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AquaLeo29
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posted December 12, 2017 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How does one feel when his/her Saturn is unaspected by luminaries and inner planets of his/her partner?

There are some aspects to outer planets (from Jupiter to Pluto) also with AC and MC points.

Meanwhile, partner’s Saturn is aspecting Sun and Moon (along with similar outer planets and points mentioned above) of this person.

Please share your experiences.

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posted December 12, 2017 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is synastry, so I'm moving it to Interpersonal Astrology.

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posted December 12, 2017 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturus90     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe there is a lack of interest or trust from the partner for whom Saturn is unaspected by any planet of the other person (and not only inner planets and luminaries)...
I think my natal Saturn is unaspected by any planet of a man I know, plus is inconjunct his Saturn, which means a huge lack of trust from me, and his Saturn is aspects to my Mars and maybe other planets of mine so that may be why he trusts me more than I trust him. And I find him uninteresting, boring... Saturn is being interested, trusting, fidelity.

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posted December 12, 2017 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I consider my Saturn unspected because it doesn't make any major aspects with anything else in my chart tighter than 10 orbs. The only exception is the quincunx it makes with Moon, I don't know if it counts.
I am considered quite pantient except of a huge part that has to do with 6th H which is a very important part of our chart when it comes to routine and work. I have Uranus in there which is one of the worst placement for Uranus, so the impatience I have in the matters of the 6th and 7th H I believe are due to Uranus in there and not due to the lack of Saturn aspects.
People tend to say that the harder you try for something the more you appreciate it.. I could never understand it because I am the exact opposite.. The easier something comes to me the more I love it. If I have to try hard for something I stop wanting it before I even get/achieve it.
Mind you I have 7th H Capricorn ruled by Saturn which is in my 8th H.
I am shocked by how responsible, careful, serious, suspicious, late/slow, blocked and unlucky I am in the matters of the 8th H.. Saturn has a really bad effect on me no matter in what way it touches my chart (be it transits, synastry etc). It is also the only planet that even when it is transiting an empty house and doesn't make any aspect to my natal planets I still feel its presence. I can not get rid of it even when there are positive aspects like trine and sextile! And honestly I never get the supposed rewards. NEVER. No matter how hard I am trying.. in fact it is like the more I try the worse it gets.
In a synastry it feels like a heavy weight that I feel in the air but it is not there since the beginning. It"s unraveled after some time like maybe a year or so. I find that something is wrong with the supposed stability and longetivity Saturn gives.
For one in all my long lasting relationships (any kind of relationship) there are not any Saturn aspects like at all! Which is shocking especially considering that I have many Uranus aspects in those synastries I am talking about!
I've seen that if I like or I've fallen for someone with whom we have Saturn aspects in our synastry, there will always be a reason no- I mean many problems that will keep us apart. By the time those problems have been sold it is already too late.. I will have lost contact with those people because it would take a huge amount of time until we would be able to have a normal relationship.
Saturn in my case operates like Uranus in a sense. I just thought of it! Maybe this happens because I have Saturn in Aqua?!?!?!! (I am shocked right now because it's the first time I've thought about it because while I am writing I felt like Saturn is more of a Uranus to me)
Anyway.. It doesn't give longetivity, it blocks everything, and puts obstacles.
You could say that it is my fault but considering that the ones whom I've had Saturn aspects with have a stong Saturn/Capricorn in their chart it means that they are patient people who try hard etc.. but even that is not enough at all.
It really makes me wonder why Saturn has such a reputation about giving long lasting and stable results.
I don't even know what you wanted to learn about because the question is general. If you want to know something else let me know!

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posted December 13, 2017 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I was off topic.
I just realised it.
To me it feels pure joy if someone's Saturn doesn't aspect my planets.
I've had both Moon opposition Saturn.
Me being the Saturn. The other person felt blocked after a while.. like I was cold and I didn't give a **** about him. He was more expressive but in a childish way. I felt he was being immature and I came to the point that I felt he was childish to the point of being stupid. I started losing interest and I also was trying to avoid him. It was an on-off thing for a couple of years which is quite common with Moon-Saturn hard synastry aspects.
He also had a Moon-Mars square so this maybe why he was being childish.
In the meantime I had multiple times my Sun opposed by others' Saturn in synastries.
They liked my personality but instead of feeling like I was not mature enough like it is supposed to be with Saturn, they felt afraid of losing me. This is a problem I generally encounter in my relationships and I am talking about even the long lasting ones but it is more intense with the ones that we had a Sun-Saturn opposition.
Maybe because I have Sun-Uranus opposition and Uranus in my 6th H is in a tight conjunction with my DSC meaning opposite my ASC.
It's understandable in the beginning or with people that do not know me but I feel like people who know me for many years and I am always there for them are still "afraid" that I will not be there and they may lose contact with me somehow out of the blue. It kind of pains me that they feel insecure when in reality I have proved that I am there for them everytime and I appreciate their company/friendship/etc.
I forgot to mention that people whose Saturn opposes my Sun admire how comfortable I am expressing myself and just being myself.
Maybe I would have liked a lot that person with whom I had my Saturn opposite his Moon if it wasn't for that silly Moon-Mars square he had.

