posted June 01, 2018 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
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posted June 02, 2018 08:55 AM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
lol what's stopping you

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posted June 06, 2018 02:36 AM            

look also at house overlays in 4th. saturn in 4th in synastry may indicate a feeling of restriction, too many rules.. that let the house person not to relax. uranus-pluto do not help either.

neptune in 6th. the house person may find sloppy the neptune person in day to day situations. does not help

you want jupiter in 6 or 4 for instnace. moon jupiter, moon moon trine, sextile. conjunction gets too intense. moon-venus

posted June 06, 2018 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
look at the moon. when it is about living together, harmonic aspects between the moon sugest that you have habits which not clash.

look also at house overlays in 4th. saturn in 4th in synastry may indicate a feeling of restriction, too many rules.. that let the house person not to relax. uranus-pluto do not help either.

neptune in 6th. the house person may find sloppy the neptune person in day to day situations. does not help

you want jupiter in 6 or 4 for instnace. moon jupiter, moon moon trine, sextile. conjunction gets too intense. moon-venus

avoid moon-uranus, moon saturn, moon pluto.

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posted June 06, 2018 02:55 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
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moon-saturn: saturn is going to be critical of moon habits (no matter if trine or sextile) it may be softer than the square, but saturn moon is not a good combo no matter the aspect.

moon-uranus: moon person feel alwas nervous around the uranus. too much electricity. you want that? go for it. When I am at home, i want to relax. Uranus will add excitement, but relax? forget it!

moon-pluto: moon person maybe, maybe as if sex happen can release energy and it is good for sexual relationship as both planets are instintive. but if what you want is a roomate and you are not the intense type, the pluto may feel heavy at home.

posted June 06, 2018 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
moon-saturn: saturn is going to be critical of moon habits (no matter if trine or sextile) it may be softer than the square, but saturn moon is not a good combo no matter the aspect.

moon-uranus: moon person feel alwas nervous around the uranus. too much electricity. you want that? go for it. When I am at home, i want to relax. Uranus will add excitement, but relax? forget it!

moon-pluto: moon person maybe, maybe as if sex happen can release energy and it is good for sexual relationship as both planets are instintive. but if what you want is a roomate and you are not the intense type, the pluto may feel heavy at home.

but that depend on personal taste. personally, i prefer to share my home with people who bring peace, not critics or intense or thrilling...

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posted June 07, 2018 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nordicsoul:
[b] moon-saturn: saturn is going to be critical of moon habits (no matter if trine or sextile) it may be softer than the square, but saturn moon is not a good combo no matter the aspect.

moon-uranus: moon person feel alwas nervous around the uranus. too much electricity. you want that? go for it. When I am at home, i want to relax. Uranus will add excitement, but relax? forget it!

moon-pluto: moon person maybe, maybe as if sex happen can release energy and it is good for sexual relationship as both planets are instintive. but if what you want is a roomate and you are not the intense type, the pluto may feel heavy at home.

but that depend on personal taste. personally, i prefer to share my home with people who bring peace, not critics or intense or thrilling...

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if you look in internet and what most people said, yes. but Liz Greene has a different approach. she pair the planets according to the planet archetype and according to that certain planets (no matter the aspect) clash. moon saturn is one of them. you can have the square between moon-jupiter or moon neptune in synastry. it is going to feel well tolerated in your daily habits no matter if it is opposition or square.. that is!

you mention that you are saturn in a relatioship with someone. has you ask the person how they feel? if you are the moon person i would feel as you are always censoring yourself because there is someone there demanding that you mature, and annoyed by your emotions. you get the cold shoulder. it does not matter if its trine. it is the nature of saturn. saturn is not going to become jupiter because it is in trine.

posted June 07, 2018 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by kewf1988:
Sun/Moon compatibility is very underrated. My best relationships have always been with earth Suns and fire Moons, despite my Sun and Moon are in air and water. The vertex, angles, and nodes are also major factors in determining compatibility, as aspects, especially conjunctions, to them are strong indicators of karmic relationships that need to play out. Check out the name and love asteroids as well.

Determining compatibility from Sun and Moon alone isn't enough.

