posted September 23, 2017 01:41 AM            

Anyone else encounter someone like this that can offer experience for how to talk to this woman? She is rather shy and it's extremely difficult to hold a conversation. We both are into astrology, but I'm almost certain she only knows about sun signs, I want to teach her more and blow her mind, but I really want to hold off until I can get her to agree to go on a date with me. I'm inside(blue).

posted September 26, 2017 01:14 AM            

Her: Feb. 3, 1999 Janesville, WI 8:40:52AM(Approximate) 9:23AM(According to her Mom)

I'll post a pdf file with declinations later, but for now...

Me: South Node 9deg55'43"S Her: Venus 10deg10'56"S Parallel

Me: South Node 9deg55'43"S Her: Mars 10deg35'24"S Parallel

posted October 04, 2017 05:32 PM            

The synastry is colored by Pluto factors and Venus factors, so it is good to go slow and watch for possessiveness or obsession and back away from that. However, those Pluto factors are mostly flowing.

Good job in narrowing down the sign. Based on how you've described her to me the mother's time quote supports the idea she is Pisces rising. If I understand your picture of her, she is definitely not Aries rising. Therefore, the mother's time quote supports an earlier Asc in Pisces.

A synastry figure here I really like is your Moon trine her Sun-Mercury-Uranus. This indicates that you'll naturally be very appreciative of her talent and unique mind and way of expressing herself. I'd use that as the basis for building further friendship and common ground. Support her creative efforts and be a fan of her music, etc.

Your Jupiter is opposite her Moon. This is another excellent aspect in which your tendency to be somewhat particular (Venus in Virgo) can be turned into allowance for how she can be the same in her own way (Moon in Virgo). Jupiter-Moon connections are where we learn to be generous with how the other person really feels and how they are inside.

Your Sun is sextile her Moon.
Your Mars is trine her Moon.
Your Venus is sextile her Mars.
This support mutual warmth and "chemistry."

Your Asc is trine her Venus.
Further supports friendship and mutual affection.

Your Neptune is sextile her Venus-Mars, which brings in a higher level of admiration and appreciation. I'm sure she can seem mesmerizing to you. Even greater appreciation of her talent and overall appeal.

There are challenges like:

- your Uranus square her Moon, which may mean at times you fall really out of step and go totally in different directions;

- your Venus contra-parallel her Pluto which could lean you towards obsession/possessiveness if you don't catch it and let it go;

- your Pluto conjunct her Mars can be an aspect of merging of aims and efforts/inner and outer, but will require patience and tolerance and first establishing what the common ground of action is with totally freedom allowed for both. If you don't, this Aquarian/Uranian just won't respond. She's a freedom-oriented person whether she says so or not.

The main challenge, however, is communication. Your Mercury is in three challenging aspects to her planets (Venus, Mars, Neptune), so there is a setup for miscommunication unless you prioritize listening and personal clarity about what you want in a relationship. I think your Moon trine her Sun-Mercury-Uranus does help make up for this and create a good basis for understanding her at an emotional level so that you 'get the picture' of her intentions so that words are not always needed.

Your Mercury in Leo may turn to an attempt at commanding at times or communicating too willfully. Really, I think this set of challenging aspects to your Mercury is as much a challenge to flexibility of your thinking as anything to do with words themselves or how you communicate. If you can be honest and respectful, there is still a basis for healthy communication and two mutually appreciative minds.

posted October 04, 2017 06:56 PM            

Do you really think either of us would experience that Venus of mine contra-parallel her Pluto? I though it was best to have it under 1 degree?

Would that also mean I should consider her Mars contra-parallel my Venus?

What about the textiles from my Uranus to her Sun and Mercury? Are they to wide to bother with?

posted October 05, 2017 05:17 PM            

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Thanks Kannon!

Do you really think either of us would experience that Venus of mine contra-parallel her Pluto? I though it was best to have it under 1 degree?

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For synastry, it might be stretched a bit wide. Just notice if those dynamics are there.

Would that also mean I should consider her Mars contra-parallel my Venus?[/quote]

Good point. Actually, I think it would be more accurate to include that aspect if either.

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What about the textiles from my Uranus to her Sun and Mercury? Are they to wide to bother with?

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I counted your Uranus sextile her Sun, but her Mercury position is not in that sextile.

