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sunflowermoonflower
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posted December 03, 2017 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all!
What does it mean in composite when Virgo ascendant is exactly conjunct Nessus, and Gemini midheaven is exactly conjunct Pholus? How relevant are those?

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posted December 04, 2017 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 04, 2017 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome . Those are both pretty powerful asteroids, especially when conjunct the angles. Nessus doesn't have the best connotations. What is the relationship like?

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posted December 06, 2017 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's not a physical relationship, because I don't know him personally. BUT it is someone who changed me and influences me greatly. Opened me psychically and I've been having spiritual experiences with this person for a while, so I'm trying to slowly figure out astrologically the undercurrent that is between us. Of course, if and when I get to get into a personal contact with him, it would be useful to know all those stuff. So it's hypothetical and potential, but any help is appreciated.

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posted December 06, 2017 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Planets first, asteroids second. I think the planetary energies are much more powerful and should be your main focus. Too much energy is wasted dissecting asteroids when the answers are usually clear with the planets only.

Post your composite if you would like

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posted December 06, 2017 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is. Thank you!


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posted December 07, 2017 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should I bump this so it doesn't sink idk?

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posted December 09, 2017 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone??

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posted December 15, 2017 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would someone be kind enough to interpret this chart for me? It's kinda important.

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posted December 16, 2017 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi sunflowermoonflower

you spiritual/psychic connections is shown by the vertex axis conjunct the descendant/ascendant axis.
the vertex is the plane of "karma"/consciousness for all forms of consciousness . when the vertex is on the ascendant axis, the people involved have similar otherworldly/synchronistic experiences. sometimes these altered reality feelings illuminate the personal plane of the individuals , but as the vertex encompasses all consciousness, sometimes the visions or feeling experienced do not pertain to ones earth plane. hence there can be much confusion because sometimes one is given spiritual light but at other times the lessons to be learned are not applicable to the present life.so the supernatural affect he had on you is described by the vertex/descendant conjunction .
nessus on the ascendant usually is a problematic aspect as it tends toward control and domination. very often it affect is abusive.in a spiritual perspective Nessus would a have a healing effect but it would e of a psychic nature rather than a medical framework.

you might post the composite with orcus,sedna,h13,ceres,eros,

you might also add your named asteroid and his named asteroid.

this is a person you haven't met yet you are interested in the personal significance if you do meet. this is very theoretical and there is the real possibility you will never meet,and as such you are on a fools quest. but this is a very intriguing question for a composite and I will look further if you add the suggested additions.

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posted December 17, 2017 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Todd!

First of all thank you very much for taking the time to analyze this chart, it is very much appreciated.

Yes, there is a sense of vagueness and confusion, because I keep having these spiritual experiences which are profound, but what’s the purpose of it all if there’s no direct contact. Like, what do I do with it, you know, why does it even happen then if it can’t be applied to real life.

I understand that Nessus is the notorious one, but honestly, nothing of what I’ve experienced feels abusive, controlling or revengeful towards me. There IS intensity though, and some deep dark stuff surfacing through at times, but none of it feels personal. Like it’s not between us as individuals, but more of something that comes from the outside, from elsewhere. Or as if it is coming from previous experiences each of us separately had with other people. That could maybe be the Vertex axis of “all consciousness” that is being felt.

There definitely is a great amount of healing psychic effect, so I can easily see Nessus interpreted in that way. I’ve read that Pholus is the explosive one, so that one caught my rookie eye too, being connected to Midheaven, I wonder how it plays out.

When you mentioned named asteroids, maybe it is interesting to add that in synastry his named asteroid and his Pluto are both conjunct my Scorpio ascendant to a degree. By the way, his name is Theo, so Theodora is the closest to it that I could find.

I very well understand this is high theory by now, I’m just looking to understand it better from every angle, so why not see what the planets can tell me about it too. Then I can compare it with my own intuitive guidance I’ve had so far.

Here are the asked aspects below.



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posted December 17, 2017 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay the added information is at least personalizing this composite.

maybe it is interesting to add that in synastry his named asteroid and his Pluto are both conjunct my Scorpio ascendant to a degree.

this implies a past life connection. so ity may be that is whhuy you are comtacted. the vertex is the plane of all consciousness and it is th eplane that trnamittinf the thought forms of past life connection. but as I said the vertex is a combination of all underentitated earth consciousness. the node focuses or isolates the streams of undifferentiated consciousness that apply to specific human/soul consciousness.
so in your composite psyche is conjunct to the node and eros is conjunct the south node.

this tends to shows past life love or marriage life together. in addition the Sedna/Jupiter and Sedna /mercury midpoint are square to the node and the eros/psyche opposition. if you were to meet it seems there would be an instant rapport and attraction

this implies important knowledge/truth is being transmitted to you by him.
nessus on the ascendant ,now, seems to indicate a warning that there may be serious trouble ahead.

you might, if you haven't already, see how your charts lay across the composite chart.

I analyzed a similar composite for myself one time. it had to do with the book The Name Of the Rose. this book affected me strongly that I read back to back 5 times in a row. so I was sure there had to be a connection between me and the author,Ecco. the composite showed the north node conjunct my sun/mercury conjunct to a degree. so it made absolute sense as to why I identifies so intimately with the novel.

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posted December 17, 2017 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, your reaction to Umberto Eco’s work is fascinating and I’m glad you mentioned it! That means you can probably understand how deeply I’ve been struck just by seeing his face for the first time (and later hearing his music). Didn’t know who he was at all, yet I was left with all those intense emotions to deal with on my own. He’s recognizable, but not really famous to a point of being unreachable, so there is a chance we might come into contact some day, however small it may be.

