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Topic: Desire to “merge”
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Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3154 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted May 06, 2018 09:43 PM
I don’t know if anyone has ever had this feeling. It sounds weird, especially when worded this way, but I can’t find any other word to describe it.It’s not like “merging” in the sense that you want to make babies with the other person. It’s the feeling of wanting to LITERALLY “be one” with the other person. You feel so comfortable with the person that it’s almost impossible not to give physical touch. I feel like this with my partner. I feel so comfortable around him, I cannot resist touching him—whether it’s a kiss or a hug or cuddles, etc. Sometimes, I have images run through my head whenever I get this feeling. The images always show my soul and his soul literally merging. There have been times when I’d leave the house without him when we fight, and I’d get this indescribable feeling that it doesn’t feel right not having him around. It’s not even that we are co-dependent. Believe it or not, we have our own separate lives, hobbies, and friends. The feeling is not one-sided, either. When he left for a month to go on a trip, he messaged me saying he felt alone because I wasn’t there with him. He said I was his home. He also likes to give me physical touch and affection. The one time when he wanted to have sex while he was intoxicated, he called it a “soul bond”. I found it odd even though he was drunk. I wonder if this can be seen in either synastry or composite charts? And if so, what aspects or placements would indicate it? Any insight would be appreciated. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek Knowflake Posts: 1262 From: Dallas Registered: Nov 2013
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posted May 06, 2018 09:54 PM
Pluto aspect to Venus. Pluto aspect to Moon.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 06, 2018 10:31 PM
That is Priapus stuff, check what Priapus is doing in your own natal, synastry and composite. A lot of people have talked extensively about Priapus here in Lindaland and it is always referred to as a strong desire to merge.My ex and I have Priapus trine Priapus with my Priapus activating by conjunction his Isis conjunct Osiris and his Priapus conjuncting my Osiris which septiles my Isis and septiles my Moon; we also have isis/osiris double whammy by trine and sextile. He is the only person I actually wanted to have babies with and many years after I broke up with him he wrote me a letter saying he regretted not having a child with me. The day I met him I was pulled towards him like a magnet, a force stronger than me, the desire to merge was intense from the start, I kissed him immediately and we did not separate for a few hours, just kissed nonstop. Every time I see him even many years later that super strong pull is there, last time I saw him I couldn't believe I could still feel soo strongly that desire to merge like it was day one. "Priapus (h22): compulsive desire to merge physically and totally, great physical attraction and desire." http://www.leeloosesotericorner.com/blog/identifying-a-grea t-romantic-marital-relationship-with-astrology-checklist IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 06, 2018 11:17 PM
I was worried you wanted to merge completely and trust me , I’ve tried that. As a moon square saturner , I can safely say, no matter how much you love a guy or gal: ALWAYS boundaries. Keep them firm and strong, so that you know if this person leaves you , you won’t be crushed to the utter core. You need to be able to take the blow . Wow I do sound like a typical moon saturner but I have learned it the hard way. You don’t want to be in pieces. You gotta preserve yourself somehow... but that’s just looking T the situation from a glimpse, what you are saying is you basically love the person and you feel like you just are the same in a way that when they aren’t there, somethings missing. To me that sounds unhealthy but that could be your way of saying you just really like the person. If you really like the person and they complete you, it could be some venus aspects... if it’s intense and all consuming, maybe Pluto. If it’s expansive and uplifting, maybe Jupiter.. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 11:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: Wow I do sound like a typical moon saturner
Ironic you posted that at 11:17 which is my exe's birth date LOL. You have a point but I feel even heartbreak is destined and serves a purpose. There are days I have not felt this way but most days I feel I would do it again every lifetime. My hope is that I would handle the separation part better each lifetime that passes because of my growing understanding and faith that we are immortal. My experiences with him feels super natural and when we meet in the dream world although is periodically and stretched out it also has that super natural quality to it. Don't get me wrong I like moon square saturn, it does have this innate ability/gift to protect itself which is quite awesome but I would do it again, I would risk that level of heartbreak again, I did get through it and grew bc of it. ------------------------------------- I will add that the day we met Tr Sun conjunct Tr Priapus were conjunct his Osiris on Regulus which conjuncts his Isis which my Priapus conjuncts exact which trines his Priapus....so transit sun conjunct tr Priapus were activating both our Isis/Osiris double whammy and both of our Priapus like a domino effect. Add that my moon conjuncts and parallels his moon and quindeciles my own Priapus. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 11:43 AM
