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astrosaz
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posted December 08, 2017 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you have synastry with someone and their sun and moon isn't touched, does that mean you don't touch their soul (sun) and heart (moon) ?

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posted December 08, 2017 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to make a correction, the Sun and Moon are known as the "luminaries", while the inner planets are Mercury, Venus and Mars. Generally you do need some Moon connections. If there are no Sun aspects then Jupiter or 9th house contacts can substitute.

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posted December 09, 2017 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
If you have synastry with someone and their sun and moon isn't touched, does that mean you don't touch their soul (sun) and heart (moon) ?

YES, in my experience doing charts, my Friend, more so the Moon, but the Sun, too.

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posted December 10, 2017 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah sorry wasn't sure if it was luminaries or inner planets, but don't think I can edit the title

So if you don't 'touch' their moon but they touch yours with for example - a trine from mars, is that a one sided 'heart' connection?

And also what about sun/moon declinations or 4th house placements or positive trines to the moon in a composite chart, would that make up for lack of action between luminaries?

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posted December 10, 2017 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand the question, my Friend.

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posted December 10, 2017 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

"So if you don't 'touch' their moon but they touch yours with for example - a trine from mars, is that a one sided 'heart' connection? "

Yeah I was wondering this exactly too, because it's for case for me and a friend.

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posted December 10, 2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturus90:

"So if you don't 'touch' their moon but they touch yours with for example - a trine from mars, is that a one sided 'heart' connection? "

Yeah I was wondering this exactly too, because it's for case for me and a friend.


Yea, if YOU don't touch their moon, then YOUR Moon is unaspected to their chart and, in my opinion, the relationship will not have simpatico, ever. That is my experience doing charts.

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posted December 10, 2017 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't touch my ex-best friend's moon and she doesn't neither touches mine (no conjunctions, but some aspects) and we really got along together... Because we knew each other in past lifes. I've got my South Node conjunct her Mars and Venus. There's this, SN, too. South Node is a great thing for bonding and reminding our bond.

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posted December 10, 2017 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for French Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I agree with that, I mean my best friend doesn't touch my Moon from her Sun or Moon while my Sun touches her Moon and we have a very deep relationship and she actually brought out my emotional side, which is pretty amazing since I'm an Aquarius moon ^^ (Unless you're talking about a Moon aspect from any planet ?)


Also, there's a guy with whom I have a Sun-Moon conjunction DW and we're actually not that close and we're absolutely not emotional with each other or anything (Might be because it's with Capricorn and Aquarius but anywyay) so I don't know, maybe it depends on the signs and people involved ?

(I don't have much experience, just talking about the people around me ^^)

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posted December 10, 2017 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by French Girl:
I don't know if I agree with that, I mean my best friend doesn't touch my Moon from her Sun or Moon while my Sun touches her Moon and we have a very deep relationship and she actually brought out my emotional side, which is pretty amazing since I'm an Aquarius moon ^^ (Unless you're talking about a Moon aspect from any planet ?)


Also, there's a guy with whom I have a Sun-Moon conjunction DW and we're actually not that close and we're absolutely not emotional with each other or anything (Might be because it's with Capricorn and Aquarius but anywyay) so I don't know, maybe it depends on the signs and people involved ?

(I don't have much experience, just talking about the people around me ^^)



totally agree, and my Sun touches a guy's Moon and I really don't have anything in common with him. (My Venus is square his Venus, that's maybe why. ). It happened an other time, same thing (with the Sun-Moon conjunction)... There are many others factors (in astrology and in general).

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posted December 10, 2017 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for French Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturus90:
I don't touch my ex-best friend's moon and she doesn't neither touches mine (no conjunctions, but some aspects) and we really got along together... Because we knew each other in past lifes. I've got my South Node conjunct her Mars and Venus. There's this, SN, too. South Node is a great thing for bonding and reminding our bond.

Yeah, there's that too ! I just checked and my best friend's Moon actually conjuncts my SN (And I've always felt that she's a soulmate because we've both grown a lot thanks to the other)

So yeah, I don't think that not having Sun/Sun, Moon/Moon or Sun/Moon aspects is that bad because there are always other aspects, and overlays and also it depends on the person, I mean, I know that I need more Mercury aspects than some people because that's something that's really important to me so yeah, it's really important to check each person's natal chart first ..

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posted December 10, 2017 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by astrosaz:
[b] If you have synastry with someone and their sun and moon isn't touched, does that mean you don't touch their soul (sun) and heart (moon) ?

YES, in my experience doing charts, my Friend, more so the Moon, but the Sun, too.


