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capricorncheriscty
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posted June 05, 2018 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever experienced a synastry relationship where only a planet/planets conjunct the South Node and nothing really touches the North Node? Were those bad experiences?

More so than bad or horrible, did you seem very comfortable around that person but, at the same time, you felt like they were kind of holding you back from something greater in your life that you just couldn't pinpoint exactly? Like there would be something greater waiting for you in life if they weren't with you/you weren't with them, but, at the SAME time, they seem to keep you content from wanting to push too hard towards that "something greater"? You're just happy being where you are?


I have always heard contacts to the South Node and nothing else in synastry are very detrimental and slowly degrading to the Node person, as they feel their energy slowly but surely gets drained by the activity of the planet person constantly (but unknowingly) tugging them back to behavior they have already been dragged through the mud for (South Node).

I don't think I have ever heard of South Node conjunctions in synastry working out unless there was also something conjuncting (or aspecting) the North Node very very tightly. By itself, the synastry South Node conjunction seems to be worrisome.

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posted June 06, 2018 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Stellia
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posted June 06, 2018 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It some ways it depends on the planet in the conjunction, and in some ways it depends on your outlook on relationships.

Not all relationships are meant to last. Some are meant to come and teach us a lesson (good or bad!) and others are more long-lasting.

I'd say South Node relationships are about closing off past chapters, some would say past chapters and healing from childhood, others say it's about closing off past life karma.

That's why they may not last - once the lesson has been learned, the SN person will likely get bored and ready to move on.

This doesn't have to be a bad thing. We just see it as bad because we see as relationships being all or nothing, and in the moment, it's hard to realise that there's something better round the corner that we can't yet see.

And yep, sometimes the SN connection can remain long-lasting. That's at the cost of your soul development. BUT sometimes souls need an easy ride and we can choose how much we push. That's the beauty of free will.

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posted June 06, 2018 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stellia:
It some ways it depends on the planet in the conjunction, and in some ways it depends on your outlook on relationships.

Not all relationships are meant to last. Some are meant to come and teach us a lesson (good or bad!) and others are more long-lasting.

I'd say South Node relationships are about closing off past chapters, some would say past chapters and healing from childhood, others say it's about closing off past life karma.

That's why they may not last - once the lesson has been learned, the SN person will likely get bored and ready to move on.

This doesn't have to be a bad thing. We just see it as bad because we see as relationships being all or nothing, and in the moment, it's hard to realise that there's something better round the corner that we can't yet see.

And yep, sometimes the SN connection can remain long-lasting. That's at the cost of your soul development. BUT sometimes souls need an easy ride and we can choose how much we push. That's the beauty of free will.


But isn't it only longlasting if there is also something conjunct or aspecting the North Node? I know that a conjunction to the SN is an opposition to the NN but it seems that is not enough. From what I've read from people's personal experiences on here and other forums is that the SN conjunction only lasts for decades if there is something also pushing the NN forward nicely along with it. Very rarely has the SN conj alone done it and it seems that it causes a lot of pain and trouble if there is nothing else going on the NN other than the opposition since the NN is naturally not used to "opposing" forces since it typically moves FORWARD.

In your personal experience, do you think that this is true? Have you ever had this happen to you?

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posted June 08, 2018 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of it would depend on the planet involved. Are you thinking of something specific?

I haven't personally experienced a SN-only relationship, in fact I've rarely had any conjunctions to the nodes at all. If I saw a chart with a potential mate I'd be wary of a SN only involvement, and also about certain planets conjunct the NN.

In SN terms, I am currently in a close friendship with someone whose BML is conjunct my SN, but whose moon is conjunct my NN; and conversely, my Neptune is widely conjunct his SN (5deg - too wide in my opinion), but my venus is tightly conjunct his NN.

At the start of our relationship, there was a lot of NN involvement; but it's gone a bit more SN recently as we're both in periods of change or potential change and perhaps relying more on comfort zones. There's no doubt in my mind that we have a future NN potential, the question will be if we both choose to follow that path in this lifetime - we both have squares to our natal nodes, so we have stuff to work through.

Because of free will it's possible that an SN only couple might stick this out long term, perhaps if they feel obligated to a marriage or whatever. But it will likely be an unfulfilled experience in the long run.

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posted June 08, 2018 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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two-headed-she
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posted June 09, 2018 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for two-headed-she     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find South node connections express themselves as incredibly large and deep feeling in and of themselves. The aspect itself, or aspects, can be very powerful and instinctual. When there is an aspect of relevance to a South node in a relationship, I have often explained them this way in readings for clients: You have live your entire life in a town where you are home, but your vision and your calling asks you to leave and travel to another place, it's a soul's calling for you. On your journey, you meet someone traveling the other direction. In your time with them, you find a deep connection, as though you've known each other in a previous life or that you have a soul connection. However, the more time you spend together, the more that feelign diminishes...the more you are aware that you aren't traveling together, that if you favor the depth fo the connection, you will have to give up your soul's calling. You feel conflict, and seeing each other, you have to process a loss. You learn you must say goodbye...and in the parting you realize you have been given a gift. It's as though an exchange has taken place, a piece of yourself has been returned to you. The South node connection is one of return, diminishment, remembering, and letting go. Great healing can occur. Also, an injury is possible if you or the other doesn't want to let go. At any rate, you and this person have this meeting which shows you where you are headed by example throught the other, you are each from the place you are headed...only the old and the new are reversed, and can't be flipped for you to stay with each other. The gift of letting go is great.

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posted June 09, 2018 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two-headed-she - are those your words? Such a beautiful description. I love how you explained that

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posted June 09, 2018 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the orb maximum we can use for Sun conjunct SN in synastry?

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Stellia
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posted June 10, 2018 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually keep Node aspects a bit tighter than planets as technically the Nodes are a hypothetical point and don't have as much energy to give out.

So I tend to go up to 4degrees for a conjunction, up to 5, maybe 6 for a luminary.

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posted June 11, 2018 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for two-headed-she     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep! Thank you for the nice compliment : )

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posted June 18, 2018 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stellia:
I usually keep Node aspects a bit tighter than planets as technically the Nodes are a hypothetical point and don't have as much energy to give out.

So I tend to go up to 4degrees for a conjunction, up to 5, maybe 6 for a luminary.


Thank you!

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