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Topic: 6th and 12th in Synastry
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Mhax
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posted August 28, 2008 10:35 AM
  
It seems like these houses dont mean so much in synastry, because in the books always talk about work or the unconsciousness, but I think that they have a lot to say in synastry as well, it seems like these two houses work a lot like the nodes, I think they have a lot do with the Kharma/Dharma relationship, for example a Venus of the person A falls in the 12th house of the person B, maybe with other aspects in the chart can reveal a former love in another life, or the same case but in the 6th house can reveal a meant relationship to work in this life with that person. The personal planets or some asteroids can reveal the same trend. I hope your comments IP: Logged |
winky_winky
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posted August 28, 2008 12:25 PM
Most interesting, since i have read a lot that both 6th and 12th house in synastry or comparative (composite) imply a lack of boundaries, but it rings quite true that it can involve karma...I had this house with an ex in composite and the synastry was full of saturn squares, which also imply a lot of karma it is said... Also, it looks as if both 6th and 12th house are teacher/student rship thus in an "equal" relationship it might not be that good on the long-term ( exceptions notwithstanding), but it might be ok if u have a karmic debt to settle. Hopefully someone will contribute with real life experiences... IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine
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posted August 28, 2008 12:59 PM
The 6th and 12th Houses are of prime concern because they are an axis of COOPERATION. You just try having a relationship with someone who's Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto makes a stressful aspect to the ruler of your 6th house - just try it. I guarantee this person will drive you nuts.The 12th House is secrets, where you like to isolate and your critical health. It's the same scenario, this person may feel intrusive to you if they stress your 12th House ruler and the phrase "you make me sick!" could feel literal. Not that someone else can make you sick - well, I take that back. It happens all the time. Or this person can help you to hone your cooperation skills, a lot of people do need that. Geocosmic Valentine ------------------
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winky_winky
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posted August 28, 2008 01:38 PM
Most interesting, Valentine Never saw it that way, likewise then the opposite would be you would really like this person? I am referring to the 1st part of your post... This Axis has always fascinated me, because, especially the 12th house, is soooo subtle in my experience...
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amowls
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posted August 28, 2008 02:04 PM
I've only ever experienced the 6/12th dynamic in the Composite, and it was pretty awful.IP: Logged |
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posted August 29, 2008 04:31 AM
Well 6th house is the mundane world (chores, bills, housework, service) and rules physical health. 12th house rules the spiritual and I guess the higher plane as well as isolation. It rules mental health I think as well.I tend to find that people who have planets in my 12th (except say something like jup or venus) aren't really popular with me. I know a few people who have put their moons in my 12th and I feel that they are trustworthy (and I feel disturbed too). As for 6th, planets that fall in someone else's 6th, the planet person will "serve" them in some way and maybe might get manipulated given a mean partner. IP: Logged |
winky_winky
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posted August 31, 2008 05:22 AM
amowls,would you like to ellaborate more on your experience with the 6th in composite? I have had this also and find it quite a difficult placement, wonder what snowflakes´ take on this is... Winks, Marie IP: Logged |
bvanzy
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posted August 31, 2008 06:02 AM
Good question Mhax.Geocosmic Valentine - I'm going to be looking out for this 12th house ruler and 6th house ruler guideline in future. Very interesting. Would you say someone's Saturn opposing your 6th or 12th house ruler would be better or worse than someone dropping lots of planets or points in your 6th and/or 12th house? I guess I'm asking for your opinion on the differences between these two types of astrological interaction. 23 - so the planet person serves the house person. And if it's mutual planets in each others 6th houses, it balances out? Or will the spirit of disparity manifest somehow? Let me give an example: Person A's Venus is in Person B's 6th house and Person B's Venus is in Person A's 6th house. Would this just completely take out the service idea because they would be in a mutual situation, or would the relationship just become a romantic burden to both of them sort of thing? I'm talking generally. IP: Logged |
amowls
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posted August 31, 2008 10:53 AM
Winky: In my experience, the 6th/12th axis creates unrequited love, or at least a relationship where one person loves the other one more.In Synastry this isn't necessarily the case, however. I'd look at the Composite. IP: Logged |
winky_winky
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posted August 31, 2008 11:29 AM
Extremely interesting insights knowflakeswill muse some and then post Must look at my collection of composites IP: Logged |
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posted September 02, 2008 04:29 AM
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23 - so the planet person serves the house person. And if it's mutual planets in each others 6th houses, it balances out? Or will the spirit of disparity manifest somehow? Let me give an example:Person A's Venus is in Person B's 6th house and Person B's Venus is in Person A's 6th house.