Could you please further explain this? Thanks, Ami.

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posted December 10, 2017 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yea, if YOU don't touch their moon, then YOUR Moon is unaspected to their chart and, in my opinion, the relationship will not have simpatico, ever. That is my experience doing charts.


I meant this. Sorry wrong quote earlier. Could you please further explain this? Thanks, Ami!

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posted December 10, 2017 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that planet which is unaspected to the chart of the person will not be understood by the partner. Hence, there will be an emptiness and, also, a sadness. I don't think a relationship can be close and happy, such as a marriage if any planet is unaspected to the chart of the other person. There can be friendships, maybe, but if it is personal planets, I don't see how it can be a close, emotionally bonded relationship.

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posted December 10, 2017 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(to "French Girl") : I think maybe you knew each other in one or maybe several past lives, for sure. Because you're best friends, and her Moon is conjunct your South Node. Maybe she was your mother, because the Moon... Or maybe not, only a psychic specialized in past lives could maybe know.

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posted December 10, 2017 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for French Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Ami Anne, but when do you consider that a planet is unaspected ? Do you call it unaspected when it touches 0 planet ? Is it unaspected if it touches an angle or an asteroid (which it does, there are so many asteroids, it has to touch at least one) ? Or do you consider it unaspected if it doesn't touch any personal planet ? Or even if the luminaries don't touch each other ? (I'm really curious about this)


@arcturus90 I hadn't thought about this but now that you mention it, I really wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, I mean she's always been very caring and giving with me (might be her Cancer sun/Pisces Moon though) but I've noticed that she can sometimes also be a bit condescending with me, as if I'm a child who can't handle herself ... For instance, ever since I told her about the trip I'm going to next year, she hasn't really been supportive, she just tells me to do this or do that and have you checked this or checked that etc ... So it's really interesting, thanks for pointing it out !

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posted December 10, 2017 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unaspected if it does not touch any planet in the chart of the other person.

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posted December 11, 2017 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for French Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, thanks ! I didn't know if I should count the generational planets or not so thank you ^^ (and what if the only aspect to the Moon for instance is with the Ascendant of the other person, would you count it ? Since the angles are very personal)

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posted December 11, 2017 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by French Girl:
Okay, thanks ! I didn't know if I should count the generational planets or not so thank you ^^ (and what if the only aspect to the Moon for instance is with the Ascendant of the other person, would you count it ? Since the angles are very personal)

I would count generational planets because every planet is a SLICE of us and people close to us, like marriage, need to understand all parts of us.

No, the ASC would not make up for lack of planet aspects, in my opinion

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posted December 11, 2017 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for French Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, thank you ! That's interesting

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posted December 11, 2017 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just going to throw this in there - it's always worth checking declinations as well.

Eg, I have a friend with whom we have various sun and moon connections, eg sun opposite sun, his sun/mercury/saturn/pluto square my moon, his moon conj my mars/NN etc etc

There's lots of ptolemaic stuff, but nothing traditionally 'positive'. But actually our moons are parallel, which explains the positivity and sympatico that's not present at first sight.

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posted December 11, 2017 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if you have moon/moon contra parallel ( is contra parallel negative ? )

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posted December 12, 2017 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never got into parallels, so can't speak to those. My intuition is that if we look at too many things, we obscure the basics and everything becomes "good". This is not practical and for me, everything is about making the chart practical and REAL for life.

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posted May 15, 2018 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrosaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So can someone love you even though you don't stimulate their moon?

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posted May 15, 2018 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so yes, touching each other's sun and moon is very important.

But my partner and I have Moon Squine Moon exact and his MOON sextiles my PRIAPUS, My Priapus semisextiles his SUN. Priapus is a very sensitive point and some have referred to Priapus as a super moon.

So your moon may be aspecting his sun or his moon but via a less known aspect or it may be aspecting Priapus which is like a super moon.

Add the Dark Moon Lilith H58 to the mix, maybe he aspects your Dark Moon Lilith instead, also a sensitive point.

I would say that if you are missing sun/moon or moon/moon in synastry check Priapus to see if Priapus is aspecting their sun or moon.

I feel a strong emotional pull and connection with someone whose moon conjuncts my moon widely by almost 12 degrees and his moon opposes my sun by 4d. His moon and dark moon lilith trine my Jupiter conjunct Uranus. But his PRIAPUS trines my SUN and sextiles my MOON, squares my venus conjuncts mars, and opposes my Psyche. My Priapus sextiles exact his sun conjunct venus so we have a Priapus aspect sun double whammy.

You get attached quickly when Priapus hits the luminaries, I think it is like super moon.

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