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madelineleo23
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posted April 29, 2018 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guy and I are going through some issues right now and I just feel so lost without him. The connection feels very intense (at least on my end). I need some advice and perspective on this synastry. How does he feel?

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posted April 30, 2018 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Pluto/Mars transits are on either of your relationship houses 7th,5th or 8th-there is likely latent issues that need to be ironed out.

Look to where Aries/Scorpio is in your chart in conjunction to what I wrote. Its a tense period for people affected by Pluto/Mars energy.

I have Pluto in 7th(you better not disagree with me), Mars opp Asc(touchy).

So the 7th/6th house axis cusp is always a point of tension with the 8th house in Scorpio also being a sore point in my chart. Look at your chart to see what role you are playing in the tension.

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posted May 02, 2018 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Aries. I think there is a moon/pluto situation going on here. I just don't know how to handle all of this intensity. I wish I knew how he felt about me.

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posted May 02, 2018 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You've got a whole lot of Neptune at the moment Madeline.

It's squaring your Mars and coming up to square your Asc/Dsc which is very confusing. Added to with transiting Pluto exactly conjunct your natal Neptune at the moment!

Since Neptune rules the 3rd and is in mutual reception with Saturn in your chart, this is a big lesson in reality vs fantasy, clarity vs not speaking up for what you actually want.

The challenge here is to try to be more clear in your relationship and to discuss the situation with him candidly. It's lovely that you are drawn to him so much, but unless it's mutual it's a story, a dream.... That can be fine too, if it's enough for you!

With Pluto transiting his North Node, this is a big lesson for him too, which bodes well. As do the great Jupiter connections between you both.

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posted May 02, 2018 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please include priapus, kaali, isis, osiris, eros, psyche, nessus, dejanira, juno, chiron.

Thanks.

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posted May 02, 2018 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But is a nice synastry venus conjunct mars, mars sextile venus, mars opposite neptune, pluto on northnode, moon square pluto, moon conjunct pluto, sun conjunct jupiter...

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posted May 03, 2018 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waxlobster,

Thank you for your perspective. I just feel so confused. What do you mean by fantasy and mutual? As in our relationship is a fantasy in my mind and he doesn't feel the same way about me?

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posted May 03, 2018 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hypatia. I did see that we had a venus/mars double whammy, and moon/pluto double whammy. Do you see any indications of longevity? Can you tell me about Pluto on the North Node? I really feel like he and I have a great connection.

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posted May 03, 2018 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the composite is more telling about longevity, synastry gets you to the door.

But as far as longevity and synastry you want to check JUNO which is the marriage and soulmate asteroid and the nodes, ideally Saturn aspect the nodes or his venus on her northnode but not reverse as that is a divorce marker. Check for planets that square the nodes.

But Sun conjunct Jupiter and Moon conjunct Saturn can be longevity markers.

Pluto on the northnode I don't feel is a longevity marker, feels more like the pluto person will help the northnode person let go of some baggage needed for a turning point to happen and for them to get back on track with their journey and personal growth. Pluto is about transformation, not about longevity.

I recently had a quick friendship with someone I had moon opposite pluto by 1d and his Pluto opposite exact my moon so we had a moon opposite pluto double whammy. My pluto conjuncted exact his southnode. He was having difficulty mentally and with grief related to his brother who passed a few years ago. My pluto on his SN was about helping him move on and leave the past behind. Anyways I just hanged out twice with him. In composite we had saturn trine northnode. Under different circumstances and if the age gap was a lot smaller I could see how it could have turned into something lasting possibly.

Pluto I feel is about transformation and not a longevity marker. Pluto/Moon synastry aspects brings the shadow side to the surface that is in your subconscious and makes you work through it so it can be great for personal growth, healing and transformation. You do feel a pull to each other and drawn to each other and feel at home together, it reminds me of moon conjunct moon. Pluto makes you feel close fast but doesnt necessarily mean longevity. It creates that sense of intimacy and closeness quickly though.