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posted December 16, 2017 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by arcturus90:
Maybe there is a lack of interest or trust from the partner for whom Saturn is unaspected by any planet of the other person (and not only inner planets and luminaries)...
I think my natal Saturn is unaspected by any planet of a man I know, plus is inconjunct his Saturn, which means a huge lack of trust from me, and his Saturn is aspects to my Mars and maybe other planets of mine so that may be why he trusts me more than I trust him. And I find him uninteresting, boring... Saturn is being interested, trusting, fidelity.

Interesting! I never thought about this—not trusting someone as much when one doesn’t make an aspect to your own Saturn. And you said, aspect will create trust by the Saturn person to another person if it involves at least one to any of the planets (Sun to Pluto), didn’t you? Just to clarify...

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posted December 16, 2017 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a good one to know for comparison purposes. The chart I am studying has a natal chart of Saturn in the 5th house with aspects to Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, AC/MC including moon sign ruled by Saturn.

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
I consider my Saturn unspected because it doesn't make any major aspects with anything else in my chart tighter than 10 orbs. The only exception is the quincunx it makes with Moon, I don't know if it counts.
I am considered quite pantient except of a huge part that has to do with 6th H which is a very important part of our chart when it comes to routine and work. I have Uranus in there which is one of the worst placement for Uranus, so the impatience I have in the matters of the 6th and 7th H I believe are due to Uranus in there and not due to the lack of Saturn aspects.
People tend to say that the harder you try for something the more you appreciate it.. I could never understand it because I am the exact opposite.. The easier something comes to me the more I love it. If I have to try hard for something I stop wanting it before I even get/achieve it.
Mind you I have 7th H Capricorn ruled by Saturn which is in my 8th H.
I am shocked by how responsible, careful, serious, suspicious, late/slow, blocked and unlucky I am in the matters of the 8th H.. Saturn has a really bad effect on me no matter in what way it touches my chart (be it transits, synastry etc). It is also the only planet that even when it is transiting an empty house and doesn't make any aspect to my natal planets I still feel its presence. I can not get rid of it even when there are positive aspects like trine and sextile! And honestly I never get the supposed rewards. NEVER. No matter how hard I am trying.. in fact it is like the more I try the worse it gets.
In a synastry it feels like a heavy weight that I feel in the air but it is not there since the beginning. It"s unraveled after some time like maybe a year or so. I find that something is wrong with the supposed stability and longetivity Saturn gives.
For one in all my long lasting relationships (any kind of relationship) there are not any Saturn aspects like at all! Which is shocking especially considering that I have many Uranus aspects in those synastries I am talking about!
I've seen that if I like or I've fallen for someone with whom we have Saturn aspects in our synastry, there will always be a reason no- I mean many problems that will keep us apart. By the time those problems have been sold it is already too late.. I will have lost contact with those people because it would take a huge amount of time until we would be able to have a normal relationship.
Saturn in my case operates like Uranus in a sense. I just thought of it! Maybe this happens because I have Saturn in Aqua?!?!?!! (I am shocked right now because it's the first time I've thought about it because while I am writing I felt like Saturn is more of a Uranus to me)
Anyway.. It doesn't give longetivity, it blocks everything, and puts obstacles.
You could say that it is my fault but considering that the ones whom I've had Saturn aspects with have a stong Saturn/Capricorn in their chart it means that they are patient people who try hard etc.. but even that is not enough at all.
It really makes me wonder why Saturn has such a reputation about giving long lasting and stable results.
I don't even know what you wanted to learn about because the question is general. If you want to know something else let me know!

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posted December 21, 2017 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have had them and while there is interest, it just dissipates at some point.

I have one deep friendship that has very little saturn in synastry but my pluto opposes her sun. I have read that is binding and she is one of my closest and dearest friends. In composite we have Saturn, so maybe that compensates?

Also, how strong are minor aspects here? I have a potential relationship happening where my Saturn opposes his Sun and Mercury, but his Saturn is only semi-sextile my Venus. I assume my commitment in the relationship would be greater.

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posted January 01, 2018 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquaLeo29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
...Also, how strong are minor aspects here?...

They are all under 8 degrees

Partner A to B
Sun opposite Saturn (7’)
Moon sextile Saturn (2’)
Jupiter square Saturn (0’) —not personal planets though
Saturn conjunct Descendant (6’) —angles
Saturn sextile Jupiter/Uranus (1’) —again outer planets

So, you see that only Partner B’s Saturn aspect Partner A’s luminaries (and not a single personal planets); while Partner A Saturn aspects the other’s outerplanets and angle.

How will Partner A be towards B? Any experience please share.

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