Some things you said parallel some of my intuitive findings. Especially when it comes to the loving feelings towards him. I mean can you feel the love towards someone you don’t even know?

Kinda apprehensive of Nessus warning about serious trouble, though. That one I am yet to figure out. There is a feeling of fatality when it comes to him, as if it’s all or nothing, but not in a possessive way, but rather exhilarating, liberating and expressive. I don’t know how much of it could be related to Nessus...

“you might, if you haven't already, see how your charts lay across the composite chart”

I don’t know if you have the time to look at those, but if you don’t, can you please tell me how can I calculate that? On astro.com there is an option for Composite+Natals, they print three charts next to each other. Am I supposed to study them just by eye? Is there some software that could combine them? I’m afraid I can’t imagine the overlay in my head nicely, my only experience in astrology is typing aspects into google and trying to figure them out from what can be read online.

Thank you so much, you made me feel less crazy about my feelings and intuition. <3

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posted December 18, 2017 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes one has to do it by eye, but it is not really to difficult .post the natals and composition combo and I will take a look.

my connection with Ecco was obviously not romantic but as a astrologer I just had to investigate how Ecco could have created a character that resonated so deeply with me.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio LOL

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posted December 18, 2017 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you kidding me! Someone said that exact quote to me in a completely different, unrelated conversation just an hour before I read it in your post. How often do people go around quoting Shakespeare. Not in my daily life. This is a sign, haha.

Well of course, it doesn’t have to be romantic to affect you deeply, but it’s just all so fascinating, how it turns out and how we manage to recognize some things, as if there’s a piece of our own soul somewhere in them waving hello.

Okay this is the combo from astro.com, but it is too small, and when I try to zoom it, it gets too blurry. So here’s both natals separately, and the composite you have above in previous post that you analyzed. If this isn’t what I was supposed to post, tell me and I’ll fix it.



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posted December 19, 2017 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
his mercury/Nessus conjunction is conjunct to the comp node/psyche.

again he seems to be sending dark many cautionary vibrations


the comp mercury/Jupiter conjunction is conjunct your vertex.

the purpose seem to e a transfer of knowledge to you,knowledge from a higher plane... but why?

and his Lilith is opposed to comp venus

it seems he is subconsciously sending emotional loving vibrsations to you, always why?

his Uranus is conjunct comp Venus
this seems to be the energy path way that is striking you so emotionally

his moon vertex opposition is conjunct you node axis
again showing the intimate connection of your subconscious and unconscious energies

the composite sun is conjunct your Sednas

this is about as definitive an aspect as is possible. it shows a common devotion to truth. hwo type of truths and why I can't say.

these aspects seem to describe the various feelings and energies you experience....... but still why????

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posted December 19, 2017 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, why indeed!! Forever puzzled about it.

Maybe it will get clear only when (if) we meet, maybe some things need yet to develop in order for the whole picture to be revealed and to show what truth it is. But for now there is this exchange of loving energies and healing.

As for the dark cautionary vibrations, maybe he’s yet to warn me about something in the future, who knows. For now I use to get information about him, I feel like I just know stuff about him. And I think his Mercury/Nessus conjunction describes this thing very well - he feels he’s the dark one, that there’s this vast darkness inside him that he doesn’t show but identifies a lot with, and he feels guilty about it. As he despises himself at times. Like The Beast from the Beauty And The Beast „don’t look at me I’m horrible“ vibes. Yet I don’t turn away, I just see it as one aspect of him. In each of us there is both light and dark, right.

On the other hand, there is so many loving caring vibes that I truly feel like I love him, if you can love someone you don’t personally know. This is maybe weird to read and might seem delusional, but I’ve been through so much with this and had many confirmations that the only thing that was left for me is to just accept that I honestly love this person (soul). Denying the connection didn’t work well in my case, it was like I was denying my own existence and it led to a major depression.

I cannot talk about this to anybody without sounding like a lunatic. And until we get into personal contact, I just won’t know what’s it all about. What is this truth, I can’t deduce or feel out fully on my own.

I’m gonna post the synastry just in case , so if you find something interesting in it, please do tell. And that’s about it, I guess, I’ve exhausted my resources and can only wait to see what the time will bring.

I am the inner wheel, and in the aspect table I am the 1st person horizontally. And the other is the another version of synastry, I don’t know which do you prefer.





Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Todd.

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posted December 19, 2017 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won't laugh if you don't laugh .
I love lizabeth salander

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posted December 19, 2017 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the last one to laugh about it, believe me. She's a fictional character, right? I haven't read the books or watched the movies, sorry.

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posted December 20, 2017 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sunflowermoonflower:
I'm the last one to laugh about it, believe me. She's a fictional character, right? I haven't read the books or watched the movies, sorry.

yeah
the girl with the dragon tattoo

but she died when stieg Larson died, the author

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posted December 20, 2017 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. What does she represent to you? Did you get to the why?

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posted December 20, 2017 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sunflowermoonflower:
Interesting. What does she represent to you? Did you get to the why?

you need to read the first book ,the girl with the dragon tattoo.i can't explain enchantment and awe. todd

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posted December 20, 2017 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflowermoonflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll put it on my reading list.

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posted December 20, 2017 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sunflowermoonflower:
I'll put it on my reading list.

I guarantee you will not put it down

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posted December 29, 2017 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the book recommendation!

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