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ChildofVenus
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posted March 28, 2018 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible to only have a physical relationship in synastry with this aspect?
I have Moon square Venus with someone in synastry I'm Venus. Seems like I like this person more than just in a sexual way.

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posted March 28, 2018 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lovely aspect I like it

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posted March 28, 2018 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
lovely aspect I like it

But this isn't a physical only type of aspect?

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posted March 28, 2018 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moon is not physical, moon is emotional

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posted March 28, 2018 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
moon is not physical, moon is emotional

I know but I'm the Venus person.

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posted March 29, 2018 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Moon can be very physical. Depending on the sign that its in.

Moon in Taurus for instance is veeery physical. Moon in Aries and Scorpio can associate physical sex with being nurtured.

The Moon is not always emotional. Moon in Libra,Aqua,Gem can be the type to want to think their emotions through. They can be dispassionate about things that affect them personally.

So when Venus/Moon interact, we must look at the sign that they are in as well.

Venus in Gemini is not sexual nor all that emotional. And what I mean is that they are not the "bleeding heart" types. So they can often detach themselves from all that drama in love relationships.

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posted March 29, 2018 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The Moon can be very physical. Depending on the sign that its in.

Moon in Taurus for instance is veeery physical. Moon in Aries and Scorpio can associate physical sex with being nurtured.

The Moon is not always emotional. Moon in Libra,Aqua,Gem can be the type to want to think their emotions through. They can be dispassionate about things that affect them personally.

So when Venus/Moon interact, we must look at the sign that they are in as well.

Venus in Gemini is not sexual nor all that emotional. And what I mean is that they are not the "bleeding heart" types. So they can often detach themselves from all that drama in love relationships.


I'm Venus in Pisces and the other person is Moon in Sag. I know people say Venus in Pisces is emotional. But I don't know if that's always the case for me.

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posted March 29, 2018 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The Moon can be very physical. Depending on the sign that its in.

Moon in Taurus for instance is veeery physical. Moon in Aries and Scorpio can associate physical sex with being nurtured.

The Moon is not always emotional. Moon in Libra,Aqua,Gem can be the type to want to think their emotions through. They can be dispassionate about things that affect them personally.

So when Venus/Moon interact, we must look at the sign that they are in as well.

Venus in Gemini is not sexual nor all that emotional. And what I mean is that they are not the "bleeding heart" types. So they can often detach themselves from all that drama in love relationships.


I get what you say, but I still maintain that moon is how we process our emotional nature. So even if we are a physical moon, it’s still a means of emotional expression and energy. There are different levels of emotional connection for a person and what they are comfortable, true.

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posted March 29, 2018 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The Moon can be very physical. Depending on the sign that its in.

Moon in Taurus for instance is veeery physical. Moon in Aries and Scorpio can associate physical sex with being nurtured.

The Moon is not always emotional. Moon in Libra,Aqua,Gem can be the type to want to think their emotions through. They can be dispassionate about things that affect them personally.

So when Venus/Moon interact, we must look at the sign that they are in as well.

Venus in Gemini is not sexual nor all that emotional. And what I mean is that they are not the "bleeding heart" types. So they can often detach themselves from all that drama in love relationships.


Sorry I have to respectfully disagree with your above statement about Venus Gem not being a bleeding heart....you have to take the whole chart into account. I am a Venus in Gemini and my relationships are all encompassing, all or nothing. Might be my Pisces Moon but either way, that's a blanket statement. And detachment in love? PSSSTTT...not for me....again, every Venus in Gem is not going to be that way....just my 2 Cents

I am VERY emotional and quite sexual with the right person.

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posted March 29, 2018 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Sag Moons are really that emotional.

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posted March 29, 2018 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I don't think Sag Moons are really that emotional.

I had a relationship with a man with a sag moon. His Taurus venus trines my cap moon and it was definitely an emotional aspect. He was not overly emotional, but this aspect did not result in physical expression. It was a great aspect that brought us together as friends, sharing a true level of comfort together. A person doesn't have to be overtly expressive to be emotional. We are ALL emotional, just in different ways.

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posted March 29, 2018 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I had a relationship with a man with a sag moon. His Taurus venus trines my cap moon and it was definitely an emotional aspect. He was not overly emotional, but this aspect did not result in physical expression. It was a great aspect that brought us together as friends, sharing a true level of comfort together. A person doesn't have to be overtly expressive to be emotional. We are ALL emotional, just in different ways.

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posted March 29, 2018 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mereiposa:
I had a relationship with a man with a sag moon. His Taurus venus trines my cap moon and it was definitely an emotional aspect. He was not overly emotional, but this aspect did not result in physical expression. It was a great aspect that brought us together as friends, sharing a true level of comfort together. A person doesn't have to be overtly expressive to be emotional. We are ALL emotional, just in different ways.

It was probably his Taurus Venus that made him emotional.

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posted March 30, 2018 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DreamCatcher:
Sorry I have to respectfully disagree with your above statement about Venus Gem not being a bleeding heart....you have to take the whole chart into account. I am a Venus in Gemini and my relationships are all encompassing, all or nothing. Might be my Pisces Moon but either way, that's a blanket statement. And detachment in love? PSSSTTT...not for me....again, every Venus in Gem is not going to be that way....just my 2 Cents

I am VERY emotional and quite sexual with the right person.


Really?

