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ChildofVenus
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posted March 25, 2018 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have the desire to ask them questions about themselves? I'm really curious about this guy and I like asking him questions.

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posted March 25, 2018 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I'm the house person. And this guy with venus in my 12th started asking me a lot of questions about my life and family immediately after meeting him. I gave vague answers because we had just met, but he seemed to find me untrustworthy... and yeah- he would be right if he thought I didn't tell the whole truth, but why would I so soon after knowing him?

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posted March 25, 2018 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well I'm the house person. And this guy with venus in my 12th started asking me a lot of questions about my life and family immediately after meeting him. I gave vague answers because we had just met, but he seemed to find me untrustworthy... and yeah- he would be right if he thought I didn't tell the whole truth, but why would I so soon after knowing him?

I guess this would probably be the same thing with Mars being in someone's 12th house. Are you still friends with this person?

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posted March 25, 2018 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
12th house placements are so annoying in synastry and composite. Always questioning someone even if you just met them, as an 8th house person this bothers me beyond belief. I am a private person, I don't have any murders in my bag I just don't like telling people everything if we don't know each other well. I have this with someone. Several of their planets in my 12th, I can't stand them sometimes. Always pointing dumb questions at me like I'm in an interrogation room and then acting like a super sleuth Sherlock when the reality is they got nothing in return.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like Venus or Mars in the 12th synastry is the most annoying here because those are the love planets and when the love or love matters (such as trust , friendship, and dedication) are being questioned it makes me annoyed lol.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not necessarily questions about love and trust. Just being curious about the house person.

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posted March 25, 2018 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just asked the person if they have kids and asked what time they were born for astrology reasons lol.

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posted March 25, 2018 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It's not necessarily questions about love and trust. Just being curious about the house person.

Maybe for your synastry it's like that...Idk, I've had this with several people. It is always some sort of hidden agenda going on within the questioning. I've been on both sides and it is like they are trying to antagonize you with the constant questions. Just constant questions that never stop it is so annoying and unsettling sometimes. As the 12th house in some of the situations, I know that people also get annoyed with my questioning. It's perpetually a tragic house for privacy in synastry. One feels the other is keeping something "juicy" from them so the other keeps interrogating until they spill the beans. I couldn't last like that...

Makes sense, since the 12th house is hidden agendas and hidden enemies. I personally don't think it's a good house for some planets to sit in in synastry but if it works for you I don't see what's the problem i guess

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posted March 25, 2018 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[b]It's not necessarily questions about love and trust. Just being curious about the house person.


Maybe for your synastry it's like that...Idk, I've had this with several people. It is always some sort of hidden agenda going on within the questioning. I've been on both sides and it is like they are trying to antagonize you with the constant questions. Just constant questions that never stop it is so annoying and unsettling sometimes. As the 12th house in some of the situations, I know that people also get annoyed with my questioning. It's perpetually a tragic house for privacy in synastry. One feels the other is keeping something "juicy" from them so the other keeps interrogating until they spill the beans. I couldn't last like that...

Makes sense, since the 12th house is hidden agendas and hidden enemies. I personally don't think it's a good house for some planets to sit in in synastry but if it works for you I don't see what's the problem i guess[/B][/QUOTE]

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posted March 25, 2018 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't help what house your planets fall in synastry. What can you do?

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posted March 25, 2018 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It is always some sort of hidden agenda going on within the questioning."

Agreed. The person often uses the information they receive against you in some way. That's what it literally says in some interepretations.

With this guy who has his venus in my 12th- This person wanted to know where I lived... Not something I tend to share with someone soon after meeting them. He insisted on picking me up at my place. I told him I was at a bar so that he'd pick me up there instead... So I quickly left my home and ran to a bar. He picked me up at the bar and after the event he offered to drop me off at my place. I said ok, but had the car stop a block away. Well guess what? When I left the car he started following me to my apartment. I couldn't understand why since he lived far away. After dropping me off it would've made more sense for him to stay in the car and be driven back home. But no. He not only wanted to walk me to my building... but to my apartment as well. He made it clear we were just friends and nothing else earlier, so what the hell? Even though my place was a complete mess, I let him come up to see it. Then I told him I had to go to bed so he left.

The next time we went out, it was closer to his place, so I thought I'd get to see it the same he saw mine. NOPE. He freaked out when I tried to do the same thing to him as he did to me. I didn't get to see anything. When I ask him questions he doesn't want to answer. He just wants ME to disclose. He wants ME vulnerable. He doesn't want to share anything of himself. Found out later he told some people my place was a complete mess- as if I invited him up there. He also does this thing where if we happen to be alone at work he follows me around and is super friendly, but in front of other coworkers he suddenly becomes aloof towards me. I don't hate the guy. But he definitely has an agenda and I don't have the time to try to figure out what it is. I'm just going to politely stay away.

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posted March 25, 2018 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does the planet person always have to have an agenda against the house person? I'm not the type of person who would do that to anyone.

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posted March 25, 2018 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Why does the planet person always have to have an agenda against the house person? I'm not the type of person who would do that to anyone.