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posted June 07, 2018 03:46 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
if you look in internet and what most people said, yes. but Liz Greene has a different approach. she pair the planets according to the planet archetype and according to that certain planets (no matter the aspect) clash. moon saturn is one of them. you can have the square between moon-jupiter or moon neptune in synastry. it is going to feel well tolerated in your daily habits no matter if it is opposition or square.. that is!

you mention that you are saturn in a relatioship with someone. has you ask the person how they feel? if you are the moon person i would feel as you are always censoring yourself because there is someone there demanding that you mature, and annoyed by your emotions. you get the cold shoulder. it does not matter if its trine. it is the nature of saturn. saturn is not going to become jupiter because it is in trine.

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posted June 07, 2018 06:12 AM            

His Saturn trine my Moon: but also I have Saturn trine Moon natally, so it feels natural for me and I can tolerate it, unless it is a hard aspect. I may not want the hard aspect of Saturn to my Moon (in a relationship, if it's in a friendship I may not take it seriously), too heavy, as even the soft aspect from Saturn to Moon, the Saturn can be critical and cold to the Moon sometimes and it irritates me slowly especially if the Saturn thinks he knows better than me and he acts cold when he thinks I make reckless decision according to what he thinks right by abandoning my own opinion (my natal soft aspect has been hard on myself so I don't need another person to be critical of myself in a hard way like the hard aspect, especially in a relationship). Saturn person may not see this.

But I think it comes from his Saturn conjunct my Mars, as he tends to critic and analyzing every move I make or every decision I make. It's a wide conjunction aspect though, I may run if it is too close orbs.

His Uranus trine my Moon: but I also have Uranus trine Moon natally, so this is very natural for me. I don't see any problem coming from this aspect, I don't feel nervous around him, he feels comfortable and confident around me. But I can definitely feel his anxiety as he has Uranus opposite Sun and those Gemini energy he has. He hates crowd places due to his anxiety, but with me there, he feels easier.

My Pluto sextile his Moon: he has Pluto sextile Moon natally. I'm not quiet sure about this aspect plays out in our relationship. I don't feel like I try to control him, it's him who tries to control me. We may have intense moment, but not to the point I feel intense obsessing feeling, I don't know how he feels as he isn't the type who likes to tell you his feelings. He also has Moon in Cap.

Natally I have, Sun/Pluto and Mercury/Pluto hard aspect, and Venus/Pluto soft aspect. If I should choose which one I prefer touching the Pluto, it's an easier aspect. I know how those Pluto hard aspect. Too intense and too heavy.

Natally my husband has, Moon/Pluto, Mercury/Pluto, Mars/Pluto soft aspect.

posted June 07, 2018 08:32 AM            

every planet has a positive side. being criticized, feeling unsupported emotionally by someone makes us grow up. it does not mean we like to find the cold shoulder when we needed. but the saturn-moon aspect teach us to be emotionally independent. I have the sextile natally and I always encountered before i became more mature emotionally saturnian denying me from teh emotional support. there is nothing intrinsically BAD in any planet pairing. you ask about living together if it was ok... i gave my opinion and the aspect i think makes living together unconfortable. you want that to grow up, it is your choice. what you cannot expect is people to tell you "yes, saturn will make you feel very supportive when you forget to flush the toilet" you wont hear that, not from me...

heart treasure has related her own experience. probably what you want to do is to jump and move together. live the experience and then in retrospect bring the synastry here and discuss. the other option is to bring the synastry here and see how would you get along...

your original questions was about gemini and taurus sun. the answer is it depends the aspects the moon makes to each other. in my opinion moon is the most important planet to consider when living together. mercury too for conflict resolution.. venus is you plan to decorate the home together... oh god...

it is also important house 6 and 4... which planets are put there by the other person...

posted June 07, 2018 02:26 PM            

so as saturn person, you do not find the moon person childisch, irresponsible, as you wish this person behave more maturely? you find their emotional needs consistent with your expectations? you find this person not needy or emotinally dependent. or a person who needs other to substain them for survival (feeding moon) a person that cannot survive on his own either emotional or literally?

if you dont find these flaws in that person, then... your saturn may be playing the "helper" role to keep that person in his radar. saturn feels hungry of the planet person. he wants that, so he limit and criticize. when he help, there is an agenda, to be needed. there is nothing generous about saturn.

here an extract that I find short and good description of the archetype.
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Saturn is the next planetary archetype to discuss, and because it is an especially complex archetype I will describe it in more detail. Saturn represents the principle of limit, structure, and necessity. It governs the material world, time, tradition, the past, aging, death, and the endings of things. The Saturn archetype is associated with the Greek mythic figure of Kronos, the stern father of the gods, the Roman Saturn. Called the Great Malefic in traditional astrology, it is associated with such archetypal figures as Fate, Father Time, Death, and the Grim Reaper. In Jungian and archetypal psychology, Saturn is often called the senex.

