the first time. You could tell that prior to that his idea of me was wrong. I also noticed once again that he seems nicer than usual to me while Suess is out of the office. I think he is a bit afraid or mindful of her. My teammate said he appeared affectionate when he was bringing her cups of coffee.

And now the big news - I have been invited to visit them in 10 days. I'm super anxious. My Saturn Return is just about to get started, and I just had Saturn go over my Sun. Ah, how helpful that transit actually was. I don't think I used the most of this time but it was still very important to go over it.
Anyway, during my visit to their office - on the 18th and 19th - I and Warner seem to have similar transits which are pretty significant.
- I will have my first Saturn Return during this time, he would have just had Saturn sextile his natal Saturn.
- Saturn will be semi-sextile my natal Venus and approaching an inconjunct to my natal Moon. He will be having Saturn inconjunct his natal Venus and transiting Saturn will just be ascending to a semi-square to his natal Moon.
- The transiting node will be sextile our composite Pluto. Transiting Pluto is semi-sextile my Ascendant now, and if I've got his time accurately - Pluto should have just come off a square to his.
- Our natal Jupiters are both at 26-27 degrees in Taurus, so on these 2 days transiting Sun will be trining them. The transiting at the time Sun and Venus conjunction will be trine to our composite Jupiter.
- Transiting Venus will be conjunct our composite Saturn (who makes a trine to composite Venus, thus transiting Venus will be trine composite Venus, trine composite Mars and square the composite nodes).
- Transiting Saturn will square our composite Venus exact, inconjunct Mars, and sextile/trine the composite nodes.

Couldn't help but notice all of these patterns, they seem pretty significant and I definitely do not have anything that special going on in my composite with Suess at the time. It is being planned that I restart working on that difficult project that caused everyone stress, and we will be going over it during my visit. I suspect I will be bound to Warner's work once again, if he is the one who looks after this project.
But is that all these timely transits signify - business ventures?
Also, my Relocation Ascendant to their place of work falls close to Warner's South Node (along with my natal Sun and Uranus being there)... that's another karmic soulmate aspect, which I'm not fond of. I have my Ascendant conjunct the South Node of my ex (who made me miserable as explained above) within the same degrees. I think Warner might just be another Devil in disguise, and the nebulously good aspects of our connection might completely wear off once we finally meet in person. If so I would probably pray for Suess to break us apart if we are to resume working together or whatever.
It's interesting to note that for the past few months I have often been seeing his name at random times and places, and there is this thing - I really notice his name, I just get a really strong feeling for it when I see it, wondering what these signs are telling me. Never had this happen with anyone else, or definitely not to this extent.
In general though I've been unhappy with the whole new team situation, I'll see how things unfold after my visit but I've been feeling like I want to just tell them all off and join another team

Sorry for another long post that came about later than I had intended to, but at least it helped me vent a bit
So, it should be an interesting visit, despite me sh1tting some bricks about it.

Do you have any ideas or thoughts to share please?
And would you like me to keep updating the situation on these relationships, especially after my visit?

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it seems the Saturn aspects wil make the meeting very successful especially for you and warner as Saturn is square the node in your composite, I generally feel you position will be consolidated and you will not have as much uncertainty.

but it is still unclear about the dynamics between sues and warner.
todd

posted January 15, 2018 04:23 PM            

Anyway, here is the composite of me and her:

posted January 22, 2018 06:16 PM            

Here are my impressions after meeting my colleagues and Warner in person. Suess was not there so I did not meet her at all.
So Warner is a really funny guy I thought, a bit silly and also playing silly to get away with things. Not quite what I expected him to be but I was still very impressed and intrigued. Definitely exceeded my expectations. He did take care of me you could say, he made me feel welcome as he had promised but there was not much else beyond that. He was friendlier than the rest of the team, I can't say he was very professional though as all these people have a bad work ethic. We worked well together but there was not much communication beyond that, we didn't connect much on a personal level. I felt comfortable in his company but held myself back even though I craved more closeness with him. At least I was able to finally gain more clarity on the situation now having been in their environment.

It didn't feel like there is a personal or third party issue with Suess, obviously she wasn't there so I couldn't judge that properly, but from what I could gather being there, there didn't seem to be a conflict. In fact it looked like Warner is in a very good position now thanks to Suess' promotion, he seemed happy and content.