posted January 10, 2018 04:51 PM            

number one:

number two:

number one with me:

number two with me:

posted January 10, 2018 06:46 PM            

you might consider a quad composite with he and you and the other two people.you might try to find named asteroids to include in this composite.that might get you to the point of awareness you looking for.

I'd rather look at the 4 person composite first.

todd

posted January 10, 2018 07:23 PM            

Quad composite

posted January 13, 2018 11:24 AM            

thr first aspect that stands out is that you are conjunct the node. this implies that everything you think about what is going on between he and they, is correct.

but you say their composites are not romantic which may be technically true but with dulci square to pluto and deli conjuct to pluto, there is obviously strong sexual dynamics. it is possible thr impulses are repressed but I don't think so.
one reason is that Saturn is opposed to Neptune which implies robbe is lying to these women. also with a strong pluto and a strong Neptune, alcohol and drugs maybe part of these liaison's .
and with nessus square to Saturn and Neptune there are clearly abusive dynamics, I would suspect sexual abuse .in addition dejaniera is opposed to venus, which also indicates sexually exploitive interactions.
in addition the nessus/dejaniera midpoint is conjunct to chiron, another deviant sexually configuration.
with Jupiter opposed to chiron, he is clearly controlling these women . most likely through sex and drugs/alcohol.

robbe is square to the moon/Uranus squares midpoint, which implies these women are not of stable minds which may be how is manipulating them.

Jupiter is square to the Uranus/pluto midpoint which really darkens this situation.
these aspects could bring some sort of corporate structure, but it feels more underworld to me. it is possible that he is pimping these women sexually.

with the midpoint to deli and dulci square to the Uranus, it is very possible that they have a lesbian connection which could be part of this psychological sexual control.

with mera conjunct the node and square to karma, it seems you have been drawn into this scenario for some specific spiritual reason.

it is possible with pluto trine to Saturn and sextile to Neptune, that there is a sensitive side to these relationships.
but the overall picture is very sexually and mentally exploitive.

mera/robbe midpoint is conjunct to the Saturn/Neptune oppositions which seems to imply that you see through his actions. it may be you are to "educate" these women to his real nature.

it maybe that robbe has dulci under his thumb and is trying to use dulci's relationship with delil to gain control over her also. with robbe/delil midpoint square to Uranus, she may be antagonistic to robbe.

posted January 13, 2018 02:37 PM            

It's not sexual at all. This is a father and two daughters. So they are not lesbians, they are sisters. I don't know what is going on, but I know its dark and have felt that for some time.

He is definitely lying. To them, to me. I believe it relates mostly to who he is in character. I suspect the drugs, sex and alcohol you are referring to are actually him, his hidden side. Them not being of stable mind is their youth. I agree with the mentally exploitative nature of the relationship. He is deceptive and wants them to believe what he wants them to see. And yes, the dulci person is definitely more susceptible to his lies. Deli is wise and is not telling me anything but I sense her hesitation and complete change in her relationship with him. She sees through him I believe, but is not ready to acknowledge it.

Knowing more of the background, does it give you a different impression?

When I saw the love stellium I was not expecting this reading, though I know he is not a good person. And though I have known for a while his issues were dark, I also didn't want to believe I was correct. He was always a father before he was anything else.

posted January 13, 2018 03:16 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
wow.

It's not sexual at all. This is a father and two daughters. So they are not lesbians, they are sisters. I don't know what is going on, but I know its dark and have felt that for some time.

He is definitely lying. To them, to me. I believe it relates mostly to who he is in character. I suspect the drugs, sex and alcohol you are referring to are actually him, his hidden side. Them not being of stable mind is their youth. I agree with the mentally exploitative nature of the relationship. He is deceptive and wants them to believe what he wants them to see. And yes, the dulci person is definitely more susceptible to his lies. Deli is wise and is not telling me anything but I sense her hesitation and complete change in her relationship with him. She sees through him I believe, but is not ready to acknowledge it.

Knowing more of the background, does it give you a different impression?

