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AriesLilith
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posted January 23, 2018 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys, I wonder if you can take a look at this composite that is between me and my manager at work?
I’ve been finding a hard time to deal with him sometimes and it feels like I want to avoid him as possible as I can. Any tips would be appreciated. I need to survive for some time at least.

The birth time from is side is unknown and set to noon when configuring this chart.

Thank you!

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posted January 24, 2018 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 25, 2018 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah, that's hardly a match made in heaven... It just goes to show the difference between a manager and a partner.

Still, does a composite count with somebody you only see at work? Wouldn't the synastry be more indicative?

A question for Todd really, but I'd not really consider a composite unless I was planning to, or already sharing my life with somebody in a significant way...

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posted January 26, 2018 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder though if the composite doesn't become active. You work with this person and interact regularly. I feel like any time you interact, there is shared energy between the two of you. Especially as she is "feeling" it, needing to avoid him.

I tend to think the energy of two people combines even in minute encounters.

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posted January 26, 2018 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies. I agree with @mereiposa, when two people interact our energies interact. Even if it’s not a romantic relationship it’s still a relationship where two energies come together.

In this case I’m wondering what is the better way to interact with this manager, zi feel that he might be too controlling and even mean. The tsquare seems to point out this.
When we first met he was worse soon after, but I became assertive and he calmed down for a while. Now he has been controlling again, and I wonder what’s the best approach or should I simply keep super low profile and not bump heads.

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posted January 26, 2018 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars has just entered Sagittarius today.
Will be coming up on your co-Uranus quincunx co-Mercury-MC.

tUranus has been on your co-Sun trine co-Jupiter. ... By the time (a few years from now) when tUranus reaches MC, you'll know if this is go or no-go?

You have a LEO rising, with SN-Jupiter IN Leo natural house 5thSag.

Your H9 SUN is trine Jupiter.
Jupiter rules the 9th. Trines Ascendant.

There COULD be a way to pull it off where you could win-win-- Energetically with this.

I'd say to Follow the Fire Trine messages, Aries Sun, Jupiter Sag, Leo Ascendant.

That this relationship needs more-objective and detached Creative relating?
(Aquarius 7th, Moon Cap, SN-Jupiter 5th)
The South Node is a very comfortable feeling, almost as though (with the trine) you have some ability for telepathy on some level?

Uranus rx H4 ... might feel that shaky quakey instability (internally)... If you (yourself) can find a way to adjust that? (feel more secure {for yourself} inside)? You might be able to ride this for some years longer?

Mercury-- The Mind. in Taurus..
Keep your Mind and the Talk on How to make more Money?

Appeal to the Higher Vibrational side (H9).

JUPITER will be entering Sagittarius in November 2018 .... But won't reach your H5 'Return' until Feb 2019. That's a few week and a year from now.

If your mental health (and physical) can stay strong through this, you might be able to make some gains in the future? You'd have to 'stick' with it.

Question... Is there an underlying romantic type spark between you two?

Be careful of your reputation regarding that, especially if either of you are in already 'committed' relationships?

Could wind up being very revengeful (maybe even legal repercussions) if that were the case?

Take GOOD Care of your self.
You Matter!

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Curious... What kind of Industry are you in with this person?

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posted January 26, 2018 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

hi AriesLilithI'm getting a big hhhmmmmm on this one.

what caught my eye is that the moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the Jupiter/Uranus midpoint which is conjunct the south node.

the hhmmm is because this couldbe read in to totally different manners.

first moon/Saturn can show the emotional connection between you and as it is conjunct to Jupiter/Uranus, this could portend a breakup or job loss.

the other opposite interpretation ,because of the south nodes presence ,is that this could show a devotion between you which could lead to a rapid advancement in your employment.

even with only one nknown time, the sun/moon midpoint square to Uranus, this pattern is extremely unstable and any connection would be brief. I don't know how long you have been working here, but the long term is very precarious.
it doesn't help that nessus and dejanira midpoint is square to pluto. this is extremely negative as he may have unconscious impulses to cause you problems.

the only option is to be so competent at you work that he will have no reason to discharge you. but you should continue to search for other employment, as this is a adversarial relationship at its core.

