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ChildofVenus
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posted September 05, 2017 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there anything that can be done to help
with having miscommunication with someone? Especially when you like talking to the person? I really hate it because I always find myself really wanting to talk to them. But it seems like there is miscommunication. I really wish there was something I could do about it.

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posted September 06, 2017 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's more than 1 way to communicate with someone.

It doesn't always have to be direct and verbatim.

If there's always something off about your communication then try maybe talking about what's "off" about it. Start there. Communicate HOW YOU COMMUNICATE. Be completely open to self-improvement as well as improvement of your relationship overall.

You can always do something about it. As long as there's a connection and you genuinely like this person and enjoy having them in your life and vice versa, you can always improve the relationship in some way or another because the willingness and enthusiasm is there.

What sign in your mercury in?

& theirs?

What aspects do you two share?

If you can't always say the right thing or express yourself to your partner how you want to, try showing physical affection or gestures that equate to what you would have said. That's another form of communication, for example. Instead of saying "I love you". Maybe write them a poem or even of love letter.

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posted September 06, 2017 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
There's more than 1 way to communicate with someone.

It doesn't always have to be direct and verbatim.

If there's always something off about your communication then try maybe talking about what's "off" about it. Start there. Communicate HOW YOU COMMUNICATE. Be completely open to self-improvement as well as improvement of your relationship overall.

You can always do something about it. As long as there's a connection and you genuinely like this person and enjoy having them in your life and vice versa, you can always improve the relationship in some way or another because the willingness and enthusiasm is there.

What sign in your mercury in?

& theirs?

What aspects do you two share?

If you can't always say the right thing or express yourself to your partner how you want to, try showing physical affection or gestures that equate to what you would have said. That's another form of communication, for example. Instead of saying "I love you". Maybe write them a poem or even of love letter.


In composite we have Mercury conjunct Moon (I guess maybe this aspect might help to some degree)

He tells me that he was born in the early morning hours I wish I knew his exact birth time. So I would know what aspects his Moon makes to my planets. I'm guessing there has to be some positive aspects from his Moon hence the reason why we've been talking for so long even though we have miscommunication. When we argue it gets bad and we always say we are done talking to each other. But that doesn't last long because we end up talking again.

So I guess we must like each other at least otherwise we wouldn't even try. I don't know I just wish we could find a way around the communication problem. Me being the Saturn person I don't want to give up on our friendship. Because honestly even with all the arguing I do like him.

He's been going through financial issues and I've been helping him I just can't bring myself to walk away no matter how bad it gets.

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posted September 06, 2017 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So wait, it's not actually miscommunication, it's just a ton of arguing?

If that's the case then communication isn't really your issue. Maybe you both are just two sensitive souls trying to relate but you both know how to push each other's buttons as well?

The arguing could be for a number of a reasons.

A more earthly or practical individual would say you two just aren't compatible due to the constant arguing, but I'm more of a Neptunian type so I believe in "love has no limits". Arguing doesn't always equate to incompatibility. Sometimes we have to look below the surface and figure out the root cause of it all.

Moon conjunct mercury in composite is definitely a sensitive aspect from my understanding of it. It shows your relationship can easily express itself emotionally or to put it a better way, you have no problem expressing yourself, especially as the woman in this scenario. That's probably the trigger. I'm just going off of what little knowledge and experience I do have so take this all with a huge grain of salt. I believe it to be accurate, though. Just being honest about my Astrological background for a second.

Anyway, it sounds like there's some uranius and Pluto involved with that hot n' cold thing you guys have going. I know it all too well.

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posted September 06, 2017 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yanmorg:
So wait, it's not actually miscommunication, it's just a ton of arguing?

If that's the case then communication isn't really your issue. Maybe you both are just two sensitive souls trying to relate but you both know how to push each other's buttons as well?

The arguing could be for a number of a reasons.

A more earthly or practical individual would say you two just aren't compatible due to the constant arguing, but I'm more of a Neptunian type so I believe in "love has no limits". Arguing doesn't always equate to incompatibility. Sometimes we have to look below the surface and figure out the root cause of it all.

Moon conjunct mercury in composite is definitely a sensitive aspect from my understanding of it. It shows your relationship can easily express itself emotionally or to put it a better way, you have no problem expressing yourself, especially as the woman in this scenario. That's probably the trigger. I'm just going off of what little knowledge and experience I do have so take this all with a huge grain of salt. I believe it to be accurate, though. Just being honest about my Astrological background for a second.

Anyway, it sounds like there's some uranius and Pluto involved with that hot n' cold thing you guys have going. I know it all too well.


