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manderin
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posted January 25, 2018 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may have discovered something- But maybe not. I'm hoping you guys can help me figure out which.

We all know that when a person's planet conjuncts another's ascendant the energy of the planet is keenly felt. I think that if a person's south node is conjunct a planet in their natal chart and THAT CONJUNCTION conjuncts the ascendant of someone it may switch who feels the energy of the planet. For example:

If Bob's mars conjuncts Sally's ascendant it's generally the mars person (bob) that feels most attracted to the ascendant person (Sally). BUT what if bob also has his south node conjunct his mars. That means that his south Node AND his mars are conjunct Sally's ascendant. The energy of the South Node drain's bob's mars energy so it makes it so that it is Sally that is more attracted to Bob instead.

Same with any other planet. Jupiter conj asc = The Jupiter person wants to teach, support and make happy the ascendant person.... But if the Jupiter person has South Node next to their Jupiter, it will be the ascendant person that wants to provide most of the happiness and support.

This would make sense because the south node tends to drain the energy of whatever planet it's next to... So the native with a planet conjunct the SN may have trouble expressing the planet and would therefore project that energy onto a partner who would then be the one to show the energy instead.


If you've had synastry where someone's SN+planet was conjunct the other person's ascendant please share if what I wrote above was at all reflective of that relationship. I would like to know either way.

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posted January 26, 2018 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Orange
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posted January 26, 2018 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it in my synastry but I am the South Node person so I don't know how the ASC person feels deep inside. He won't tell me.
In my case - My natal Sun-South Node exact conjuction conjucts his ASC at 1 degree.

I think you might be right that the south node sucks the energy

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posted January 26, 2018 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, interesting theory but very specific. So let's broaden it, you're saying that if a person has a South Node conjunct a natal planet the nature of that planet changes from an extraverted energy to an intraverted energy?

So if we look at that in other places in the chart overlays we can apply it further?

In my chart the only planet conjunct my South Node is Saturn (fabulous haha!) and I've never dated anyone whose Ascendant is conjunct this point. Or mostly any planets, so no personal experience yet to report.

I love the ideas though. :-) Let's develop!!

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manderin
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posted January 27, 2018 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by waxlobster:
you're saying that if a person has a South Node conjunct a natal planet the nature of that planet changes from an extraverted energy to an intraverted energy?



Yes that's it. I already knew that the south node has a imploding affect on a planet whereas the North Node has an EXploding affect. Someone with natal Mars conjunct NN will tend towards being aggressive. They get angry easily and it SHOWS right away. But Someone with natal Mars conjunct SN tends more towards Passive-aggressiveness. Where they get angry easily, but it doesn't show at all at first. They let it smolder inside them for a lot longer.

So now I"m adding that to synastry with someone's ascendant. (I'm using mars as an example because it's such a loud planet that it's easier to see it's affects sooner). It's often agreed that when someone's mars is conjunct someone else's ascendant, the Mars person is mostly the one that is sexually attracted to the ascendant. But if the mars person has their SN conj their mars, this sexual energy is imploded rather than exploded... and therefore projects instead onto the ascendant person! Meaning the ascendant person is the one that ends up more aggressively pursuing the Mars person because the mars person can't expel the energy as well due to the SN.

I"m just going to add a little something stated in Vedic here: "The native with SN conj mars in their natal chart has trouble expressing their sexuality and their anger. When they DO express their sexuality, they become unsatisfied with it- They get bored easily and go for other conquests. They tend to be passive aggressive and when they do express their anger they often let go of their anger right away as if nothing happened. This is because the SN is warping Mars's energy so that it cannot express itself efficiently."

So while a synastry mars conj asc would normally be straight forward, the SN makes the mars person not so straight forward. ANd therefore that tension in the relationship has nowhere to go except to the ascendant person, who then takes on that energy and expresses it instead. My theory seems to work with two charts I've seen- but two charts isn't enough to know if it's really the truth.

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waxlobster
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posted January 27, 2018 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, interesting. I don't think I actually know anyone with Mars conjunct their nodes...although I do tend to steer clear of aggression in general, so that could be why.

I'm all for development of new theories though, I'll keep an eye on this string! ;-)

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manderin
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posted January 27, 2018 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well it doesn't have to be mars. I just used mars as an example. It can be any planet conjunct SN.

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posted January 28, 2018 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This would make sense because the south node tends to drain the energy of whatever planet it's next to

May I know what makes you think so?

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posted January 28, 2018 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Iridia:
[QUOTE]This would make sense because the south node tends to drain the energy of whatever planet it's next to

May I know what makes you think so?

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Personal experience- and it's also the opinion of many professional astrologers. "Draining" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Depends on the case.

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posted January 28, 2018 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iridia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The south node is what we become well familiar with, starting in the early life. Circumstances, tendencies. When I see a planet on this point, what I think is the qualities it represents figure in the personality quite strongly (for better or worse). Or, if it's Saturn and up (maybe Mars in some cases), the person could be equipped to deal with the challenging themes due to gained experience. If it's a personal planet, it might mean they aren't/weren't in rush to visit their north node, especially if it's the Moon. The comfort zone thing would be emphasised here. If someone considers the south node to be predominantly or purely malefic, I can see how they would conclude the planet is drained, whatever that means.

You say about personal experience. You see, sometimes we can point our finger where we shouldn't. If you believe there's something wrong with your planet (or rather, the part of you it represents), I'd investigate its hard aspects again I were you.

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"Draining" isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Now I'm wondering what it means to have a drained planet not in a bad way.

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