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posted January 26, 2018 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mereiposa:
I wonder though if the composite doesn't become active. You work with this person and interact regularly. I feel like any time you interact, there is shared energy between the two of you. Especially as she is "feeling" it, needing to avoid him.

I tend to think the energy of two people combines even in minute encounters.


Oh you're probably correct indeed! Perhaps out of my remit to comment at all, as I've studied synastry and am a novice in the composite chart world. I do have a feeling of them being about relationships (close ones) and synastry being about everything in life.

That's only my take though and fortunately our resident composite expert; Todd has given his insights.

I guess there's a reason (a bigger underlying question/concern here...?) to post the charts anyway and I'm always going to ask for that question and the synastry charts.. ;-)

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posted January 26, 2018 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@mirage, thank you for your interpretation. Unfortunately I don’t have his birth time so the houses might not apply here.
We both work at IT but he is just the project manager and not my manager in the company. Our interaction will only be limited to as long as I work on this project. Which I do hope that it won’t be long. There is definitely no spark, at least on my side lol. We are both in committed relationships.

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posted January 27, 2018 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@todd, thank you for your interpretation once again. Always a guiding light for me!
Your hmmm scared me at first lol but there is truth in that. But I guess that it’s more inclined on the “break up” side because I can’t feel devoted to him or the project in the overall. I don’t acknowledge him as a leader because of his management style, which I find negative. He did cause me problems but I’ve been able to deal with them luckily and then he backed off a bit.
I do feel that unless I give 200% it would barely be enough for him. I did wonder if this is an opportunity to learn how to deal with managers like him and what if I could make him happy with my work, but then I wonder if keeping low profile and off his radar is actually better as I might be perceived as adversarial if I try to do something. I did screw up a bit recently when I didn’t agree with him fully and he seemed to be onto me more by micromanaging more.
I am trusted to do something important so there is some confidence in my work, but he has been pressured by superiors and client and in return he pressures the team and me.
I have a good reptutation but I feel that he can screw it a bit with his feedbacks, which is another reason for me to not want to stay in this project and under his management for long. I’m under another management as he is only the project manager.
Hopefully I will only stay for a short time in this project and then go to the next.

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posted January 27, 2018 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AriesLilith:
@todd, thank you for your interpretation once again. Always a guiding light for me!
Your hmmm scared me at first lol but there is truth in that. But I guess that it’s more inclined on the “break up” side because I can’t feel devoted to him or the project in the overall. I don’t acknowledge him as a leader because of his management style, which I find negative. He did cause me problems but I’ve been able to deal with them luckily and then he backed off a bit.
I do feel that unless I give 200% it would barely be enough for him. I did wonder if this is an opportunity to learn how to deal with managers like him and what if I could make him happy with my work, but then I wonder if keeping low profile and off his radar is actually better as I might be perceived as adversarial if I try to do something. I did screw up a bit recently when I didn’t agree with him fully and he seemed to be onto me more by micromanaging more.
I am trusted to do something important so there is some confidence in my work, but he has been pressured by superiors and client and in return he pressures the team and me.
I have a good reptutation but I feel that he can screw it a bit with his feedbacks, which is another reason for me to not want to stay in this project and under his management for long. I’m under another management as he is only the project manager.
Hopefully I will only stay for a short time in this project and then go to the next.


there is another aspect I forgot to comment on and it is not good

the nessus /dejaniera midpoint is conjunct to pluto. this is extremely problematic because it implies he could take a conscious malicious attitude toward you. this could include actively trying to sabotage you .all i can say is double check everything and if applicable recheck anything that has to go through his hands before it is submitted

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posted January 28, 2018 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:

there is another aspect I forgot to comment on and it is not good

the nessus /dejaniera midpoint is conjunct to pluto. this is extremely problematic because it implies he could take a conscious malicious attitude toward you. this could include actively trying to sabotage you .all i can say is double check everything and if applicable recheck anything that has to go through his hands before it is submitted


This is also the main feeling I get from interacting with him. As if he tries to make me feel bad or in trouble on purpose. I hope that I can get away soon but probably will be going for a few more months.