It's both arguing and miscommunication he'll say something and I might take it the wrong way. And then there is the issue where he wants me to "enrich my mind" as he says lol. He sends me books and pdf's to read he really tries to help with my intellect. He would like it if I had more intellectual conversations with him. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. And I do agree with him somewhat that I do need to read more. I admit that I don't read the books or content he sends me. I don't know why I don't try I guess because I feel like he's being bossy and my fixed signs don't like it lol.

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posted September 06, 2017 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a double whammy Sun square Moon, also in Composite so I'm dealing with that, specially cause I'm triple water and he's mostly air so I drive myself crazy.

I know astrologically maybe he's not a match for me, but somehow my intuition is telling me to stick around cause he grounds me like no other, he does not tolerate any drama and I'm super dramatic sometimes (most of the time).

Communicating feelings is really hard for him he has Moon conjunct Saturn natal, plus our squares in Synastry doesn't help, but he does show he cares, which sometimes I feel that's better though I would love for him to say it, I know his actions speak louder, I sometimes want to act like I'm mad at him or let him know that I want him to say he cares, but in all honesty I know that if I want him I need to work with his Moon conjunct Saturn, the fact that I know astrology somehow helps me understand that condition and I should be able to be a step ahead because of it.

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posted September 06, 2017 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't really like to read those things, I think you should tell him that you're not really interested. Granted, when someone you love likes something, we do tend to want to know more about it so we can share something with them, but really, if your heart isn't in it, then maybe find some other common ground you can bond over.

Mine loves talking about fabrics. While yes I do like the feel of some fabrics, it's not a passion of mine, and I'm fine hearing about it from him - I love how he lights up, but I'm not going to become a fabric expert any time soon on my own xD maybe by proxy of him talking about it. Likewise I talk to him about experiences he has NO inkling about. He isn't into what I'm into, but, again, he's happy enough hearing about it - though I don't expect him to be like me in that department.

But anyhow, the moral is that it's good to have defined boundaries and differences and love each other for those and accept those differences, and again, find some other commonalities, or just listen to him go on about his books.

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posted September 06, 2017 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
If you don't really like to read those things, I think you should tell him that you're not really interested. Granted, when someone you love likes something, we do tend to want to know more about it so we can share something with them, but really, if your heart isn't in it, then maybe find some other common ground you can bond over.

Mine loves talking about fabrics. While yes I do like the feel of some fabrics, it's not a passion of mine, and I'm fine hearing about it from him - I love how he lights up, but I'm not going to become a fabric expert any time soon on my own xD maybe by proxy of him talking about it. Likewise I talk to him about experiences he has NO inkling about. He isn't into what I'm into, but, again, he's happy enough hearing about it - though I don't expect him to be like me in that department.

But anyhow, the moral is that it's good to have defined boundaries and differences and love each other for those and accept those differences, and again, find some other commonalities, or just listen to him go on about his books.


I am willing to compromise because I like having him as a friend. I do find some things he talks about interesting.

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posted September 06, 2017 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My child....

It's impossible to have a Moon/Mercury conj. in your composite seeing the degrees of both your Moons and Merc.

Confusing it with another compo conj by accident?

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posted September 06, 2017 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My child....

It's impossible to have a Moon/Mercury conj. in your composite seeing the degrees of both your Moons and Merc.

Confusing it with another compo conj by accident?


I don't know his birth time so the degrees of his moon probably isn't accurate. But my birth time is correct. But when I change his birth time when doing the composite chart. The Moon conjunct Mercury aspect always shows up regardless of what I change it to.

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posted September 07, 2017 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooww wait a second, you mean HIS moon conjuct compo metcury?

In case ^, you shouldn't call that "compo merc/moon conj.' as it suggests an embracing of both planets in the composite.

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posted September 07, 2017 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oooww wait a second, you mean HIS moon conjuct compo metcury?

In case ^, you shouldn't call that "compo merc/moon conj.' as it suggests an embracing of both planets in the composite.


I'm not sure what you mean when I select the composite chart it shows moon conjunct mercury. The composite chart midpoint method. That's the option I always select.

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posted September 07, 2017 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 07, 2017 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Child, the Composite Mercury must be at 18 taurus (= midpoint between your 15 Aries mercury and his 21 Gemini mercury) .

The composite Moon must be around 29 Pisces (= midpoint between your Moon at 12 aqua and his moon at around 16 Taurus).

Ok, a planet at 29 pisces and one at 18 taurus, is not a conjunction, do you see that?

Yes, I also use the compo midpoint method.

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Can you confirum that your composite Moon is at 29 pisces and your composite Mercury is at 18 taurus?

