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manderin
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posted February 27, 2018 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me: Aug, 4, 1979 10:25 am New York, New York

Him: Nov 7, 1973 no time on birth certificate but his mom says it was in the afternoon. New York, NY

I just can't figure out why he's so incredibly cold towards me. He asks me to do things for him which I happily do. But when I ask him to do things for me it is a huge struggle and a lot of times he'll just lie and say he did it when he didn't... and he'll still ask me for something in the same breath!

We spent so much time together over the years as friends (and as more than friends at one point) but he can be incredibly cold and unemotional towards me. I didn't think it was possible for someone that you see so often for years and years can treat you like you just don't matter to them.

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SecretGeek
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posted February 27, 2018 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please make sure the info is correct:

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manderin
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posted February 27, 2018 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it is correct. Thank you. I always struggle with posting charts, but also- I know everyone has their prefferred method, whether it's Synastry, composite, vedic, sidereal, tropical etc, etc... so that's why I just posted the birth times so people could do what they wanted.

I really appreciate it. I feel like we have fairly ok synastry yet, he really acts coldly towards me a lot of the times and it really, really hurts. I sincerely wonder if he'd grieve for more than an hour if something happened to me.

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posted February 27, 2018 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are very welcome. His Nessus is on your Mars and his Saturn on your Dejanira. He looks very dominant from here.

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manderin
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posted February 28, 2018 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure what you mean by dominant, but actually he's very soft-spoken. He just seems very self centered and doesn't seem to care for me much. I thought we would at least remain friendly in our lives, but due to his treatment of me it looks more likely we're going to end up enemies. He actually has more to lose from that than I do if it comes about. He's religious and doesn't like being seen with me because I'm not part of his very religious cult. - And I'm ok with this. It's not like we're engaged or seeing each other so it's not a big deal to me. What is a big deal is that I feel even strangers offer me more courtesy than he does and this is very hurtful.

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posted February 28, 2018 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty sad. Sounds like he lost the best thing he ever had. Just know that time heals portions of wounds so no need to do something silly. Being self-centered could classify as being dominant in this context.

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posted February 28, 2018 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessus has a history of giving abuse and Dejanira has a history of being abused. I am not implying he has or will do something negative, but if you pull back I would beware of the negative connotations.

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manderin
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posted March 01, 2018 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does his sun and mercury opposing my chiron do this too? Or maybe it's that his venus is square my ascendant and my mars? Venus is the planet of caring for others, right?

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posted March 01, 2018 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Possibly. Sounds like you two are not spiritually yoked. Physical chemistry appears to be hot though. Might help me to understand if you discuss your spiritual faiths. His Neptune (9th?) is square your NN in the 12th.

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manderin
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posted March 05, 2018 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes he is very religious but he's not spiritual. In other words he listens to all the 'rules' religion has to offer, but doesn't seem to understand the spirit behind them. It is more important to him to put up the appearance of religion rather than actually following all of it equally when he's in private.

I consider myself more spiritual than religious though I'm trying to become a little more religious as an extension of my spirituality- not for appearances sake.

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posted March 05, 2018 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish you well.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted March 07, 2018 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not cold. Just not hot enough for your passionate nature. And my question is ; why try?

I am concerned about your Moon-Nep conjunct in 3rd house that is intent on overlooking the abuse (even obsessively). And he ain't worth the trouble.

Moon-Mars opp on your side suggests an attraction to his Moon in Aries perhaps?

Maybe even his Sun/Merc conj drew your Mars in Gem? And his North node in Sag opp your Mars is quite a pull too.

But he has Sat square Moon, Saturn opp Venus. So he doesn't let love in. Not without being extremely suspicious of it. Many walls up.

Add the worrying Uranus-Mars opp which can make him arrogant about doing what he wants, when he wants. And answering to no-one.

Temper issues are also suggested by this aspect. Especially when we add Chiron in Aries to the mix("macho man" tendencies)

I know that his Jupiter is close to your 5th. That's hot. And your Aries DSC is on some primal level attracted to the "He-Man".

Keep him as a friend. If you want more,he can hurt you because he is not consistent. There are too many hoops to jump through here.

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manderin
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posted March 07, 2018 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for all the analysis!

As stated we are not romatically involved and I have no plans to be so with him. No interest in it whatsoever.

We are friends... but that's what's painful. He will ask me to hold his hand in the hospital when he needs tests done... but if I'm the one in the hospital he's no where to be found and doesn't even give me a phone call to ask how I'm doing. To me that's not a real friend at all.

The thing is that he has shattered my world view. Before him I didn't think it was humanly possible for someone to know another person and see them on an almost daily basis for over 10 years and be completely indifferent about them. Before him I would've said such a person didn't exist. Now I see that a person of this sort can exist, but it doesn't make any sense to me.. so now it's like the whole world doesn't make any sense anymore.

I guess if it weren't for the fact that we have to stay in contact for work it would be easier.

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posted March 13, 2018 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Randall
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posted March 20, 2018 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for putting up the chart, SG!

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