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ChildofVenus
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posted March 16, 2018 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People who are flighty, Uranian or have Sag placements in their natal chart. When their Saturn aspects another persons planets in synastry.

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posted March 16, 2018 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine Tests     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
People who are flighty, Uranian or have Sag placements in their natal chart.

I have Uranus, Jupiter and Neptune in Sagittarius and 5th house.

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When their Saturn aspects another persons planets in synastry.

Can you elaborate on the aspect and planet(s) being aspected by Saturn?

Incidentally, I've completed the composite chart interpretation you previously requested. Refer here. It addresses the significance of Saturn conjunct Uranus in the 5th house.

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posted March 16, 2018 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can you elaborate on the aspect and planet(s) being aspected by Saturn?

Incidentally, I've completed the composite chart interpretation you previously requested. Refer here. It addresses the significance of Saturn conjunct Uranus in the 5th house.


Thanks I appreciate the reading. So basically the sexual compatibility between us would be lacking. Due to the Saturn being in the 5th house? But what about our synastry? Wouldn't some of the synastry overlays help with the composite chart? In synastry We have Venus conjunct Mars, Sun/Moon DW and a lot of our planets sextile and trine by sign and their Moon is in my 5th house. I've read that Moon in the 5th house is a nice fun aspect. I know the composite chart is important. But it seems that we are sexually attracted to each other.

But what I mean is if lets say the persons Saturn sextiles and Parallels the other persons Moon. Personal planets are Moon, Venus, Mercury and Mars.

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posted March 16, 2018 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine Tests     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So basically the sexual compatibility between us would be lacking.

The inference is that romance and pleasure would be constrained. It can therefore be reasoned that this precipitates that sex, as a convergence of romance and pleasure, may be constrained in some fashion.

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Due to the Saturn being in the 5th house?

Composite Uranus also plays its part.

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Wouldn't some of the synastry overlays help with the composite chart?

Of course. The aspects you've referenced are most promising. Equally, many aspects of the composite chart are promising.

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But it seems that we are sexually attracted to each other.

A relationship is a continuum. Mostly all couples are sexually attracted to each other initially.

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But what I mean is if lets say the persons Saturn sextiles and Parallels the other persons Moon.

This accords with the composite chart. Saturn sextile Moon implies that he will loyally dedicate himself to you in reciprocation of your emotional support. My interpretation of the composite Moon's aspects reveals that he will be subordinate to you. The dedication of service will not be mutual though it's not contentious due to the Sun trining the Moon.

Saturn sextile Moon furthermore implies an aptitude for withstanding relational adversity. This is supported in the composite chart by Venus opposite Pluto and Chiron opposite Saturn. As a couple, you'll be magnetically bound to each other for a protracted period of time. This doesn't necessarily imply that the protraction will be healthy or pleasurable.

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posted March 16, 2018 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This accords with the composite chart. Saturn sextile Moon implies that he will loyally dedicate himself to you in reciprocation of your emotional support. My interpretation of the composite Moon's aspects reveals that he will be subordinate to you. The dedication of service will not be mutual though it's not contentious due to the Sun trining the Moon.

Saturn sextile Moon furthermore implies an aptitude for withstanding relational adversity. This is supported in the composite chart by Venus opposite Pluto and Chiron opposite Saturn. As a couple, you'll be magnetically bound to each other for a protracted period of time. This doesn't necessarily imply that the protraction will be healthy or pleasurable.



So it's best that I don't get involved with this person at all? I don't know what reason I will give for not wanting to.

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posted March 16, 2018 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine Tests     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So it's best that I don't get involved with this person at all? I don't know what reason I will give for not wanting to.

Personally, I wouldn't permit a synastry or composite chart to dictate what relationships I initiate. I would, however, rely on the charts to alert me to early indications of relational red-flags. This ensures that, should the charts begin to prove to be true to life, I'll divest myself at the appropriate time.

In your particular case, the red-flag would be anything less than a holistic satiation of your needs for pleasure.

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posted March 16, 2018 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Personally, I wouldn't permit a synastry or composite chart to dictate what relationships I initiate. I would, however, rely on the charts to alert me to early indications of relational red-flags. This ensures that, should the charts begin to prove to be true to life, I'll divest myself at the appropriate time.

In your particular case, the red-flag would be anything less than a holistic satiation of your needs for pleasure.