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Most importantly, would you consider this woman to be a flaker or excuse-maker after making plans to go on a date? I've met plenty of women that have done that to me in the past, I don't want to add her to the list, I really like this girl, but my biggest fear is she will play games, I'm too old for that bs.

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It is possible she's too nice and friendly (people-pleaser) to give a direct 'no' when she really wants to, but then follow her feelings later. If you want the best chance with her, take the time to find out what she really enjoys doing and let her plan it. Ultimately, if she's just not feeling it, nothing can force it.

Dealing with Aquarius types can be a challenge. I advise you let her take the lead in many ways, but pay attention to pick up on subtle cues she may offer.

Cancerian folks (like you) are generally interested in only investing in relationships in which home/family/nesting have a very strong possibility. Personally, I'd consider this one a friendship, as her energies are strongly Aquarian and Uranian enough that I doubt seriously if that is her first priority. She certainly won't go about it directly as you do. Aquarius types prefer loose friendship. They're group oriented, so they don't deeply consider and respond to the needs of individuals.

If you'd really like to keep the friendship and the doors open to more, I really recommend drawing back to a posture of friendship with her and continue looking elsewhere. The idea is that often an indirect or at least non-pressure approach works better (with Aquarius types). Look for how you can become part of her group dynamic without ingratiating yourself into her family circle.

posted October 05, 2017 08:27 PM            

I'm tired of having such strong "chemistry" with these girls, everything starts out great, then BAM, suddenly everything goes to crap. What can I do to break this cycle?

posted October 08, 2017 05:15 PM            

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So what is it about me and my natal/progressed chart that brings these types of women to me?

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Progressed Saturn 3SAG06-Stationary/Direct in still in near exact square to your natal Venus. Prog Saturn is moving at under 0°01' per year, which means a few years (about 3) to go before it is over with this hard aspect to natal Venus.

I suggest using that time to thoughtfully consider and write out what love means to you, what a close relationship/marriage means to you, and what you can do to be ready to sustain such a relationship. Read, learn, work on yourself -- not because there is anything 'wrong' with you (there's not), but because this Saturn influence upon your natal Venus is calling for it.

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I'm tired of having such strong "chemistry" with these girls, everything starts out great, then BAM, suddenly everything goes to crap. What can I do to break this cycle?

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I'd just say patience + taking time to notice any patterns that you want to change. You can do that by your intention and an intelligent use of your consciousness. I had to change my pattern of attraction, because years ago I kept falling in love with various kinds of unavailable/incompatible women. I was continuing that pattern even after I had healed from depression and was moving on with my life. So I used some hypnosis audio aimed at changing the pattern. I also changed my appearance as an outer expression of my change of intention (started growing a beard in my mid-30s that already had gray in it).

I can't tell you what to do, but take a deep, but non-critical look at your pattern against the backdrop of what kind of relationship you want. Change anything about yourself or that pattern that you decide you can improve. Of course, I'm not talking about changing anything to suit any particular person -- just you.

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Am I just destined to do my own thing for the rest of my life?

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No. There is a mate for everyone who wants one. We just may have to wait longer than we'd like for it.

Also, we carry our 'conditions' and expectations for others in a relationship -- subconsciously. They read that and may decide we're not for them. That's just free will on their part, not something wrong with you. We also subconsciously read their version of that and may on some level decide it's not worth the effort with that person.

posted October 09, 2017 03:16 AM            

Would Uranus also play a role? Most of the people I work with are either Aquarius or Libra, I'm guessing Libras are because of my progressed Venus in Libra? It seems as though all the women coming into my life now are Aquarius with a Libra or two in between, even the guys are pretty much Libras with an Aquarius or two in between. So is my progressed Ascendant/Descendant playing that much of an important role over my natal Ascendant/Desendant?

@Merc

posted October 16, 2017 10:19 PM            

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@Cannon

Would Uranus also play a role? Most of the people I work with are either Aquarius or Libra, I'm guessing Libras are because of my progressed Venus in Libra?

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It's simpler than that. Your natal Moon is in Libra, so you have a natural affinity for Libra types.

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So is my progressed Ascendant/Descendant playing that much of an important role over my natal Ascendant/Desendant?

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No. The natal Asc/DC axis (and rulers) is always the root of the relational dynamic.