However, missing each other while away on a trip and been affectionate to one another I feel is standard relationship stuff lol. I am very warm and affectionate by nature so if I am in a relationship and we are away from each other bc I am on a trip ofcourse I will miss them and if I am in a relationship I am very affectionate period, its my nature, I gave my partner a huge hug yesterday at the supermarket while we were in line, I just felt like it, I looked into his eyes and wanted to give him a big hug. My partner and I always feel this thing in our hearts when either leaves the room initially, like an automatic "were are you going thing?" but naturally we are attached, 11 years together...he misses me when I am upstairs and he is downstairs. We do have a stellium in the 8th in composite. Now the desire to merge is another thing IME. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7597 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 07, 2018 12:51 PM
I think it's Priapus work too. SLQ, what Prispus or Lilith aspects do you have with him ? Hypathia, how did you experience the break up , did you get sick ? How long did it take you before you started dating again or have sex with another man ? IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3154 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 01:28 PM
I have Priapus at 28 deg Aqua and he has his at 4 deg Aqua. No aspects, except his Priapus opposite my Sun and conjunct my Uranus.His Lilith in Leo conjunct my Sun and my Lilith trine his Moon in Cap. The only thing I could think of is we have exact Venus trine Pluto in our composite. Idk what else. His Pluto does not square my natal Venus. It’s too loose. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen: I have Priapus at 28 deg Aqua and he has his at 4 deg Aqua. No aspects, except his Priapus opposite my Sun and conjunct my Uranus.His Lilith in Leo conjunct my Sun and my Lilith trine his Moon in Cap. The only thing I could think of is we have exact Venus trine Pluto in our composite. Idk what else. His Pluto does not square my natal Venus. It’s too loose.
Check both Priapus, H22 is Priapus and H21 is Lilith but the opposite point of Lilith H21 is also Priapus. His Priapus opposite your SUN is significant. The only other person that I felt a desire to merge with his Priapus conjuncts my Agapenor and trines my SUN forming a Grand Trine with my Alma conjunct Lust so Priapus aspect Sun could explain that desire to merge you have with him. His Priapus in Capricorn conjunct my AGAPENOR My Sun in Virgo My Alma conjunct Lust in Taurus It was a lovely grand trine. "I have Priapus at 28 deg Aqua and he has his at 4 deg Aqua." ^So they are 24 degrees apart! That would make it part of the 15th harmonics, when you divide 360 by 15 you get 24 degrees. I am confused bc I have read that quindeciles are part of the 24th harmonics and have also read that quindeciles in connection to the 15th harmonics. The 24th harmonics use 15 degree increments and is why the quindecile aspect comes from that series but the 15th harmonic is called quindecile bc of its connection to the number 15 but it has 24 degree increments. "The 15th harmonic indicates a facility and ease in expressing oneself creatively (Cochrane)" "24th Harmonic: The 5/24 aspect is a hybrid of the square and sextile aspect, the 7/24 aspect is a hybrid of the square and trine aspect, and the 11/24 aspect indicates an unrelenting headstrong determination, with disruption and upheaval. (Godefrey). The 24th harmonic indicates resources avail- able to the person. The person is motivated to develop these resources but not with the intensity of the hard aspects. The meaning of hte 24th harmonic aspects is strongly influenced by the numerator, and the 5/24 aspect is more subtle and creative than the 11/24 aspect which is intensely motivating. The 7/24 aspect is a bit constrained, introverted, and focused (Cochrane). The 11/24 aspect indicates a tendency towards being obsessive-compulsive (Ricki Reeves, Noel Tyl." http://www.astrosoftware.com/harmonicfirst32.pdf
So if the 15th harmonics manifests as ease in expressing oneself creatively and we apply it to your synastry with him then your Priapus been 24 degrees away from his Priapus may mean that there is an ease in expressing your desire to merge with each other. In a way I feel is similar to my Priapus trine Priapus with my ex, there is an ease in our ability to express our desire to merge with each other, it just flows and comes naturally. Perhaps with the trine is more pronounced.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 03:13 PM
hahaha my partner and I have Priapus biquintile Priapus and my Priapus sextiles his MOON LOL..I kept thinking Priapus must be active in our synastry.That explains what I talked about earlier, we do have this weird automatic reaction to separating that is instinctual..like when he lives the room or I live the room, we kind of have this strong automatic but initial reaction to it, like a 3 second separation anxiety lol. Priapus is a lot more involved though with my ex with Isis/Osiris mixed in there and them trining each other plus his Kaali conjuncts my Agapenor and trines my Sun. Then my sun quindeciles his Moon which conjuncts and parallels my moon and my moon quindeciles my Priapus which trines his Priapus which interacts with our Isis/Osiris double whammy LOL so is like this weird domino effect. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7597 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 07, 2018 03:38 PM