Despite his unknown TOB it can never become a conjunction.

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posted September 07, 2017 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Child, the Composite Mercury must be at 18 taurus (= midpoint between your 15 Aries mercury and his 21 Gemini mercury) .

The composite Moon must be around 29 Pisces (= midpoint between your Moon at 12 aqua and his moon at around 16 Taurus).

Ok, a planet at 29 pisces and one at 18 taurus, is not a conjunction, do you see that?

Yes, I also use the compo midpoint method.

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Can you confirum that your composite Moon is at 29 pisces and your composite Mercury is at 18 taurus?

Despite his unknown TOB it can never become a conjunction.


Ok this is the composite chart maybe I'm missing something. Says that the Moon and Mercury are both in Capricorn. Am I pulling up the wrong chart? On astro.com I select Composite Chart, Midpoint - method (2) from the drop down menu.

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posted September 07, 2017 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ you're definitely doing something wrong here, it can never be your composite.

But What?

Are you sure u're selecting HIM and YOU while making this compo midpoint? (check that again)

Otherwise give me the data of him and you (just and only your TOB & birthplace, the rest I know) and I will check and if you want put the right compo here.

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posted September 07, 2017 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ you're definitely doing something wrong here, it can never be your composite.

But What?

Are you sure u're selecting HIM and YOU while making this compo midpoint? (check that again)

Otherwise give me the data of him and you (just and only your TOB & birthplace, the rest I know) and I will check and if you want put the right compo here.



His actual birth town is not listed on Astro.com. But it's Buenos Ayres which is a town in Trinidad and Tobago. He was born on September 22nd 1974. My time of birth is 2:49pm in Detroit Michigan. But I pulled the composite chart up on a different site that has his town listed. And I still see a Moon/Mercury conjunction that's odd.

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posted September 07, 2017 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 07, 2017 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

I already suspected this,

BUT the guy you put up in the syna wheel in your post on this thread is a Cancerrrrrr

not the 22 sept guy he?

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posted September 07, 2017 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

I already suspected this,

BUT the guy you put up in the syna wheel in your post on this thread is a Cancerrrrrr

not the 22 sept guy he?


Wow! I just realized I did actually put up the wrong chart. Yeah it was for a different guy he's a Cancer. This is the right synastry chart.


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posted September 13, 2017 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 22, 2017 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The real reason is that your mercury is in Aries and the other mercury is in Libra. Opposition by SIGN and definitely there will be a miscommunication here and there UNLESS both of you try to open the mind a little bit to accept differences (the style on how to deliver words, etc) and try to listen each other patiently without constantly interrupting.

Aries mercury tend to have a little bit aggressive tone in their speak and Libra mercury hates that style in communication. Libra mercury listens to the voice tone before really listening (although they still listen but you can immediately see they start to hint you that they get annoyed). Then Libra mercury will try to tell you their uncomfortable feelings in a way that Aries mercury finds it offending as Virgo/Libra combo likes to correcting (which can be seen as bossy to some people) or giving a suggestion that, well, Aries mercury tend to have a hard time to really listening to any suggestions as they only listen to themselve. lol.

Aries mercury likes a little bit argument, this is why you found yourself still like to communicate with the person. Although maybe the person secretly hate to communicate with you but can't help being "a nice person" ALL THE TIME.

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posted September 22, 2017 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The real reason is that your mercury is in Aries and the other mercury is in Libra. Opposition by SIGN and definitely there will be a miscommunication here and there UNLESS both of you try to open the mind a little bit to accept differences (the style on how to deliver words, etc) and try to listen each other patiently without constantly interrupting.

Aries mercury tend to have a little bit aggressive tone in their speak and Libra mercury hates that style in communication. Libra mercury listens to the voice tone before really listening (although they still listen but you can immediately see they start to hint you that they get annoyed). Then Libra mercury will try to tell you their uncomfortable feelings in a way that Aries mercury finds it offending as Virgo/Libra combo likes to correcting (which can be seen as bossy to some people) or giving a suggestion that, well, Aries mercury tend to have a hard time to really listening to any suggestions as they only listen to themselve. lol.

Aries mercury likes a little bit argument, this is why you found yourself still like to communicate with the person. Although maybe the person secretly hate to communicate with you but can't help being "a nice person" ALL THE TIME.


I will admit that I can be aggressive when I speak. I try not to be but it's just how I am. I have been trying to listen to him and not actually get so aggressive. He really hated communicating with me I don't think he still would be after his long. I do get along with Libras to a certain extend. I've been friends with a Libra guy for 16 years.

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