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CopiousConflict
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posted January 06, 2018 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CopiousConflict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone. Thanks for checking out my post. I used to frequent this forum a decade ago, though in recent years I've not paid astrology as much mind.

I've returned in search of insight on something I've noticed about my synastry with the girl who I've begun seeing. In spite of our attraction for one another, our Venuses are unaspected by eachother. (Well, mine squares her Neptune and Chiron, the former of which I would hardly consider significant, given that it hardly moved a handful of degrees in the two years between our births)

I'm hoping someone may be able to posit an alternative explanation for the connection we feel by looking at our chart. I'm curious how sustainable you might deem a relationship between a couple with unaspected Venuses.

To provide some background information, we met online and emailed eachother back and forth several times before meeting. There was immediately a connection of like minds, and appreciation for eachother's depths. In person, she's always charming and accommodating. I may elaborate further at a later date, but I must conclude this post for time reasons.

Please, if you've any similar experiences or astrological knowledge that could shed insight, I'd appreciate it greatly if you'd consult the chart below and share your thoughts.

Many thanks.

Hawk

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Beautiful_Light
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posted January 06, 2018 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hawk, welcome back . Maybe try capitalizing the "IMG"s and see if that works?

Although not conjunct by degree, you both have Aries Venuses which would be considered conjunct using the Whole Signs system. The same goes for your Sun conjunct Mercuries in Pisces. Having these 3 in the same signs would create a lot of similarity between you two. Also you have Jupiter/Moon sextile Moon/Chiron. That's an excellent connection between your Moons, especially when you have Jupiter and Chiron there. Hope this helps!

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Randall
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posted January 11, 2018 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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mereiposa
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posted January 12, 2018 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well and another point is that she is bringing her venus to your 5th house and you are bringing yours to your 8th house. So this is important.

You do have other nice connections for sure. I have had venus conjunct venus before and not had it amount to much. I like moon and mercury connections a lot too. Look at your houses and rulers and that will tell you what planets you need to watch for activation of.

The Virgo rising would have mercury or chiron important in synastry and the Scorpio rising would need mars or pluto activation. You have all of that, so that is significant.

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Randall
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posted January 17, 2018 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Iridia
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posted January 21, 2018 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Venus-Neptune square isn't that insignificant, both planets are Descendants rulers. The house overlays and shared sign look very good to me.

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posted January 27, 2018 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or rather, welcome back, I should say.

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posted February 01, 2018 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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SunAscendant
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posted February 01, 2018 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunAscendant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Eros conjunct her 5th house cusp shows your attraction towards her.

- Moon sextile Moon shows that you guys are emotionally compatible .

- Yours Mars square her Ascendant can show initial sexual attraction but can cause fighting between you

-Mars semisextile Mars adds some harmony but not much since it's a minor aspect.

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CopiousConflict
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posted February 02, 2018 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CopiousConflict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everyone! Thanks for all your responses. I apologize for not getting back to this earlier; I've had a compromised internet situation until recently and haven't had this issue on my mind nearly as much as late.

Thanks, Beautiful_Light, for the welcome. I do feel very much emotionally on the same wavelength as this woman, which could perhaps be attributed to our moony connection. It turns out displaying an image through ubb code requires that the url begins with http only, even if the actual url begins with https.

Thanks, Randall, for the welcome, and for approving my registration. It's really cool to see this forum still running with it's dedicated community.

I appreciate your insight, mereiposa. I never really got into understanding houses very well in astrology, probably particularly in synastry since I was often using it to speculate on my romantic potential with acquaintances who's birthtimes I never asked... hahaha And this whole... pattern following thing with rulers I find really fascinating, but it remains yet unlearned by me. I also don't know what kind of orb to necessarily take seriously when regarding Chiron. I guess the trine between her Chiron and my Pluto can't be too bad, but I tend to have difficulty putting too much stock in outer planet placements, particularly when their placement mirrors my own since we're close enough in age.

Thanks for the input, Iridia. That's an interesting point, and again, something I wouldn't consider since following these house leader patterns is something very much beyond the scope of my understanding. I wonder what exactly the connotation of that influence would be, in your interpretation. (Sorry for my ignorance.)

Thanks for joining the discussion, SunAscendant. It's actually her own Mars that is square her own Ascendant. I guess my Mars could be considered sextile her Ascendant, though, if that bears any significance. I appreciate you mentioning the semisextile, since this is something that I hadn't really covered when I was into astrology. I wouldn't have been able to say whether it was good or bad on my own.