Hypa, Answer my question, woman..Btw, in my synastry my Priapus conjunct his Venus exact at 0 degree.....grrrr
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 07, 2018 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Hypa, Answer my question, woman..Btw, in my synastry my Priapus conjunct his Venus exact at 0 degree.....grrrr
I called it the break up of the century as an attempt to portray the level of emotional pain accurately LOL maybe my venus conjunct mars in Leo does not help in the over-dramatization department........ But you remember I mentioned we have moon conjunct and parallel moon with transit saturn and transit pluto forming a tsquare with our moons when we broke up. Add that tr Chiron was on my moon/pluto midpoint and squaring his Saturn. Tr Chiron activated my Moon/Chiron/Pluto golden Yod. Total Epic Disaster! hahahaha I went into deep depression for about 4 years, every cell in my body felt like death for a long time, I felt like the walking dead, like a zombie. When tr Pluto squared my Sun exact about 4 years later I met my husband and that was the first time I was able to get involved in a relationship but I did sleep around a little after we broke up, I was in that age were is appropriate to explore! (college years) and I was trying to forget him. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7597 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 07, 2018 07:32 PM
yes, TR Pluto on Moon along with Chiron is very harshdo you see him sometime, how does that feel? IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 08, 2018 11:21 AM
We live in different states (CO,FL) and last time I lived in FL I made sure not to see him, I felt in my gut that I shouldn't, I had a feeling that he was involved in a more serious relationship.I did see him about over a decade after our break up and like I said earlier Every time I see him even many years later that super strong pull is there, last time I saw him I couldn't believe I could still feel soo strongly that desire to merge, it felt time had not passed.
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StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted May 09, 2018 04:17 AM
so how would a double whammy priapus trine venue work out? If priapus is desire to merge, and it is in trine to venus, I would think that just expression of love and beauty would activate this and draw each partner closer to the other? In the composite, Lilith is conjunct the Sun/Venus/Mercury Stellium and Priapus is obviously opposing it. It trines Vesta. I am not sure how to interpret it in composite! IP: Logged |
EmGem Knowflake Posts: 2300 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted May 09, 2018 05:17 AM
@hyp and orange Its so hard to forget someone when the pull is unlike anything you’ve ever experienced. I completely understand the physical effects of such a separation. It’s excrutiating.. I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone. (Transiting Pluto opposing my Venus God damn). IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 09, 2018 02:42 PM
The last guy I had a fling with we did have that merge thing going although I didn't let it happen, the elements were there though but I didn't surrender to it, he did though.My Priapus sextiled his Sun conjunct Venus and His Priapus conjuncted my Alma/Lust and trined my Sun. I just met someone online born the day bf the birthdate of this last fling lol, we have these same aspects, their charts are identical except this guy has Leo rising and other guy Virgo rising and new guy his moon is at early degrees aries opposing my late degree sun in virgo. I feel Priapus gives that fear of loss bc you get attached quickly. My guess is priapus double whammy involving sun, moon, venus or mars or couple asteroids are powerful stuff. Whether it is priapus to each other's sun or his sun to your priapus and her moon to his priapus, same with venus and mars; Priapus to each other's venus or mars or his priapus to your venus and your priapus to his mars. IP: Logged |
StoneMoon Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Registered: Apr 2018
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posted May 09, 2018 05:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: The last guy I had a fling with we did have that merge thing going although I didn't let it happen, the elements were there though but I didn't surrender to it, he did though.My Priapus sextiled his Sun conjunct Venus and His Priapus conjuncted my Alma/Lust and trined my Sun. I just met someone online born the day bf the birthdate of this last fling lol, we have these same aspects, their charts are identical except this guy has Leo rising and other guy Virgo rising and new guy his moon is at early degrees aries opposing my late degree sun in virgo. I feel Priapus gives that fear of loss bc you get attached quickly. My guess is priapus double whammy involving sun, moon, venus or mars or couple asteroids are powerful stuff. Whether it is priapus to each other's sun or his sun to your priapus and her moon to his priapus, same with venus and mars; Priapus to each other's venus or mars or his priapus to your venus and your priapus to his mars.