Saturn is longevity, Saturn will pass the test of time, Saturn wants to stick it out.

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posted May 03, 2018 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for waxlobster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by madelineleo23:
Waxlobster,

Thank you for your perspective. I just feel so confused. What do you mean by fantasy and mutual? As in our relationship is a fantasy in my mind and he doesn't feel the same way about me?


Of course he doesn't feel 'the same way'. A relationship is about two individuals becoming closer, sharing their truths and learning one anothers. It's not about having the same' feelings it's about whether it's possible to share and connect on enough levels to be accepted as you are.

Neptune can make things foggy, it can make things beautiful, it can make anything possible. We have to live in the grounded world too though and that's where Neptune messes up, when the grounded comparative of Saturnine life comes into play.

Maybe what I'm saying is vague but that is also the realm of Neptune. Showing him how you feel in the most subtle way is Neptune...♥

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posted May 04, 2018 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish that I knew what to do...is this just a bump in the road for us or is it the end? I've been trying to look at my transits, and I see a Sun/Uranus transit approaching soon. It is making me worried.

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posted May 07, 2018 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for featherlightly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have some really beautiful synastry here (Venus/Mars double whammy, angle connections, 7th house activation, etc.), but it's easy to see where the feelings of fear and insecurity come from.

With your sensitive Mercury in Cancer opposing his Uranus/Neptune and clashing with his direct, sometimes self-focused Mercury in Aries, you may be feeling like you don't get the kind of communication you need for reassurance. Especially also with your natal Venus/Saturn opposition leading you to feel somewhat needy in relationships -- relationship insecurity is a big theme for you in general; you might always feel like the other person doesn't love you enough, that you're on the verge of losing them, etc. So, keep in mind that a lot of your feelings right now are coming from your own energies and not just from him. Your moon is also only receiving squares from his chart, from his Pluto and sun, and that can be a bit brutal for the sensitive moon, even in detached Aquarius... your moon rules your 8th house, which gives it more depth and passion... getting clobbered by squares can leave you feeling raw and not treated particularly gently. Likewise, his moon in your 12th can make it hard for you to pinpoint where he is emotionally (hence, you asking here how he feels about you!).

The double whammy of Mercury square and opposition Neptune/Uranus between both your charts could cause communication issues in general. Lack of clarity, misunderstandings, unintended deception, erraticness... he's not as present as you like in terms of consistent communication and reassurance, and you might not be expressing yourself clearly in terms of what you want from him, so he probably doesn't even realize how tormented you're feeling. Being clear with each other is super, super important, as well as acknowledging that this relationship (due to the Uranus/Mercury hard aspects) might have a certain inconsistency that never feels fully stable. Ironically, the instability IS what's consistent, so if you can release the need for your communication patterns to look a certain way and for him to behave a certain way, you might find the relationship becomes much stronger.

His free-spirited Sagittarius moon (in the fun-loving 5th house) on your more intense Scorpio Pluto might make you feel like you have to 'lock him down' and control him so he doesn't flit away -- especially at times when you feel insecure in the relationship. But the reality is, he's more likely to stick around if you let go of the need to cage him and just focus on building confidence in yourself, in your own life, your own hobbies, etc., your own *worth* -- because trust me, you have plenty! His Venus in Gemini might come across as flighty and ready to bolt as soon as the next interesting thing comes along, but he's a steady Taurus with Saturn conjunct the descendant, so he WILL commit to things he considers worthwhile as long as he has freedom to be himself (his sun square Uranus adds to his need for space).

