posted February 05, 2018 04:45 AM            

I’m curious as to what triggered this. In synastry they have some nice aspects but nothing really stands out for the strong connection they have if you base it on them lacking the much touted aspects everyone wants Mars/Venus, Sun/Moon, Sun/Venus, Sun/Ascendant, vertex, angles etc.

She is blue and he is red.

I can see:
* Mercuries are trined as strongest aspect
* Chiron trines both moons
* no strong sexual contacts between them and no primary Pluto influence but both have their own sexual planet in their own 8th house (his Mars in 8th in her 1st, her Venus in 8th in his 2nd)
* Symbolism in action. She is Sag sun with a stellium in 6th house and he is Virgo sun with 9th house stelliium.
* Really strong house activation in this relationship - everything she tells me relates to house activation, he talked about marriage early in the relationship (his moon in her 7th), she finds him very physically attractive and manly(his mars in her 1st), he has a bromance and always talking with her brother (his Jupiter and Mercury in her 3rd), they have an extremely active sex life filled with role play and fantasy in their daily lives (her Neptune conjunction sun and trining his Jupiter in her 6th and in his 1st), the relationship makes her very happy, secure and is less dramatic than other relationships (his Sun, Venus & Saturn in her 4th)

Am I missing something big in their Synastry?

Would unaspected sexual planets in synastry put more emphasis on their house position?

He is more keen on a child than her, would urgent baby making be his Uranus in her 5th sextiling her Moon in her 4th?

Also, both have difficult mother in laws in this relationship. I wondered if that could be seen.

Or is the composite more telling? I have put this up with the transits on the wedding day.

Also, I saw North Node in 5th in the Composite and was wondering if that might indicate a much wanted baby. However, I’m concerned that it squares the moon and Chiron.

Interestingly, she has an Indian psychic who insisted that she pursue her now husband when she was interested in another man. He said that he would be the one for her and she kept saying are you sure as he isn’t interested in a (long distance) relationship. It did start when she moved closer to her job and nearer to him.

Synastry

Composite

posted February 05, 2018 03:18 PM            

There's a neptune trine mars in composite too which I would think would add romantic vibes.

posted February 05, 2018 03:48 PM            

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Originally posted by mereiposa:

Synastry is bizarre. So many unaspected planets though! Some good contacts, but many things left untouched.

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Yes, this synastry has me really puzzled. The unaspected planets are the big players in relationships! I wondered if anyone has seen a relationship like this? It makes me think that these planets are acting in a purer form if that makes sense.

From what little I know of Composites I think it looks great especially with the Vertex/Juno conjunction on the DC but by all accounts the synastry aspects doesn’t seem strong enough to pull them together into dating let alone to get to Composite stage of a committed relationship?

posted February 05, 2018 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
Is the first chart the synastry chart?

If so they DO have Sun conjunct Moon.

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posted February 06, 2018 09:14 AM            

I do note a Juno-Venus and Juno-Mars providing some sexual chemistry.

To me the Saturn on her Moon is the 'loudest' aspect here. Brings to mind, "at last I am safe and protected."
That's what she means by him being manly I think.

The composite Uranus prominence will be interesting. I accidentally read that he was interested in men, you haven't written that at all but....it would explain the urgency for a child.

(please don't pass on that doubt to her, I wouldn't mention it to a client but the synastry does seem unlikely..)

posted February 06, 2018 08:04 PM            

then the is definitely a sense of destiny that added to their abrupt actions. The Uranus/veus conjunction was squared by the transiting node last summer with the node square to veus and conjunct to mars on sept 24 and 25ht. I would think they met or became involved in july as the node was square to Uranus on july 8th. the September date mught be near their elopement .
with the vertex conjunct the descendant a relationship always seems destinical as they find that each other has experienced similar unusual synchronistic coincides or other wordily or alter realities or experiences that they never could share with anyone.
in addition the karma/Aphrodite midpoints with Venus and Uranus are conjunct the moon which again could have triggered their emotions to elope as a completion of karma.
especially as the moon is already subject to the natal nodal psychihc conection and the sometimes abrupt and unusual energies of Chiron.loookig t the chart fronn this perspective the elopement could have taken place between when the transiting node was square the moon on December 5th 2017 and December 28th when the transiting node was conjuct the natal node. I would place the elopement in the latter December time because the transiting node formed a near exact station over the natal node from dec 21 to dec 27.

then the need for a child seems to be connect to child conjunct to priapus as this symbol is the physical involvement of the lunar and solar desires, show the deep impulse for a child.and with ceres square priapus, I would think that she has always wanted a child.

from his side , I could see him being bisexual as the mars/Neptune midpoint is conjunct to pluto and Lilith. if Neptune had been square to mars instead of trine , I would have ventured he was gay instead of bisexual.
but this pattern of aspects is not conduciove to a long term relationship as it shows there is a basic selfishness that is unexpressed and not felt or acknowledged.

the are a lot of unconscious energies affecting the conscious decisions here, which is not usually a good thing when looking at composites of relationship which need a conscious meshing of emotions and minds.

todd

posted February 07, 2018 12:27 PM            

His Asc ruler Pluto is conjunct her Dsc ruler Saturn. These two are generational planets and the two of them will have this aspect with many people but the important thing here is that they rule the first and seventh house respectively and this makes ALL the difference.