When I saw the love stellium I was not expecting this reading, though I know he is not a good person. And though I have known for a while his issues were dark, I also didn't want to believe I was correct. He was always a father before he was anything else.

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what you have added changes things a bit but not much.
from what you have said , I still believe there is a sexual /incestual dynamic taking place. the symbols for sexual abuse are overwhelming. everything you have added about the girls can apply to incestual abuse.
incest is such a taboo subject that this may be why you can sense the lies etc.

I"ll look at the composites to see if the same symbols appear.

todd

posted January 13, 2018 03:37 PM            

I need you to add nessus dejanira,orcus and Philomela(196)to their composites of the daughters before I analyze any deeper
you might delete karma,destiny,valen,union as they don't apply directly

posted January 13, 2018 06:19 PM            

Philomela is conjunct north node in the composite of girl one with him. He doesn't want her to speak. She saw something and doesn't know what to make of it. And he doesn't want her to say anything, does he?

posted January 13, 2018 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I really struggle with composites, but...

Philomela is conjunct north node in the composite of girl one with him. He doesn't want her to speak. She saw something and doesn't know what to make of it. And he doesn't want her to say anything, does he?

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philomeda is a specific for sexual abuse. with the node conjunct philomeda in one and philomeda square to the node in the other, I am afraid the only conclusion is sexual abuse by the father.

you might look at a tricomposite with daughters and father using the previous asteroids and named steriods but add in eros and psyche. from the looks of it both daughters are involved and both know the truth about each other.

posted January 13, 2018 06:52 PM            

what does this mean?

in the composite of girl one with him the DSC is on the nessus deja midpoint. Orcus trines nessus.

posted January 14, 2018 11:29 AM            

the tri composite reinforces the previous readings.

delil is conjunct pluto, a primary sexual abuse aspect,and square to mars/psyche conjunction. this adds to the sexual nature and psyche is often associated with abusing young girls if there are other aspects such as this chart has.
delil/father had philomeda conjunct the node.a positivr rape indication.

dulci is conjunct he sun and father/dulci midpoint is opposed to mars/psyche and suare to pluto/delil.

so it is clear that both girls are bing sexually abused. with psyche involved ,the abuse began likely in infantancy ,so both girls have no moral restrictions or rather have never been instilled with moral restrictions.

as the moon is conjunct to dulci.robbe and opposed to mars/psyche and square pluto and delil,so clearly the mother is aware of this sexual abuse and likely facillates robes incest to keep the "marriage" together.robbe likely threatens to leave if he is not allowed to abuse the girls. this is a extremely sick and dysfunctional family

posted January 14, 2018 01:59 PM            

There's something else happening here. I cannot guarantee there is not sexual abuse happening, but I can guarantee it is not as you are saying.

posted January 14, 2018 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:
no that's off-

There's something else happening here. I cannot guarantee there is not sexual abuse happening, but I can guarantee it is not as you are saying.

the mother has absolutely no awareness of anything happening or she would have done something immediately. she divorced him four years ago and has the girls almost exclusively. There is no indication that anything ever happened to the girls and the mother has been a stay at home mother for years. Only post separation did she leave home to work.

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as mentioned you are conjunct the node in the quad composite so your insights are very clear.
knowing the mother is separated does change my perspective and absolves her, but the sexual dynamics are still very clear between him and the daughters.
todd

posted January 14, 2018 03:15 PM            

but the emotional love between you is amazing.

but for all these amazing energies between you, pluto is conjunct the ascendant and square to the sun and Saturn.this shows that there are deep divisions between you. at times you seem to be isolated and cold ,almost as if on different planets.
so this relationship has drastic ups and downs. sometimes you feel like destiny has brought you together but then at other times you are just so cold.this could be because to the sexual abuse as pluto/sun/Saturn is a strong indication od this behavior . I would think that dulci is more affected by the relationship with her robbe than delil is.

posted January 14, 2018 03:23 PM            

Thank you so much. Yes, these girls are so much to me. I felt it from the day they were born. How you described girl 2 and I is eerily accurate.