The issues in regards to pleasure is this something that can be be resolved? Does Saturn in the 5th house always mean no children? Moon in the 5th house in synastry can be an indicator of two people wanting to have children.

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posted March 16, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine Tests     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The issues in regards to pleasure is this something that can be be resolved?

Yes. You're confronting a challenge, not an absolute impossibility.

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Does Saturn in the 5th house always mean no children?


No though it held true for me in a former relationship due to my partner being too old to conceive.

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Moon in the 5th house in synastry can be an indicator of two people wanting to have children.


Exactly. Continue to objectively assimilate and analyse all variables. Deduction of aspects in isolation bares very little accuracy.

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posted March 17, 2018 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you say the the dedication of service will not be mutual. Are you saying that I won't be dedicated to him?

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posted March 17, 2018 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine Tests     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When you say the the dedication of service will not be mutual. Are you saying that I won't be dedicated to him?

The composite Moon resides in the 6th house of service, duty and health. This correlates to the emotional experiences begotten by the general day-to-day responsibilities of the relationship.

A composite Moon in the 6th house suggests a relational dynamic involving a director and a subordinate. One of you will defer to the other in terms of the action and direction of service.

The composite Moon trine composite Sun suggests harmonisation of the active and passive. The hierarchy of service will therefore be pleasing and desirable to you both.

The composite Moon square composite Jupiter suggests an over-indulgence and dependence on the emotional satisfaction derived from the hierarchy of service. Over-indulgence can be construed as selfishness and increased unilateralism in service expectation. Dependence can be construed as allowing your emotional security to be defined by how well you feel you're being served.

The composite Moon square composite Venus suggests that discordant emotions and values will be conflated as criticism or contempt. It can be construed that the slightest of deviations in the standard of service causes the narcissistic slave-master of the relationship to experience deep insecurity and profound emotional discord.

I am unable to accurately deduce which of you assumes the role of director and which of you assumes the role subordinate. In synastry, you imparted that his Saturn sextiles your Moon. This suggests that he will loyally dedicate himself to you in reciprocation of your emotional support. This tangentially conforms to the unilateralism of service suggested in the composite chart. With his Saturn sextile your Moon, it can furthermore be extrapolated that not only will he endure for the sake of your emotionality, he may also endure in spite of it. This tangentially conforms to the service-based emotional over-indulgence, dependence and disarray suggested in the composite chart.

In short, it's not the case that you won't be dedicated to him rather it is the case that one of you won't be AS dedicated to the other as the other. His Saturn sextile your Moon vaguely suggests that in terms of service, he will defer to your dictates more than you do to his. This doesn't breed dissatisfaction rather it breeds harmony. It's a rather insignificant relational dynamic that proves prevalent in most relationships. The true danger rests in the manner in which and the hubris with which you'll base your emotional security on his standard of service unto you and the relationship as a whole. Should the relationship begin to deteriorate and should he dissent against you by retracting his servile offerings, it will prove to profoundly emotionally destabilise you. Dependency is exploitable. Building your emotional security on a foundation that can be retracted from you at the whim and discretion of another person is folly.

You can avert much of this by being persistently mindful of the equality of service that exists within the relationship. The destruction of your emotional security based on his service simply cannot occur if you opt not to construct your emotional security based on his service in the first place.

The composite chart is representative of the full span of the relationship rather than any singular chronological point. The potentialities of the negative aspects we're dissecting, arguably, may not manifest until several years into the relationship. The negative aspects are the Greeks and the relationship, the Trojan horse. The composite and synastry charts bestows you with the foresight to identify and vanquish the Greeks all the while reaping the full benefit of the gifted horse.

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posted March 18, 2018 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Nine Tests!


I just want to chime in and say that was a very well-written response!

I love the way you write.

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posted March 18, 2018 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for giving your input I appreciate it and I like reading your responses.

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posted March 18, 2018 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, Nine Tests!


I just want to chime in and say that was a very well-written response!

I love the way you write.



I agree

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posted March 18, 2018 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Nine Tests what do you think about planets being sextile, trine or conjunct by sign? You seem to know a lot about astrology. So I'm just curious as to what you think about this.

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posted March 18, 2018 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, Nine Tests!

I just want to chime in and say that was a very well-written response!

I love the way you write.


I also love the way Nine writes.

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posted March 19, 2018 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's probably not best for two people to get married with this placement?

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