Her Asc ruler Moon is in the same sign as his Dsc ruler Venus and his Sun.

posted February 07, 2018 02:17 PM            

Todd
“understanding the most intimate workings of each other” -
yes this is very important to her. Probably in any relationship she’s had, has been analysed and frustrated if not understood

“ her as "quirky", not responding in a normal/expected manner to common emotion interactions. chiron does give a brilliant mid but it comes also with a very analytical, investigative tendency that will offer incisive insights to others behavior whether they want to hear it or not. so she may be noted for speaking her mind even if her friendships suffer from her outburst of opinion” -
This is 100% scarily accurate. I’ve not seen this directed at friends but occasionally people on the street, waitstaff, immigration control (and family for sure from her accounts). From my understanding she has outgrown and moved apart from her school friends. She appears very feminine and a bit vague but has a sharp mind, cutting wit and has a memory like an elephant for details.

“then the is definitely a sense of destiny that added to their abrupt actions” -
I wonder if being told by a psychic reinforced this

Timeline
July - purchased house together
August- shopping for engagement ring
September- moved in together
10 December - wedding date and then honeymoon
I can’t remember when they actually started going out.

“I would think that she has always wanted a child” -
very much the case

“from his side , I could see him being bisexual.” -
Hmm, I will keep a look out for any signs then

“the are a lot of unconscious energies affecting the conscious decisions here, which is ot usually a good thing when looking at composites of relationship which need a conscious meshing of emotions and minds.” -
Would any of that unconscious energy possibly point to wanting financial advancement on her part by any chance? Wouldn’t have any idea on his.

LaceyLeigh
Yes, I try to keep orbs reduced to filter out wide aspects like 8-10 degrees. They have some nice empathetic aspects in synastry agree.

posted February 07, 2018 05:24 PM            

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“understanding the most intimate workings of each other” -
yes this is very important to her. Probably in any relationship she’s had, has been analysed and frustrated if not understood

“ her as "quirky", not responding in a normal/expected manner to common emotion interactions. chiron does give a brilliant mid but it comes also with a very analytical, investigative tendency that will offer incisive insights to others behavior whether they want to hear it or not. so she may be noted for speaking her mind even if her friendships suffer from her outburst of opinion” -
This is 100% scarily accurate. I’ve not seen this directed at friends but occasionally people on the street, waitstaff, immigration control (and family for sure from her accounts). From my understanding she has outgrown and moved apart from her school friends. She appears very feminine and a bit vague but has a sharp mind, cutting wit and has a memory like an elephant for details.

“then the is definitely a sense of destiny that added to their abrupt actions” -
I wonder if being told by a psychic reinforced this

Timeline
July - purchased house together
August- shopping for engagement ring
September- moved in together
10 December - wedding date and then honeymoon
I can’t remember when they actually started going out.

“I would think that she has always wanted a child” -
very much the case

“from his side , I could see him being bisexual.” -
Hmm, I will keep a look out for any signs then

“the are a lot of unconscious energies affecting the conscious decisions here, which is ot usually a good thing when looking at composites of relationship which need a conscious meshing of emotions and minds.” -
Would any of that unconscious energy possibly point to wanting financial advancement on her part by any chance? Wouldn’t have any idea on his...............
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Would any of that unconscious energy possibly point to wanting financial advancement on her part by any chance?

you know, I almost included that thought when I saw the juno/vertex/descendant but ran short on time... I also noticed that the psyche/eros midpoint was conjunct to ceres and square chils/priapus. so the desire for children is very much part of their love.todd

posted February 08, 2018 03:42 PM            

I can't read about children either. the only apsects I have ever noticed was if a woman has mars square to venus, then children seem to come. possibly with the composite mars square venus, this may apply.
but with children I look to the astrological method to anticipate ovulation.
if a woman doesn't have a recent history of birth control pills then when the sun and moon in her chart replicate the exact degree by transit,each other regardless of sign , a woman ovulates. so sex on that day or 3 days before ill lead to pregnancy if she is physically able .
so if a woman has ,say,the moon 90 degrees before the sun in her natal,then every month when the moon is 90 degrees before the sun by transit, she will ovulate.
over the years I have found this to be exact almost to the minute of when ovulation begins.

posted February 08, 2018 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
hi WhiteMoon

I can't read about children either. the only apsects I have ever noticed was if a woman has mars square to venus, then children seem to come. possibly with the composite mars square venus, this may apply.
but with children I look to the astrological method to anticipate ovulation.
if a woman doesn't have a recent history of birth control pills then when the sun and moon in her chart replicate the exact degree by transit,each other regardless of sign , a woman ovulates. so sex on that day or 3 days before ill lead to pregnancy if she is physically able .
so if a woman has ,say,the moon 90 degrees before the sun in her natal,then every month when the moon is 90 degrees before the sun by transit, she will ovulate.
over the years I have found this to be exact almost to the minute of when ovulation begins.

todd

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Thanks Todd! I think I got it.. Maybe. She is 96 degrees so the next time that difference occurs is 23 Feb about 8pm GMT. It’s a faff to work out using Astrodienst because the moon moves so quickly. They could do with a setting for it.

posted August 20, 2018 06:55 AM            

I think i had the wrong calculation for the first two months and didn’t pick this up until the 3rd month. She seemed to confirm the third month as being reliable.