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posted January 30, 2018 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi ya

just another brief flash . i really don't like the dejanira aspect and i suggest that if you have to be alone with him that you record the meeting so that you can not be misrepresented

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posted January 30, 2018 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hi ya

just another brief flash . i really don't like the dejanira aspect and i suggest that if you have to be alone with him that you record the meeting so that you can not be misrepresented

todd


Thank you for the advice, I will be careful about this. Probably best to avoid being alone with him, I feel that having other team members’ presence does protect me a bit. At least he can’t get too mean in front of others. Some team members also defended me in the past when he went a bit overboard.

It feels as if he is finding ways to get me into trouble, which stresses me out, as if he is looking for my failures so he can criticize or blame me. I try to defend myself assertively and diplomatically and also not fail in anything so that he can’t find anything to criticize.
He is critical to others too, his management style can be negative and demotivating.

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posted January 31, 2018 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@todd hi again, can you please take a look at the following composite? A possible opportunity came up from someone who have worked with me before. She liked my work and want me in her team so she will be my superior. I also liked working with her and the conditions she might offer are interesting.
Strangely a similar aspect with Nessus, Dejanira and Pluto came up and I’m a bit scared about it. What do you think?

Thank you!

Her birth time is unkown.

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posted January 31, 2018 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi AriesLilith

the positive aspects are the venus/mercury/jupiter conjunction. this shows you both enjoy each others company and are both very intelligent and have similar ideas and world views.this shows a lot of laughter in-between business matters.
the Saturn/pluto midpoint is opposed to the Jupiter/mercury/venus stellium which implies that this could be very important to your professional advancement, as this opposition shows you would be working on very important matters.

the uranus conjunct to juno and opposed to Uranus moon could also show a rapid advancement to a higher job category. this aspect cpould be interpreted as showing arguments but with mars trine/sextile to the opposition, it seems that the more favorable interpretation is correct.

nessus with the node and square to pluto is a bit troubling.it may be that she is a very demanding manager but that would allow you to display your abilities.

with the node close to the ascendant, you and she have a very strong psychic connection and probably find yourselves always on the exact same page. this shows I unity of thought and possibility reading each other thoughts etc.
couple with the Uranus/moon opposition, I would expect you to have common dreams and with pluto square, you both may have the same premonitions of ill fortune.

the nessus/pluto dejanira influence could be that you might share similar abusive family environments or have similar thoughts about these subjects.

the mars/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Chiron and square to pallas. this could imply that she will be a harsh task master and expect near perfect out of you. she might also not take criticism well, even though you have such a good rapport .

is she married?you might add saphho just to see if there are any emotional undercurrents

but this is a great improvement over your current manager no matter what.

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posted February 01, 2018 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi again @todd, thank you for the analysis. I feel more confident with this already.

She is also married and also has a child. I don't know her birth time so I guess that theascendant aspects wouldn't apply.
What you said is probably true as I feel that she will be a demanding superior in a good way, and that our views are probably compatible. She seems unconventional, honest and humane and I appreciate these qualities.

Here's the chart with other asteroids like Sappho and Psyche:

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posted February 01, 2018 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yea the node/ascendant is invalid

with orcus also conjunct the node,i am willing to bet she has a abusive background. maybe if this topic comes up casually, you might have another bonding moment.

well it looks good to me.
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posted February 01, 2018 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you @todd. I really hope that this will go well and I can work with her. We are just waiting for the recruitment process to be approved.

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posted February 07, 2018 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 12, 2018 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an update, my actual employer ended up raising my actual salary so I decided to stay with them. I’m also allowed to get out of the current project I’m in so I can stop working for my current project manager if I need to.

My actual employer treats me very well and I’ve told them the state of the project so they can know what’s going on.

I did intend to work for the other person as I liked her and felt that she can be a good superior. But given the conditions it’s better for me to stay where I am for now.

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posted February 12, 2018 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cool

you get a raise and get away from your current ......problem.

good luck
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posted February 12, 2018 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesLilith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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cool

you get a raise and get away from your current ......problem.

good luck
todd


Thank you @todd!

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posted February 20, 2018 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, todd!

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