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Topic: This couple is getting married...but should they?
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margym0o Knowflake Posts: 990 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 17, 2018 03:41 PM
Two close friends of mine getting married in May. I'll explain the back story after... IP: Logged |
snow angel Knowflake Posts: 42 From: Registered: Oct 2017
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posted January 17, 2018 07:32 PM
Mars conjunct Juno in the first house trine Pluto is very positive. They really want to be with each other and look good together. Sun conjunct Venus is also very positive. Its conjunct the South Node so they knew each other before in a past life and were lovers. this life their relationship will most likely result in children since its in Aquarius/Leo. The only drawback I see is Mars conjunct Juno square Uranus in Scorpio. There may be moments where one of them wants to leave the relationship but It can also manifest as sexual attraction. Moon square Saturn/Jupiter in Libra/Cancer shows a committed relationship. IP: Logged |
MahaKali Knowflake Posts: 404 From: Anywhere out of this world Registered: Dec 2015
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posted January 18, 2018 01:47 AM
7th house ruler Sun is in 1st in conjunction to Venus, both conjunct ASC, and trine Jupiter and Saturn, a lot of happiness, they enjoy in each other and admire each other. Mars is also in 1st and has more harmonious aspects, brings passion, but not raw one. All these is in Aquarius and in 1st, they are probably partners and friends at the same time and give each other enough space, there is understanding between them. Jupiter is in very close conjunction to Saturn in 8th house, very nice. North Node conjunct DC. And also very good communication with that Mercury and very nice aspects.Definitely yes. IP: Logged |
waxlobster Knowflake Posts: 542 From: Birmingham Registered: Mar 2011
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posted January 18, 2018 05:32 AM
That composite looks great to me, although maybe there are far more complex set ups in their synastry?I am awaiting a complicated and convoluted back story ;-) (implied and promised!) ------------------ blog: http://waxlobster.blogspot.co.uk/ New horoscopes just posted for January to March 2018!!! IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 19, 2018 12:51 AM
@margym0o Could you please post their synastry and natals? I like looking at synastries of people who get/got married. IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 19, 2018 01:05 AM
I could imagine them having had an affair and deceiving mutual close friends before going public or the two of them hating each other at first before becoming a couple. I could also imagine them being very loud about their relationship. And I think that both are workaholics.IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 990 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 19, 2018 09:54 AM
Thanks for the replies so far everyone Here's their synastry (male is outside, birth times are 99% accurate): His natal: Her natal: Ok so for the back story...they met on a dating website and started dating pretty much right away in June 2015. Neither of them had much luck with relationships prior to meeting. She was in a long-term on/off relationship with a much older man that was basically a waste of time. He had more shorter term relationships with women that were all wrong for him. She is 5 years older than him, and their tastes couldn't be any more different. She is more the quieter bookworm, and he is all tattooed with an edgier past. She moved in within 6 months of dating I think. He does work A LOT. His family owns/operates a business and he travels a lot. She mainly works from and stays home. From the beginning we just thought she was an interesting choice for him because their lifestyles prior to meeting were just so DIFFERENT. The one "flag" if you will from the very beginning was her desperation to have a child. It's almost as if as soon as they met it was full steam ahead - moving in quickly, trying for a child right away, it all seemed so fast. Again she is 5 years older than him, and turning 40 this year, so our fear is that she saw him as her "last chance" to have that stability and a child. They have unfortunately been struggling with fertility issues and so their life has been a roller coaster of emotion, including her falling into a bit of a depression because of it. Their entire lives surround this issue almost like they are drowning in it. He did end up proposing to her in the midst of all of it last April, but because of the ups and downs they never set a wedding date...until December and now they are getting married in May! Our fear, as his friend first, is that she put so much pressure on him from the beginning, and he was thrust into all of this before he was ready. We did sense a bit of hesitation from him in December when discussing their future together, but then a few short weeks later we get a surprise message that the wedding was booked and they're barreling ahead! We think it makes HER feel better because she was probably worried that without that commitment, he would leave her for a younger woman and not have to go through these issues. I should end all of this by saying of course we DO NOT know what goes on behind closed doors and we obviously can't speculate on the depths of love they have for each other, but we just don't want him to be taken advantage of. He is a very selfless person at the end of the day and we are worried he is going through all of this just to make her happy. But...who really knows, right?