Well it's hard to say. The planet person will evoke the house person to deal with 6th house issues - maybe talk about the mundane etc but the house person is not an energy. The energy is the planet (person) and that planet will be used for 6th house issues. As for the second example, there might be balance achieved, depends what sign venus falls in, aspects etc. I suppose also it'd act something like a "double whammy" in that there will an intensification of 6th house issues. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted September 02, 2008 07:46 PM
Speaking of double whammy Venus in 6th, it brought to mind the synastry I had with my Scorpio ex, which after awhile the relationship felt like a strange sort of duty or obligation attached to it. And it apparently it came from both ends. I personally find it to be a difficult and ugly placement for 'Venus'...  ------------------
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ChildofVenus
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posted May 26, 2018 06:24 AM
My Neptune is in a persons 6th house. I read that this placement could be an indication of the Neptune person taking care of the house person.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 26, 2018 10:46 AM
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Yanmorg
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posted May 26, 2018 02:08 PM
I believe both of these houses are underrated in composite and synastry charts! They are oh so very important. How could anyone function without the day-to-day happenings? This is how you keep relationships strong when other factors take a backseat. A routine and TEAM goes a lon way. The 12H is needed too. I believe this is real intimacy. If you can get into someone’s ‘12H zone’ , you officially have seen their soul. Natally, my boyfriend has Venus in the 6H ruled by Taurus.
Venus rules his 7H also. His ASC in Scorpio.
Pluto rules his 12H (intercepted).
I have Venus in the 6H ruled by Libra.
Aries rules my 12H.
Mars is on the 7H cusp conjunct Pluto in the 6H.
I have a Scorpio stellium in the 6H.
Synastry-wise,
His Venus is in my 12H.
My Sun, Mercury, Venus is in his 12H.
In our composite,
Venus is in the 6H. Saturn rules our 12H conjunct ASC in Aquarius.
Uranus/ Neptune possibly might be in the 12H or 11H.
We also have mars square Uranus and Neptune in our composite so a strong 6H is needed when things get chaotic. Relationships need a strong 6H if other factors show a nonconventional way of doing things. There has to be SOME stability or those relationships would not thrive and survive. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 01, 2018 05:18 PM
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Kannon McAfee
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posted June 01, 2018 07:37 PM
My wife's Asc is 18° Scorpio, which means my Sun and Saturn fall in her 6th house. I have been very supportive of her health with my knowledge and herbal medicines.There are no 'good' or 'bad' houses or house overlays. It IS all in how you use them. ------------------
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StoneMoon
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posted June 01, 2018 07:43 PM
I think too you look at the people. For someone who is heavily Virgo, 6th house connections make sense. Pisces and 12th house too. Also, look at balancers. Pluto can help balance Neptune, so sometimes someone who is heavily Plutonic could benefit from 12th house action. Someone who is Neptunian could also benefit from 6th house to keep them focused and organized. As someone who is heavily Virgo, I often find my planets in someone's 6th house. I think this makes sense because this is natural to me to want to support someone I care about in these very naturally Virgo ways. It's a comfort zone.
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Randall
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posted June 08, 2018 05:47 PM
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Randall
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posted June 20, 2018 09:23 PM
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