I think it might be your Moon in Pisces which is closer to your inner nature. Gemini Venus ime are not about expressing deep emotions or being all that emotionally focused. Not unless to intellectualize those feelings in love relationships.

They are more about "describe to me how you feel" or "do you think that ....". Always showing an intellectual perspective on feelings. Especially if Gemini is in house 4,8 or 12.

They are not the type to respond instinctively to feelings by acting on them. There is always some kind of intellectual buffer. Air moons are good at appearing emotional when really they are more rational.

Pisces Venus can be for instance the type to retreat into themselves and not say a word. Sitting quietly and feeling things out.

Other more expressive Venus people will think that they are " moody", "sulky" or "distant" when this happens.

Venus in Gemini finds silence unbearable. Because even when they are outwardly silent. There is an even louder inner monologue that is busy, busy,busy.

Take for instance a scenario where a Venus in Pisces is outraged about an unfair situation at work. "I wont stand to feel like this. i will leave."

The response from a Gemini is not "come here baby, let me hold you. I understand and support whatever decision you make". But rather " Sorry to hear that.But do you perhaps think that there is something you can change to make the situation better?"

The former instinctive response is to offer emotional support. The latter is to console first but quickly rationalize the situation- Gemini Venus modus operandi.

With "sexual" I meant that sex does not become a necessity or absolute expression tool for Gemini. Some can be indifferent to doing it. But can love to talk about it. Explore it mentally but always within that perspective.

When it happens. They enjoy it. But they also enjoy many other things that share their attention. Its not likely to be a ritualistic obsessive need to act on sexual thoughts like it can be with Mars ruled signs Aries and Scorpio.


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posted March 30, 2018 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I don't think Sag Moons are really that emotional.

I agree. Many Sag Moons I know are not all that emotional.

I think by "emotional" here , I mean someone emotionally sensitive and in tune with not only their internal processes and responding to them. But is also sensitive and in tune with respecting/aware of the possible underlying emotional responses of others too.


There is something "baby" like with someone emotional. As its always their predisposition to just respond to emotions. Whether this be anger or joy. Not intellectualize, scrutinize etc. Just respond.

So the cosmic link between Aries and Cancer(fire and water) becomes clear: The former responds by being actions to emotions whilst the latter responds by internalizing their emotions."Baby-like"responses that often frustrate the more "impassive" air and earth.

Fire Moon people tend to respond with surface expression. You show em fangs, they don't ask why. They respond with aggression I.e The Donald.

Water moon people tend to respond with surface defensiveness. You show em fangs, they consider you a threat and don't ask why. They respond by avoiding you.

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posted March 30, 2018 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in a relationship for 2 years with a moon square Venus (my moon in Virgo square his Venus in sag) also in the composite, (moon in libra square venus in cap). I was very much in love, and our relationship was very affectionate. We are still very close and best friends to this day

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posted March 30, 2018 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a person who has a fire moon also has water in their chart. Would that cause them to be more emotional?

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posted March 30, 2018 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
If a person who has a fire moon also has water in their chart. Would that cause them to be more emotional?

You really have to look at the whole chart; signs, aspects, houses, dominant planets, certain asteroids etc. To see how "emotional" or sensitive someone is.
But yes, having a lot of other water planets is a strong indicator that someone will potentially be more emotional

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posted March 31, 2018 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DreamCatcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If a person who has a fire moon also has water in their chart. Would that cause them to be more emotional?

Yes. Also- I don't know how you are seeing fire as unemotional? Fire = Warmth & PASSION and Passion is emotion....and I said above- you need to take the WHOLE chart into account.

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posted March 31, 2018 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mereiposa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes. Also- I don't know how you are seeing fire as unemotional? Fire = Warmth & PASSION and Passion is emotion....and I said above- you need to take the WHOLE chart into account.


Yes! My daughter is a fire moon and is very emotional. Yes, her whole chart plays in to it. However, I am surrounded by Sag moon people and they are all emotionally connected people.

Air moons are emotional too. The moon is our emotional expression- the sign and element just color how we express. But it does not mean devoid of emotion!

If you find someone who seems unemotional, it is possible you don't know them well enough for them to have let down their guard to show you their form of emotion.

Also, I feel like we are possibly debating semantics. When I say moon is emotional, I am not saying moon is always a crying, over the top expressive sign of every emotion happening at that moment. I just say moon is our means of feeling and showing emotion.

Take this example, my other daughter is an Air moon, conjunct Saturn. She is a wonderfully expressive person. She does not share an exuberant display of emotion with anyone, even me. But what she does do is process her emotions through analysis and thought, and the Saturn gives her groundedness and stability, along with grace and reserve. But I guarantee you that if you know her well enough, she is very much an emotional being. She will cry, she will express love, anger, all of it... at her own comfort level. She chooses to express her bigger emotions through journaling and with privacy. Very Air of her, right?

She is Air mars, sun, moon, and saturn, with earth venus and mercury. I do not think her earth venus is overriding all that air, I think it just colors her true nature.


So back to your original question, can moon aspect venus be purely physical? i think no, because I think purely physical is like a Mars Venus aspect. It is all sexual, but without more personal planets involved (like Moon and Sun), it results in not much more. Moon ties is true camaraderie, friendship... with venus, you like each other! You're friends, and that is because emotionally you connect, not just physically.

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posted April 01, 2018 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks mereiposa ☺ that makes sense.

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posted April 07, 2018 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

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