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ilunatique
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posted March 28, 2018 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no quoting please

She wont understand him and that the fact that they are friends more like anything else now and will keep on abusing/hurting him. She is manipulative and will restrict him in many ways or else she hurts herself.
He cant and wont leave her on her own.
"Time will tell".
Financial stuff.

WILL LEAVING HER CREATE ANY KARMA?
WHY WONT IT END?


Thank you so much,
He is PISCES, she is SCORPIO (of course)

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ilunatique
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posted March 28, 2018 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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SecretGeek
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posted March 28, 2018 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have him set aside some cash for her. Maybe about 3 months worth. Then get the heck out of there and don't let her know where he is. Get a divorce.

Have a witness present during all physical interactions.

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FmVenusWLove
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posted April 01, 2018 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FmVenusWLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before I mention anything related to Astrology, common sense would suggest that if this relationship is as unhealthy as you've described then Mr. Pisces needs to respectfully and maturely end the relationship completely - none of this "We're just friends" nonsense. Regardless of Astrological influences, no one should feel that they have to endure emotional or mental abuse from anyone and he owes it to himself to cut ties. So, to answer his question - WILL LEAVING HER CREATE ANY KARMA? - Staying in this relationship is creating negative karma for them both. Letting it go with love will set them both free from that energy and allow their karma to be healed. Again, common sense.

That said, I disagree that Saturn is the culprit here. His Saturn conjuncts her Moon which, yes, is a hard aspect but she has Saturn conjunct Moon natally and he also has a hard Moon/Saturn aspect natally so I don't see this as being an energy that is unfamiliar or insurmountable in the greater scheme of their synasty. Saturn energy isn't typically about control or manipulation in order to stunt a partner's growth - what you described in the OP sounds like Plutonian energy.

Composite 1H Sun/Merc/Jupiter T-square with Pluto at the apex suggests that any time a partner expresses their individuality it is seen as a threat to the intimacy of the connection. Each person triggers a fear response in the other just by being his or herself. 12H Neptune/Venus on the AC opposite Moon suggests this is also a relationship that is emotionally unfocused and, at its core, unsettled. Emotions are likely intense but without grounding the feminine energies (Moon/Venus) in the relationship, it's triggering the negative expression of the active masculine energies (Sun/Mars). Without supportive feminine energy to soothe the fear byproduct of this configuration, we are seeing BOTH partners desiring to dominate and control the other. Pluto is also an obsessive and binding energy for those without the personal strength to "master their demons" which is likely why Mr. Pisces sees that this relationship is toxic but still feels it's impossible to walk away from.

The lesson here is for both partners to face their own internal fears and insecurities so they stop creating fierce imbalance in their relationships (Composite Pluto in Libra T-square). By staying in the relationship as it is, he is perpetuating the power play in a very Piscean way (i.e. avoiding action and personal responsibility - it takes 2 to tango). Ironically, embracing Saturn energy would actually help to aleviate some of this negativity (Saturn square Neptune/Venus/AC/Moon).

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted April 01, 2018 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looking at those charts, I can see that physically he really wants her, still, and perhaps that's why he may never leave the marriage


I think he knew from the start this "we're just friends" thing, with her moon in his 11th, yet he married her..obviously she is his type, with him having sun the 5th


could this friend of yours be playing the victim here? pisces can be like that

moreover he seems have to have feelings of guilt which is typical for all that pisces energy, over leaving her and then karma following him?! that sounds selfish to me, his aries moon of course

the scorpio wife obviously cares very much about him, perhaps if she cools down a bit and shows a more detached attitude, she could win his heart again

maybe as a friend you could talk to her?

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Randall
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posted April 07, 2018 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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