By the way, I've done a synastry with the asteroids that I did, only because I guess they were kind of hotness back when I used to use this site. It seems like people are including a lot of other asteroids that weren't often commonly considered by the community that I engaged with back then, so I'd be interested in hearing any feedback about what you kind souls would consider relevant for a question like this, and I'd be happy to post another chart.

Composite charts in particular seem to be really popular on these forums it seems. It's not something that I never really covered back when I was nose deep in astrology, but giving ours a cursory glance, Venus conjunct Dsc. sextile Saturn pops out as something that's probably a good sign, right? Again, let me know what asteroids I should or shouldn't include in a composite chart, and I'll happily post one. (I'd really love, by the way, if there was a was to have like... spoiler buttons, that you could click and then have content drop down. I could see that making some very clean but comprehensive chart collections in forum posts.)

On the original impetus of posting this thread, I'm interested to hear what anyone has to say specifically about the ramifications of having an unaspected Venus in synastry, or any planet for that matter. (The object of my affection is quite an idealist, something on which we positively relate, but again glancing at her lone Jupiter instils some worry) My rudimentary, probably not at all representative of what's actually commonly accepted - understanding, is that an unaspected placement would drive the native to seek resonance with another synastry partner, and depending on the placement that may be totally fine or welcomed for the kind of relationship sought.

This girl has recently come out of a long term relationship, (nearly 5 years) and is as such determined to act cautiously in these territories, but has nonetheless found some really compelling romantic (or what is mutually interpreted as romantic) resonance with me. At the outset of this thread, I was somewhat concerned that there may be some... rebound energy partially responsible for bringing us together, and was seeking counsel on whether our stars favour something long term between us. I'm less concerned about that now, but I'm still perfectly capable of being my own fool, so I'm totally open to any insights you can share.

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CopiousConflict
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posted February 06, 2018 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CopiousConflict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hopefully this will suffice as a placeholder. Please let me know if there's any asteroids I should be including or whether or not to draw aspects to all etc., and I'll happily update it.

I greatly appreciate any reading you may be so kind as to provide whether it directly correlates to my question or not.

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Kannon McAfee
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posted February 07, 2018 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hawk / CopiousConflict ...

Your Venus just at 20° Aries is still very much square her Neptune in spite of the fact its square to your Neptune position is tighter. Think of her as being a gentle agent that brings to light in human form what the Venus square Neptune aspect really means for you. That is an especially important natal aspect for you which can only be understood in the living (and relating).

Looking in declination, your Venus [14N13] is parallel her Moon [15N03].

Your Venus is also trine her Moon at 14.5° Leo (orb of 5.5° acceptable for the Moon in synastry). Your Venus is also quincunx (150°) her Pluto.

So there is nothing close to an unaspected condition of Venus between your charts. So no need or concern there relating to whether there is enough love and affection to serve as a basis for a long-term relationship.

There are some other interesting and supportive aspects in the declinations in case you are unfamiliar with them. Your Moon [9S45] is parallel her Sun [8S37], orb only 1°08'. The parallel aspect is a conjunction of declination.

Your Mercury [1S39] is contra-parallel her Venus [2N26]. The contra-parallel is an opposition of declination, but this should not be seen as a bad aspect. It can easily be transmuted into an appreciation of each other through good active listening.

Your Jupiter [3S25] is parallel her Pluto [3S01], a very beneficial aspect that can create deep running optimism and determination to succeed no matter the cost. This can be helpful in any kind of partnership once it is activated by your intent.

Back to the circle wheels showing the zodiac positions ...

Your N.Node is trine her Moon. Yes, your N.Node is opposite Mars, but the Moon aspect is a bit more personal.

Your Pluto is sextile her N.Node.

Now looking at the declinations of the Nodes ...

Your N.Node [22S45] is parallel her Uranus [23S10], and more closely than that aspect sits in your own chart. Her N.Node [20S40] is parallel your Neptune [21S12]. So these are clues that these transcendent elements of Uranus and Neptune, reaching into the mind and intuition, are important for seeing how to proceed. Worth some further study, isn't it?

Trust how your connection began and how it feels. That is a good starting place for moving forward.

PS: I checked the declinations quickly using the freeware ASTROLOG: http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog.htm . Just go up to the edit menu after you've entered all the chart data and select 'Enter command line' and in the box that pops up enter: /sr

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Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guy
Declinations: because the planets move north and south of the celestial equator

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