Basically, you have plenty in the synastry here to create a long-lasting relationship. I'm mostly focusing on the challenging stuff, but there's a ton of goodness... sun/Jupiter conjunctions are wonderful... sun trine Venus and Chiron... the classic "glue" connections of your Saturn to his Mars and sun. What needs to happen in order for that to work is 1) letting go of the need for control, of keeping tabs on him, of acting in indirect ways to get him to confirm his love for you (he either won't pick up on this or he'll feel like he's being manipulated). It would also be a wonderful opportunity to build your own self esteem so that you truly recognize your own value. Venus/Saturn in your chart really takes a wrecking ball to that, and the less you value yourself, the less your partner will value you too. Above all, COMMUNICATE. If you're unclear about his feelings, ask him clearly, directly, and honestly, by stating that you're really into him and want to know whether you should continue investing time into the connection with him. Whatever hints you think he can pick up on, assume he doesn't -- his Mercury Aries needs things to be direct -- he'll likely respond well to very honest communication.

Good luck.

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posted May 08, 2018 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Featherlightly. Thank you for such a sincere response. So basically, I just need to be direct with him in what I want? I feel like most of my insecurities in this relationship are coming from my own issues. He has stated that he wanted me to work on my insecurities. I guess I am just looking for the answer of: will it last? I came down too hard on him when he was showing me nothing but loyalty and consistency. I just have this terrible fear of loosing him. It's really bad. I think we are slowly working on our issues because I seen him on Sunday and things were fine. I didn't bring up anything about how I was feeling because I wanted to show him I was being more confident and positive.

Do I just leave him alone? Or do I still talk to him? I know that astrology can never truly give us the answer we are looking for, but I feel so deeply that we could really be together for a long time, even if there is bumps in the road. I do worry about the Venus/Uranus aspect that we have though...as well as that Moon/Pluto. Even though I have an Aquarius moon, his Sag moon and Gemini venus worry me. I hope that his Taurus sun brings him down to earth. He consumes all of my thoughts, and I just want to be with him all the time. I love his company and how he treats me. I really hope it works but I don't know if I should just walk away to end this feeling of uncertainty...

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posted May 14, 2018 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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madelineleo23
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posted May 16, 2018 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: The relationship ended on Sunday. I am feeling many different emotions. I'm not sure if there's a chance we will fix things in the future...

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posted May 16, 2018 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m sorry to hear that..... wishing you the best and sending healing energy 😇😘
Do you want to maybe post the composite?
It will help us get a bigger picture about the relationship itself and the dynamics and maybe what went wrong and if you will possibly reconcile.

Also, I noticed his moon is 0 degrees sag, is the birth time 100 percent accurate? He could have a Scorpio moon... was he more sensitive, jealous, secretive or reserved, slow to open up and hated talking about his feelings? Or was he more light-hearted, very goofy/funny and philosophical, liked to travel or do outdoorsy thing, or very honest/blunt?
Because I noticed the birthtime you had for him says 11:30 but it looked like it was rounded or could be an estimate. Also the fact your DSC ruler is mercury in cancer, which would make sense if he was born a bit earlier so he would have cancer rising, and his moon would be in late degree Scorpio and that’s probably a big reason why you didn’t know how he felt about you. Because like I was saying earlier, Scorpio moon is very reserved and likes to keep their true thoughts and feelings to themselves, they can seem very distant or hot/cold because of this which keeps you uncertain/insecure or guessing since they’re usually very unexpressive, at least verbally. You also mentioned “all this intensity” which would again fit with the Scorpio moon nature....

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posted May 16, 2018 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Luna, I once asked him for is TOB and he said it was between 11:30pm - 12:00 pm. He was definitely very positive, loved to laugh, loved to travel, and was very blunt. If I post the composite will it really be accurate because of not knowing his exact TOB?

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posted May 16, 2018 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh okay, well it was definitely probably sag then
And yes please post it!
It doesn’t matter if the time is off by a few minutes, shouldn’t affect too much. Seems like you have the right time

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posted May 17, 2018 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is the composite.

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madelineleo23
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posted May 18, 2018 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think Luna?

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posted May 18, 2018 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madelineleo23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think Luna?

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