Saturn represents the hard structure of things, the reality principle, the bottom line. It is in many ways the opposite of Jupiter in nature: where Jupiter expands and grants success, Saturn contracts and inhibits; where Jupiter is liberal and magnanimous, Saturn is conservative and strict; where Jupiter uplifts, Saturn oppresses. Indeed, Saturn can well seem to be a one-sidedly negative planet in the astrological pantheon, though in fact the situation is much more complicated. Saturn opposes and limits, but in doing so, it strengthens, grounds, forges, gives our soul substance and gravitas, makes us real.

In an important sense, Saturn is the ruler of the birth chart itself, for Saturn is Time, Chronos, as well as that which fixes a moment in time, creates through birth a separate embodiment of reality, and then sustains and works out through time all the meaning and challenges of that archetypal moment.

Saturn is the archetype that rules the structure of our lives. It is the matrix of things, that which provides both limit and structure, thereby permitting the possibility of manifestation itself. In limiting and bringing closure, Saturn defines. Saturn is also the principle of judgment, governing the consequences of our actions, confronting us with our past. Esoterically, it is considered to be the planet of karma, the carrier of karma from past lifetimes, the consequences of which we now have to encounter in the present life. It might be seen as the cross we bear, for it concerns our trials and sufferings which may often seem inexplicable and undeserved. In theological terms Saturn bears resemblance to some (though not all) aspects of the Hebrew Yahweh: the strict patriarchal ruler and law-giver of creation, the God of justice and retribution who condemns humankind to a life of separation, labor, suffering, disease, pain in childbirth, and death. Saturn is lord of the realm of finitude, imperfection, and mortality. At a deep level, Saturn can be seen as the archetypal birth labor of existence: that which constricts and limits, rigidifies, alienates, cuts one off from the primal union, makes us die to the womb--but also that which incarnates us, gives us embodiment, form, firmness, substance, material reality.

Saturn is therefore often symbolized as a skeleton, both as a symbol of death, the ultimate consuming power of time, but also as the skeletal structure and foundation of things, without which there would be no form, no stability, no supporting frame of strength and solidity which has slowly evolved through time and experience.

Saturn makes us stand alone and know solitude; it separates us from others--from the womb when we are born, from our childhood family as we grow older, and from everyone as we face our death. Yet it is also Saturn that makes us who we are, that disciplines and orders our existence until it has sculpted our essence. It is the superego inside us--our inner judge and conscience, that complex reflection of internalized social convention, religious tradition, and moral law. Saturn governs the consequences of error, guilt, pessimism, inferiority, depression, deprivation; yet it also gives us the capacity for rigor, order, concentration, endurance, seriousness, fidelity, responsibility, maturity. To continue the comparison with Jupiter, where Jupiter may be inflated, exaggerated, or overoptimistic, Saturn is judicious, grounded, and pragmatic. Saturn works slowly and gradually, painstakingly, often painfully, but effectively, with enduring results.

Saturn rules our work in the world, that which we do to make ends meet, the labor of life. It governs "reality" as we usually think of that term--that which makes concrete demands on us, which confronts us with material limitations, which brings us down to earth. It makes us know defeat, limiting our aspirations and negating our dreams. Saturn resists and oppresses us, and yet also defines us, brings us experience and wisdom, makes us take responsibility for ourselves so that we become our own master. As Nietzsche said, "He who cannot obey himself will be commanded." It is Saturn alone that can give us that special sense of inner authority which can only be purchased through time and experience.