The thing with 12th house synastry is that you may not actually have a literal hidden agenda but due to all of the water houses being associated with paranoia of some sorts, the "hidden enemies" and "imprisonment" aspect of the 12th house becomes a paranoia in which the other person feels you keep asking questions as you are TRYING to antagonize them or something. And in turn, you as the questioner may feel like you are TOO obliged to know information about them just because you know them for so and so long. 12th house is the stepping house before the 1st house of individuality. The 12th house does not value the privacy of individuality as it is very worldly in nature. In a relationship, the 12th house can cause people to feel like they lose their privacy or individuality because they are constantly being pushed for it to come lose/out in the open by the other. It is, personally, an uncomfortable house for synastry as I am an 8th house person and love my privacy. If you are a 12th house person by nature it might not be such a big deal.

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posted March 25, 2018 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can denote a beautiful spiritual connection when you have this in synastry.
Also, yes, stalker vibes where they watch you on social media. They want to find out as much as they can about you.
Personally I don’t mind this...however if they don’t share back with you about themselves it can get a bit annoying and feel off balance.

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posted March 26, 2018 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It can denote a beautiful spiritual connection when you have this in synastry.
Also, yes, stalker vibes where they watch you on social media. They want to find out as much as they can about you.
Personally I don’t mind this...however if they don’t share back with you about themselves it can get a bit annoying and feel off balance.

So true about the social media thing. But I did apologize about all the questions though. Saying that I'm just curious about them.

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posted March 26, 2018 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
"It is always some sort of hidden agenda going on within the questioning."

Agreed. The person often uses the information they receive against you in some way. That's what it literally says in some interepretations.

With this guy who has his venus in my 12th- This person wanted to know where I lived... Not something I tend to share with someone soon after meeting them. He insisted on picking me up at my place. I told him I was at a bar so that he'd pick me up there instead... So I quickly left my home and ran to a bar. He picked me up at the bar and after the event he offered to drop me off at my place. I said ok, but had the car stop a block away. Well guess what? When I left the car he started following me to my apartment. I couldn't understand why since he lived far away. After dropping me off it would've made more sense for him to stay in the car and be driven back home. But no. He not only wanted to walk me to my building... but to my apartment as well. He made it clear we were just friends and nothing else earlier, so what the hell? Even though my place was a complete mess, I let him come up to see it. Then I told him I had to go to bed so he left.

The next time we went out, it was closer to his place, so I thought I'd get to see it the same he saw mine. NOPE. He freaked out when I tried to do the same thing to him as he did to me. I didn't get to see anything. When I ask him questions he doesn't want to answer. He just wants ME to disclose. He wants ME vulnerable. He doesn't want to share anything of himself. Found out later he told some people my place was a complete mess- as if I invited him up there. He also does this thing where if we happen to be alone at work he follows me around and is super friendly, but in front of other coworkers he suddenly becomes aloof towards me. I don't hate the guy. But he definitely has an agenda and I don't have the time to try to figure out what it is. I'm just going to politely stay away.


Wow that's really odd were any of your planets in his 12th house?

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posted March 26, 2018 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It can denote a beautiful spiritual connection when you have this in synastry.
Also, yes, stalker vibes where they watch you on social media. They want to find out as much as they can about you.
Personally I don’t mind this...however if they don’t share back with you about themselves it can get a bit annoying and feel off balance.

Wow this thread is interesting, I have Sun-Mercury in my bf's 12th (conjunct his Uranus) and I always have trouble with it... But there IS a 'spiritual connection'

And there's also a bit of what capricorncheriscty is saying... he's very reserved and not emotionally expressive, and I'm very private so I understand. But his lack of expression caused me so much anxiety at first, that I didn't trust him and was always suspicious of his intentions.

But it didn't manifest as me asking prying questions. It was largely deep under the surface, we hardly ever talked bout it.

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posted March 26, 2018 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the sign probably matters some too. My 12th house is Leo so the person's Venus in my 12th also has their venus in Leo.

A Leo Venus person wants a partner that they can show off. That's just the trait of that particular placement. So if a Leo Venus only tries to be around you when no one is able to see that's an even bigger red flag than if the 12th house venus was in a different sign.

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posted March 26, 2018 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could Mars in the 12th house in synasty indicate a secret affair between two people?

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posted March 26, 2018 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My moon falls into my bf's 12H. I asked him questions like I do to any of my bf's in the past -- but the way he reacts, he comes off hesitated and uncomfortable so I tried not ask too many questions. He feels I am prying asking about his past. By nature, I can lack boundaries -- I tend to overshare with my love ones so I didn't think it would be a big deal. It was hard to describe.

Then there was a time I was the house person. I dated someone else who had his Venus in my 12H. First month, he tried to add me on FB and we barely talked (he asked for my FB)... I thought it was odd. Then he tried to ask me if I am going to <insert music events> -- which I am private about because we were co-workers and I want to keep my professionalism and it was a bit too personal - I didn't think too much of it -- thinking he was probably socially awkward. After that event, he added me on a messenger and messages me everyday like we were best friends. He opened up to me about his problems. I was there to comfort him. I guess I embrace this aspect of 12H? I am not sure if this is a house where you empathize them and they feel you just understand them because I felt our relationship was this theme. The more he opened up his problems to me the more I felt vulnerable. It was like I was on drug addiction or something.

I want to say my bf (the one who is the 12H), tells me he feels very vulnerable with me and does not remember he felt this way with other gf's in the past.

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posted March 26, 2018 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@SimplyLuna yeah I can understand how the house person would feel weird. I did the same thing added them on Fb. But I'm going to stop with the questions and the spying. I don't know why I do it as I don't have an agenda I'm just interested in learning about them.

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