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2351 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 20, 2018 10:46 AM
OMG @ margym0o!!! My cousin who is the same age as me - has gone through a similar experience where he started dating a women 9 years his senior and she was desperate to have a baby and they had one within ~ 1 year of dating. This theme seems like a total red flag to me and I totally can relate to the uneasiness of seeing your male friend getting rushed into a long term relationship without even taking into consideration the outlook of the relationship because it is so overwhelming.I can see this in the composite chart that Moon in the 5th house square Jupiter/Saturn - that screams lets rush having a baby. Sure their Moon - Moon synastry conjunction probably lead to immediate closeness but I don't think its going to last. Especially with no real DESC synastry connections. Plus that Sun conjunction Neptune is another red flag in their synastry. Goes to show how important inter aspects are compared to just evaluating a composite chart. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 990 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 22, 2018 09:52 AM
I figured Moon sq. Saturn/Jupiter had something to do with it!Bump IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 2636 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 22, 2018 07:05 PM
Composite Sun conjunct Venus is always a wonderful aspect to have. Day to day living together is nice. They have composite moon in the 5th house, so I think they should be able to have children, but the square by Saturn and Jupiter might make this very difficult. His Venus falls in her 5th house and her Jupiter falls in his 5th, so my bet is on them being to have at least 1 child. IP: Logged |
HelixID Knowflake Posts: 233 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted January 23, 2018 12:59 AM
@margym0o thanks for posting the natals and synastry! I'll start with her: She has Dsc in Gemini. Her Dsc ruler Mercury is in Sag. His Asc ruler Neptune is in Sag and conjunct her Sun. She definitely is attracted to him and sees him as marriage material, I don't think she just settles to have a baby. Having her Dsc in Gemini also implies that she likes younger men as well as someone prefers older partners when their Dsc is in Capricorn, for example. She has a first house Sun, his Aries Sun is mirroring that. She has her Moon in H7, meaning she needs Cancer energy in her partner, he mirrors that with his Sun-Moon square. His Asc ruler Neptune is square his Mercury, so he definitely brings the Gemini energy she needs.Now to him: His Dsc is in Virgo and his Dsc ruler Mercury is in Pisces plus square Neptune, so he definitely needs Pisces energy from his partner. She mirrors that by having Neptune conjunct her Asc and her Sun. Her Sun is conjunct his Asc ruler and square his Dsc ruler, these are strong contacts. Their Moons are conjunct in Cancer and this is really beautiful. He has Saturn and Pluto in H7. Well, she does have Sun square Saturn and she is older than him, so the Cap requirement is met. Her Venus is in Scorpio so the Pluto/Scorpio part is also covered. The problem I see here are their Venuses. He has a Taurus Venus opposite Saturn and she has Scorpio Venus conjunct Uranus. Both are detached but not for the same reasons. His Cap colored Venus doesn't like grandiose displays of affection, likes emotional stability and reservedness in a woman. I don't think she can give him that with her Scorpio Venus. She needs depth and bonding but will detach abruptly when she actually reaches that. Because that's what Uranus does to her Venus. She likes something only when it escapes her but feels overwhelmed when she actually has it. They could probably have a problem with giving affection to each other down the road. Overall it's not a bad synastry although it's a little bit more in his favor. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 4933 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 23, 2018 03:01 PM