The position of Saturn in one’s birth chart is thus a matter of great importance, and the major aspects it makes to other planets can tell us much about one’s principal concerns in life. Transits involving Saturn regularly mark periods of major developmental importance, often bringing times of personal trial, but also of deep maturation and the establishment of significant life structures involving one's career, important relationships, or major karmic responsibilities. Perhaps the main thing to remember--or to adopt as a working hypothesis--is that Saturn indicates that which we have chosen to work with and through in this life in order to achieve a higher level of spiritual awareness. The sufferings and frustrations it may bring can perhaps best be seen as serving a purpose which will in the long run be recognized as worth all the hard labor of life. Again, Saturn is that part of the archetypal birth process which oppresses and alienates, and yet slowly molds and structures, and, in the end, ushers us into a new level of existence. It is the guardian of the threshold.

posted June 07, 2018 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
nordicsoul - so are you saying the Saturn person doesn't support the Moon person? I don't think that's true as the Saturn person I've been supportive of the Moon and I mean emotionally as well.

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posted June 07, 2018 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
it would be interesting to hear the side of the the story from the moon person...

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posted June 07, 2018 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I have moon/saturn, moon/uranus, moon/pluto synastry with my husband.

His Saturn trine my Moon: but also I have Saturn trine Moon natally, so it feels natural for me and I can tolerate it, unless it is a hard aspect. I may not want the hard aspect of Saturn to my Moon (in a relationship, if it's in a friendship I may not take it seriously), too heavy, as even the soft aspect from Saturn to Moon, the Saturn can be critical and cold to the Moon sometimes and it irritates me slowly especially if the Saturn thinks he knows better than me and he acts cold when he thinks I make reckless decision according to what he thinks right by abandoning my own opinion (my natal soft aspect has been hard on myself so I don't need another person to be critical of myself in a hard way like the hard aspect, especially in a relationship). Saturn person may not see this.

But I think it comes from his Saturn conjunct my Mars, as he tends to critic and analyzing every move I make or every decision I make. It's a wide conjunction aspect though, I may run if it is too close orbs.

His Uranus trine my Moon: but I also have Uranus trine Moon natally, so this is very natural for me. I don't see any problem coming from this aspect, I don't feel nervous around him, he feels comfortable and confident around me. But I can definitely feel his anxiety as he has Uranus opposite Sun and those Gemini energy he has. He hates crowd places due to his anxiety, but with me there, he feels easier.

My Pluto sextile his Moon: he has Pluto sextile Moon natally. I'm not quiet sure about this aspect plays out in our relationship. I don't feel like I try to control him, it's him who tries to control me. We may have intense moment, but not to the point I feel intense obsessing feeling, I don't know how he feels as he isn't the type who likes to tell you his feelings. He also has Moon in Cap.

Natally I have, Sun/Pluto and Mercury/Pluto hard aspect, and Venus/Pluto soft aspect. If I should choose which one I prefer touching the Pluto, it's an easier aspect. I know how those Pluto hard aspect. Too intense and too heavy.

Natally my husband has, Moon/Pluto, Mercury/Pluto, Mars/Pluto soft aspect.

My Jupiter square his Mars: wide aspect, but also he has Mars square Jupiter natally. I see him as a risk taker who literally jumps without thinking far. In a sinastry, I don't think the Jupiter is the bad influence, Jupiter is a good/positive planet in my personal opinion. Joy is found in a Jupiter aspect. But it depends on your personal chart though. For me, if I should choose which one I prefer, I would go to Jupiter than Saturn/Pluto. If you see the whole, of course I like the balance of Jupiter/Saturn aspect in a sinastry, it's like "Play hard and Work hard". Unfortunately I know the dark side of the Pluto.

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posted June 08, 2018 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
being used to the energy of a planet does not mean you own the planet. when someone owns a planet it does not bother you when you feel it others. at the end of the day, the conflict we bring are reflextion of our own conflicts. if you own your saturn, your mother and father would not bother you more. believe me. there will be a time when you learn the lesson of a planet, you stop attracting people who bring these issues to your awareness. i hope you understand what I am saying. for some reason i believe that you want me to tell you that you can live with saturn... if you believe so, go for it. I told my opinion. just take it as it is. an opinion. you can ignore my opinion, but please do not try to convince me to change my views. if you read the excerpt of saturn i send you, you can see the commitment and responsibility that saturn involved. i have had that with people whose saturn aspect my moon. a sense a responsibility toward me, but the emotional wall is also there. and if you live with that person, most of your habits will be annoying for that person. that would help you to mature. because you must have to learn to live with that, to search for your own aceptance and nurture. at the end of the day, that is the lesson of saturn-moon in synastry: to teach to nurture yourself and count with nobody. so... that is! I am out of here.

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