this makes sense. both our individual priapuses oppose our suns, which to me means that this is a prominent theme for each of us to begin with
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 10, 2018 02:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: We live in different states (CO,FL) and last time I lived in FL I made sure not to see him, I felt in my gut that I shouldn't, I had a feeling that he was involved in a more serious relationship.I did see him about over a decade after our break up and like I said earlier Every time I see him even many years later that super strong pull is there, last time I saw him I couldn't believe I could still feel soo strongly that desire to merge, it felt time had not passed.
Sometimes the biggest act of love you can show someone is letting him or her go and keeping your distance.(Lilith representing LOL)
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 10, 2018 03:01 PM
Correction:There are two Priapus h22 and h13 is lilith but the opposite point of h13 is also Priapus. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7597 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 10, 2018 03:20 PM
How is Priapus conjunct Neptune ( chart ruler ) in synastry ? Seems like both planets seek merging , no? His Priapus conjuncts my Neptune at 0 degree, while my Priapus conjuncts his Venus at 0 degree IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 11463 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted May 10, 2018 03:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: How is Priapus conjunct Neptune ( chart ruler ) in synastry ? Seems like both planets seek merging , no? His Priapus conjuncts my Neptune at 0 degree, while my Priapus conjuncts his Venus at 0 degree
Sounds lovely, very romantic since it is involving neptune and venus....aweeeee. IP: Logged |
Stellia Knowflake Posts: 589 From: Yorks, UK Registered: Jan 2017
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posted May 11, 2018 06:51 AM
I have my priapus exactly conjunct someone's pholus (5145, 'exploding' or catalyst/spark for change). When we are together, we have an overwhelming desire to touch each other. It can be so extreme that if I'm stood or sat next to him, I can sometimes feel heat emanating from his skin.Our priapus' are tightly inconjunct. My h13 Lilith is conjunct his sun/moon midpoint (so other priapus is opposite), his h13 (and BML) is conjunct my SN, meaning his other priapus is very much in his Moon-Destinn-Union tight conjunction that conjuncts my NN. We spend a lot of time overriding urges. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7597 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted May 11, 2018 09:12 AM
I wonder about this Pholus asteroid and if it is really potent. And who explodes whom? In my synastry with my love I have my Pholus exactly conjunct his Venus. Actually I have my Pholus conjunct tightly my Priapus (on my ASC and North Node) and they conjunct his Venus at nearly 0 to 1 degree. However his Pholus conjuncts my Chiron. That's his Venus here on my stuff ---> IP: Logged |
Stellia Knowflake Posts: 589 From: Yorks, UK Registered: Jan 2017
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posted May 11, 2018 07:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: I wonder about this Pholus asteroid and if it is really potent. And who explodes whom? In my synastry with my love I have my Pholus exactly conjunct his Venus. Actually I have my Pholus conjunct tightly my Priapus (on my ASC and North Node) and they conjunct his Venus at nearly 0 to 1 degree. However his Pholus conjuncts my Chiron. That's his Venus here on my stuff --->
Woah that's pretty full-on! Ami Anne has written some strong pieces about pholus - especially conjunct chiron, as she has that herself. She describes pholus as 'exploding' what it touches, so it's like a massive combustible magnifying glass maybe. Pholus conjunct Venus would suggest to me overwhelming feelings of love, the pholus person would bring out the feelings of love in the Venus person. I don't know, say Venus person quite likes cats - the pholus would explode that into an urge to open a cat sanctuary. Pholus conjunct chiron would bring a lot of lessons around pain, healing, overcoming wounds... From what I've read, pholus was largely a benevolent centaur, so potentially less likely to create violent situations? Either way, this relationship is clearly significant, with the NN-venus, Asc/Dsc stuff too... Here's a link to Ami's blog about Pholus... http://mychristianpsychic.com/journal/asteroid-picks-pholus/ IP: Logged |