I like the Moon-Moon contact.The fact that hers is in the 7th and his is in the 4th suggests that both are looking for that special someone. Interestingly Chiron is in her 4th house: Some painful issues there related to upbringing or wanting a sense of stability. The square of Chiron to Jupiter in Leo could be money issues when growing up? His Moon in 4th sextile her Chiron soothes that. As he is also longing to feel a sense of belonging. His emphasis on emotional security is quite strong. Her 5th house ruler (Venus) is conjunct Uranus in Scorpio and square Juno in Aquarius. I don't think she minds the age gap and maybe even was drawn to him because of it. She is used to having relationships that are "out of the ordinary". And I also suspect that adoption or some unusual child -bearing/child rearing situation will occur i.e surrogacy, adoption, manual fertilization etc. Moon in 7th wants companionship.And when in Cancer,it can border on an overly dependent nature that doesn't know where their feelings start and those of the partner end. Pluto in Libra in 10th suggests that she measures herself and reputation according to the kind of relationships she has with other people. So companionship/ marriage may be of extreme importance to her. I think this once again highlights the Chiron in her 4th house in Taurus. Wanting some sort of stability and security emotionally.Wanting to belong. And the fact that Moon in Cancer opposes Mars in Capricorn, Uranus-Venus is in smoldering Scorpio squaring Juno in Aquarius, blowing hot/cold is her love nature stamp. So she may expect him to be the calm in her ever changing storms. In his chart, he has the opposition of Venus in Taurus with Saturn in Scorpio which suggests that he chooses difficult partners with emotional issues(Saturn in Scorpio). This is the challenge that he sees as worthwhile towards love(Venus in Taurus). Further emphasis to this is Pluto in Libra in 7th (serious about relationships) and Saturn in Scorpio in 7th(partners with issues relating to intimacy). This would explain the connection between his Venus-Saturn opposition(afraid to get close) and her Venus-Uranus conjunction in Scorpio(afraid to commit) Ironically when these two find each other, they are quick to do the very thing that was being hard to do when with other people who didn't share the positions i.e COMMIT. His Juno in Pisces trines his Moon in Cancer. The marriage is likely to be quite emotional and full of empathy. His Juno in Pisces squares Uranus/Jupiter in Sagittarius. In many ways,the partnership will get in the way of his freedom. The natal Moon-Neptune opposite suggests a person who is very compassionate(Moon-Neptune opposite) but also very idealistic. Not knowing when to stop. The added square with the Sun suggests a struggle to integrate this feeling/ compassionate nature into the identity The feeling part of him knows of patience/ love and understanding. And he can do that . But there is another part of him that wants to solve things quickly and is frustrated by complexity(Aries Sun). That added Aries Mars can act to emphasize this impatience with wanting to just take action when problems arise. I will not say "yes" or "no" as no married couple is perfect in every aspect as it takes adjustment.
Numerologically speaking (which I think is the foundation of synastry analysis) if the life path number are compatible. Its a win. The rest is adjustment and lots of love and understanding. Many couples with "bad" synastry stay married. Whilst others with great synastry divorce. its all about the individuals involved and the intention of the respective souls that they have. IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2039 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted January 23, 2018 04:58 PM
Wow Aries, that was an amazing read! well done 👏🏽 IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 990 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted January 24, 2018 10:08 AM
Thank you for your replies everyone! The reads are all very thoughtfully done and they make a lot of sense. There is no doubt in my mind that there is SOMETHING there otherwise they wouldn't be getting married, but we are still a little weary...For instance, last night, we spoke to him about plans for his bachelor party and were pitching him ideas. He flat out said, "No, she doesn't want me to have a bachelor party. Probably because she doesn't trust me..." --_______-- IP: Logged |
ekf Knowflake Posts: 211 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 28, 2018 11:42 AM
Just one thing to keep an eye on is that the upcoming eclipse lands right on their Composite Sun and North Node. If something needs to be said, it'll likely come out soon. But yeah, the north node in the 7th house in Leo certainly suggest kids. As well as that conjunction of moons in Cancer in his 4th. He's not freaked out at all about the kids. I'm guessing he's as on board as she is. IP: Logged |